first time running deca

[mrdeeznuts]

ran sust 5 wks at 500mg/wk and dbol 25mg/per day for the first 5 weeks, decided to through deca in at 400mg/wk starting week 6 for 10 weeks.

currently finishing week 9 and haven't seen much gain. gained 14lbs in the first 5 weeks and stayed steady since. increased carbs, protein, and calories and still no gain since increasing in week 6.

only thing i have noticed was today while showering i had about 12 hairs on my hands after shampooing and 12 hairs after conditioning compared to my normal 3-4 each. so i started using Nioxin cleanser, conditioner, scalp treatment, and gel. to keep hairloss from occuring.

any suggestions on the hairloss and lack of gains. i know deca doesn't really start working till week4

 

[mrdeeznuts]

bump

 

[Ozz2001]

First off if you gained 14 pounds in 5 weeks it wasnt from the sus,because it takes 3 to 4 weeks to really kick in so what you got is dbol water and maybe 5 pounds of real muscle..4 weeks of deca is a waste! First off test cycles 10 to 12 weeks, deca 12 easy any thing short is a waste of time and gear....
If you dont know this stuff already you shouldnt have event stuck a needle in the first place!

 

[mrdeeznuts]

First off if you gained 14 pounds in 5 weeks it wasnt from the sus,because it takes 3 to 4 weeks to really kick in so what you got is dbol water and maybe 5 pounds of real muscle..4 weeks of deca is a waste! First off test cycles 10 to 12 weeks, deca 12 easy any thing short is a waste of time and gear....
If you dont know this stuff already you shouldnt have event stuck a needle in the first place!

i'm taking the deca for 12 weeks i started it on week 5. So it will be a 17 week cycle. i do know the 14 lbs i gained was mostly water weight but the weight has not changed since week 5 with an increase in carbs, protein, and calories.

diet is on key and so is the training.

have my pct, running dostenix, arim, and nolva throughout

 

[needtogetaas]

ran sust 5 wks at 500mg/wk and dbol 25mg/per day for the first 5 weeks, decided to through deca in at 400mg/wk starting week 6 for 10 weeks.

currently finishing week 9 and haven't seen much gain. gained 14lbs in the first 5 weeks and stayed steady since. increased carbs, protein, and calories and still no gain since increasing in week 6.

only thing i have noticed was today while showering i had about 12 hairs on my hands after shampooing and 12 hairs after conditioning compared to my normal 3-4 each. so i started using Nioxin cleanser, conditioner, scalp treatment, and gel. to keep hairloss from occuring.

any suggestions on the hairloss and lack of gains. i know deca doesn't really start working till week4

all I know is you just wasted some deca.4 weeks of deca want do much.want even start working till week 6 anny way.
exactly how many cals you taking in and how many grames of proitein you geting a day .whats youre weaght,stats so we knoe how much cals you should need.what are youre work outs like now. the 14lbs you gaind could just be water weaght from the dbols. stranth and size gains will come fast about week 2 with dbols but sust takes about week 6 to kick in.

most likely its youre cals and youre work out thats killing you.I would defanatly not throw in the deca its a wast of time and money.unless youre going to run it for 10weeks or more,and you shouldent do that now cuz you dont want the deca to be the last thing you take cuz it makes for a hard recovery.
allso can I ask are you takeing anny stuff like nolva right now.

 

[Ozz2001]

i'm taking the deca for 12 weeks i started it on week 5. So it will be a 17 week cycle. i do know the 14 lbs i gained was mostly water weight but the weight has not changed since week 5 with an increase in carbs, protein, and calories.

diet is on key and so is the training.

have my pct, running dostenix, arim, and nolva throughout

Well you just answered all your questions by saying you know the answer so i dont see why you event asked? 17 weeks cycle, dont expect to see much more gains but hey you got it all figured out, guess we wait and see dont we?
17 weeks your lost..enough said here....

 

[mrdeeznuts]

Well you just answered all your questions by saying you know the answer so i dont see why you event asked? 17 weeks cycle, dont expect to see much more gains but hey you got it all figured out, guess we wait and see dont we?
17 weeks your lost..enough said here....

ozz man i'm not trying to be a dick bro, i'm just asking what i did wrong

i'm running the deca for 12 weeks

the only thing i should have done different that i could see to see better gains was to start it at the beginning instead of after 5 weeks of dbol.

but shouldn't i see some increase gains from introducing a new compound in to the mix or a physical body change.

