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First time user of insulin ??? what kind of gains to expect.

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I'm muscleups main cheerleader as of now LoL..since we both have the same cycles(some differences) coming up and are both first time users of slin. Muscle have you thought about running an oral when you start your slin? I hear that it makes it more effective as to why..i'm still researching that. Also have you ran test this long before, i'm curious as to what kinds of gains would materialize from using for 20 weeks? Anybody with some insight into using test for long periods?
 
Dr.Equinstein said:
I'm muscleups main cheerleader as of now LoL..since we both have the same cycles(some differences) coming up and are both first time users of slin. Muscle have you thought about running an oral when you start your slin? I hear that it makes it more effective as to why..i'm still researching that. Also have you ran test this long before, i'm curious as to what kinds of gains would materialize from using for 20 weeks? Anybody with some insight into using test for long periods?
I find using lower dosages for longer periods leads to a more stablizing bodyweight...I got this from Dave Palumbo...As far as running an oral...I think that I will shy away from that as I tend to have a strong estrogen conversion with d-bol or anadrol...I will run HCG the last 2 weeks of my cycle to get my balls working again followed by the normal blomid therapy....Keep me posted on your cycle:)
 
orals and slin

the only thing that comes to mind about using an oral like dbol with slin would be the production of IGF.

I read a study a while back comparing winny usage oral vs. injectable. With inject, more of the drug was absorbed, but with oral adminstration IGF levels were increased through the liver metabolization.

Not sure on this, but could be the reasoning behind adding an oral to the slin/test cycle.
 
I wouldnt wait 10 minutes to drink the carbs humalog hits pretty fast take your shot while your sipping your carb drink expect to feel strong and pumped but also beware that with exess calories you will put on just as much fat as muscle. iv used slin (humalin) and (humalog) humalog makes me fater now I dont think either are necassary anymore the gains in muscle are not worth looking like a fat ass.
 
mranderson said:
I wouldnt wait 10 minutes to drink the carbs humalog hits pretty fast take your shot while your sipping your carb drink expect to feel strong and pumped but also beware that with exess calories you will put on just as much fat as muscle. iv used slin (humalin) and (humalog) humalog makes me fater now I dont think either are necassary anymore the gains in muscle are not worth looking like a fat ass.
Well humalog is in out of your system in just a matter of hours...So if you avoid dietary fat intake for the time you should not experience any fat gain...Correct me if I'm wrong ?:confused:
 
JoeyDillinger said:
is it safe to take the slin b4 a workout and takes ur carbs durin the workout?
Well I would not suggest that...I would personally do it post workout to help with recovery
 
Taking slin before a workout runs the risk of going hypo mid workout. I wouldn't recommend it unless you are a very experienced slin user. Also just like to add that you shouldn't eat ANY fat 2 hours prior to the slin shot. Humalog isn't out of your system in 3-4 hours like most think, I believe it is something like 6-8 for it to be TOTALLY out of your system, there is a thread over on AR that has a graph showing how long it is active (although the drop-off after 3-4 hours is very large). So basically I wouldn't eat fat 2 hours prior to slin shot or 6-8 hours afterwards.
 
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