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[Mr. Troy]

Hello to all. This is my first post and i love this site and respect everyone's opinion. I am 24 years old, i have been working out for 9 years. currently i am 6'1" 193lbs. I have some stubborn belly fat that i am having a hell of a time getting rid of. I also have some little love handles.

What would you reccommend as a good first cycle. I want as little bloat as possible. My overall goals are to eventually be around 185 - 190 but ver very lean.

I was thinking since it is my first cycle to just use test.

i am unsure as to how much test i should take and how often i should take it. i assume a 10 week cycle should help me get stronger and bigger muscles obviously and with a strict diet help me cut up nicely.

Thank you all very much for your help.

Troy

 

[Lupercal CATS]

Hello to all. This is my first post and i love this site and respect everyone's opinion. I am 24 years old, i have been working out for 9 years. currently i am 6'1" 193lbs. I have some stubborn belly fat that i am having a hell of a time getting rid of. I also have some little love handles.

What would you reccommend as a good first cycle. I want as little bloat as possible. My overall goals are to eventually be around 185 - 190 but ver very lean.

I was thinking since it is my first cycle to just use test.

i am unsure as to how much test i should take and how often i should take it. i assume a 10 week cycle should help me get stronger and bigger muscles obviously and with a strict diet help me cut up nicely.

Thank you all very much for your help.

Troy

Wow a good first post. Karma for not being a dumb shit.

I would recommend 500mg a week test. You could add different other comounds depending on if you want to bulk or cut. For example:
Bulker:
500mg test 1-10 weeks
30mg dbol ED 1-4

Cutter:
500mg test 1-10 weeks
winny 50mg ED 6-10

Not to insult your intelligence but FYI ED means everyday, that took me some time to figure out.

Just remember that diet and training and sleep are key.

 

[Beachbum1546]

Test only try something like:

500mgs/week of test enanthate

or

500mgs/week of test cypionate (spelling?)

the enan cycle wouldn't kick in till about week 4 but with the multi-estered cyp that would kick in much faster so it might be the way to go with no other jumpstart. I'm not the most knowledgable person about this so don't take my word as law.

 

[Lupercal CATS]

Test only try something like:

500mgs/week of test enanthate

or

500mgs/week of test cypionate (spelling?)

the enan cycle wouldn't kick in till about week 4 but with the multi-estered cyp that would kick in much faster so it might be the way to go with no other jumpstart. I'm not the most knowledgable person about this so don't take my word as law.

Cypionate isn't multiestered. It is nearly identically to enanthate.

Edit: How did I lose 2000 karma?

 

[Mr. Troy]

thanks guys. that sure was quick. i have dabled in prohormones and seen decent results from that. but im tired of playing in the minors (in terms of supplements) and im ready to play with the big dogs. i of course would take this very seriously and diet as close to perfect as possible and try and get 8 hours but with grad school and working full time, that might be a bit hard. I am somewhat happy with my size. if i could get a little bit bigger that would be great but my main goal is to get crazy cut. i know diet is the most important factor in cutting. but i want to use the test as a means to help me get a little more muscle but at the very least maintain what i have.

what size needles do i need to get. and were you saying i need to inject everyday!!! yikes!

 

[Lupercal CATS]

thanks guys. that sure was quick. i have dabled in prohormones and seen decent results from that. but im tired of playing in the minors (in terms of supplements) and im ready to play with the big dogs. i of course would take this very seriously and diet as close to perfect as possible and try and get 8 hours but with grad school and working full time, that might be a bit hard. I am somewhat happy with my size. if i could get a little bit bigger that would be great but my main goal is to get crazy cut. i know diet is the most important factor in cutting. but i want to use the test as a means to help me get a little more muscle but at the very least maintain what i have.

what size needles do i need to get. and were you saying i need to inject everyday!!! yikes!

Nope, not injecting everyday. The dianabol and winstrol can both be taken orally. You could inject them but don't bother. The test you will inject 2 times a week (m and thurs). I prefer quad injections. Make sure you read up on www.spotinjections.com and to hit the OUTER quad. You may prefer glute injections, I can't help you there.

Get your needles from www.getpinz.com Get about 50 20 gauge Terumos with the 3cc syringe attached, and also some 25guage Terumo needles. Using a 20 gauge needle makes the test ALOT easier to draw up. Then switch to the 25 and inject.

If you want to cut the test will help you maintain your muscle mass while you lose the fat. The winstrol will help to add a little strength and make you look harder.

 

[Mr. Troy]

so i should inject test twice a week for 10 weeks (how much per injection ?) and then towards the end of that cycle i should take winstrol orally ? how many weeks should i take winstrol for ?

and i really do appreciate everyone taking the time to help me.

 

[Bruce]

250 per injection, so if you have test 250 do a cc monday and thursday. do winstrol the last 5 weeks of the cycle, on my first cycle i finished with winny weeks 9-13. i would prefer var now because winny kills your joints but the results are still great. yea get winny pills no need to inject it, if you can afford var i would go towards that for you. especially since var will curb your appetite a bit and allow you to add muscle without a bulk of calories.

 

[Mr. Troy]

ok great suggestions guys. with just test and then either winny or var will i get much bloat

i am REALLY trying to stay away from any bloat
and you cant really get gyno with just test can you ?

 

[Lupercal CATS]

250 per injection, so if you have test 250 do a cc monday and thursday. do winstrol the last 5 weeks of the cycle, on my first cycle i finished with winny weeks 9-13. i would prefer var now because winny kills your joints but the results are still great. yea get winny pills no need to inject it, if you can afford var i would go towards that for you. especially since var will curb your appetite a bit and allow you to add muscle without a bulk of calories.

Bump.