 

[sweed]

12000+ posts and you dont know how to run a cycle?? i think we got a CCer, lol..

sorry bro. but what was your reason about throwing the deca in after week 5. why didn;t u start it off with the sust and run it 12 instead of a long 17? but you will see some gains comingin a few weeks from that deca

 

[mrdeeznuts]

all I know is you just wasted some deca.4 weeks of deca want do much.want even start working till week 6 anny way.
exactly how many cals you taking in and how many grames of proitein you geting a day .whats youre weaght,stats so we knoe how much cals you should need.what are youre work outs like now. the 14lbs you gaind could just be water weaght from the dbols. stranth and size gains will come fast about week 2 with dbols but sust takes about week 6 to kick in.

most likely its youre cals and youre work out thats killing you.I would defanatly not throw in the deca its a wast of time and money.unless youre going to run it for 10weeks or more,and you shouldent do that now cuz you dont want the deca to be the last thing you take cuz it makes for a hard recovery.
allso can I ask are you takeing anny stuff like nolva right now.

5'7" 180lbs 24

270-300g protein
3600 calories

see i've done cycles before but first time with deca, i'm guessing the deca is just starting to start working if you say its 6 weeks before you start seeing anything i'm currently finishing week 4 of the 12 weeks of deca.

i'm using .5 mg arim eod, 20mg nolva ed, and .5mg dos e3d

 

[mrdeeznuts]

12000+ posts and you dont know how to run a cycle?? i think we got a CCer, lol..

sorry bro. but what was your reason about throwing the deca in after week 5. why didn;t u start it off with the sust and run it 12 instead of a long 17? but you will see some gains comingin a few weeks from that deca

10000 posts from when i went plat

different user name

i wanted to test some theories about how cycles are designed.

i'm doing blood work beginning middle and end to see the results

 

[needtogetaas]

5'7" 180lbs 24

270-300g protein
3600 calories

see i've done cycles before but first time with deca, i'm guessing the deca is just starting to start working if you say its 6 weeks before you start seeing anything i'm currently finishing week 4 of the 12 weeks of deca.

i'm using .5 mg arim eod, 20mg nolva ed, and .5mg dos e3d

is there a reson for takeing the antei e's now.I personaly dont take anny dering cycle but I am farly lucky and dont have anny problems dering cycles.I feel the stop some gains when working with compands like dbol and test.

 

[immortalis]

The cycle im currently on is the first time Ive used Deca also. Im stackin it with Test runnin 520test and 500deca per week.

All of my previous cycles have been test only, and everything was going just like normal on this cycle until about week 6. Then I assume it was the Deca I was feeling because I could just tell that I was getting stronger and putting on size much quicker than I normally do, while being on the same diet.

I take in anywhere from 3500 - 4000 cals a day now. Just make sure you keep your cals up while on Deca. Thats key.

 

[mrdeeznuts]

arim to combat bloating the bloating

nolva and dostenix to combat the gyno

i've actually cut all three down this past week to see if that was what was retaining gains, i now take nolva eod, arim .25mg eod, and dos e4d

 

[needtogetaas]

The cycle im currently on is the first time Ive used Deca also. Im stackin it with Test runnin 520test and 500deca per week.

All of my previous cycles have been test only, and everything was going just like normal on this cycle until about week 6. Then I assume it was the Deca I was feeling because I could just tell that I was getting stronger and putting on size much quicker than I normally do, while being on the same diet.

I take in anywhere from 3500 - 4000 cals a day now. Just make sure you keep your cals up while on Deca. Thats key.

ya deca helps big time for proiten intake wich intern makes the test work even batter.I allways run deca in my cycles.

 

[mrdeeznuts]

The cycle im currently on is the first time Ive used Deca also. Im stackin it with Test runnin 520test and 500deca per week.

All of my previous cycles have been test only, and everything was going just like normal on this cycle until about week 6. Then I assume it was the Deca I was feeling because I could just tell that I was getting stronger and putting on size much quicker than I normally do, while being on the same diet.

I take in anywhere from 3500 - 4000 cals a day now. Just make sure you keep your cals up while on Deca. Thats key.

awesome bro, so in about another week i should be seeing it start working.