First time poster/user with some questions (npp)

[bbnj]

Hi everyone this is my first post on the forum, all thou i have been visting the site almost everyday for months. I have found the site very useful and would like to thank eveyone for sharing their knowledge.

Now it is time for me to get some specific advice from you guys. Any and all help would be appreciated. Heres my story.......Ive been working out since freshman year of highschool for frosh football...at this time i remember being intregued and scared about steriods at the same time. Intregued because only the kids taking juice could bench 300pounds "the 300 pound club" the coaches referred to it as. Scared because of all the bad things i heard about steriods, and because i was obviousley to young to take them. Anyway i decided not to take them at this point........juniour year i quit football and slacked off on my lifting.........about a year ago i started to get back into lifting fairly hard.....and for the past couple months i've been going to the gym everyday. It has become as much of my dailly routine as taking a shower.

Last night i started my first cycle and have a few questions. I am using a 20ml bottle of Syrus ProNPP i plan on injecting 1cc 3 times week. My first question is, does everone think this will be enough? Or should i stack with somthing. I also have a 10ml bottle of syrus test300, should i use this or look for somthing else to stack with? I got this gear from a friend that is able to get me some things i ask for. I also have a website but i'm hesidant to order over the internet and they are over priced from what i understand. I live in new jersey..............also are 1 inch needles long enough for glute shots? After seeing how painless the inch needles were, i am thinking about using 1.5 inch?

My second question is what everyone thinks the BEST PCT i could run?? And anything i should run with the cycle? I am very concerned about loosing my hair, from a vanity standpoint. It doesnt seem to run in the fam, but i would like to take extra precautions with that and anything else.

Thanks again everyone, i'm sure you'll be hearing from me more often.

Here are my stats (almost forgot)

22 years old
165lbs
13%bf
5'11''
my diet is high protien low fat, and have been trying to eat as much as possible.

 

[scout69]

never used syrus so consider this a free bump but bro for future refrence why dont you ask before you actually start injecting yourself with shit...anyway keep us updated

 

[bobdudeman]

Seriously, If you just started, stop and ask for some info. I think you need to read and learn ore. I'm almost afraid to touch this thread.

 

[Stacemranger]

Hi everyone this is my first post on the forum, all thou i have been visting the site almost everyday for months. I have found the site very useful and would like to thank eveyone for sharing their knowledge.

It would seem you would understand not to start a cycle so early if you have been here for months.

Now it is time for me to get some specific advice from you guys. Any and all help would be appreciated. Heres my story.......Ive been working out since freshman year of highschool for frosh football...at this time i remember being intregued and scared about steriods at the same time. Intregued because only the kids taking juice could bench 300pounds "the 300 pound club" the coaches referred to it as.

This is attainable without juice, not that hard really. I could bench 280 before I did my first cycle.

Scared because of all the bad things i heard about steriods, and because i was obviousley to young to take them. Anyway i decided not to take them at this point........juniour year i quit football and slacked off on my lifting.........about a year ago i started to get back into lifting fairly hard.....and for the past couple months i've been going to the gym everyday. It has become as much of my dailly routine as taking a shower.

Here is where the problems begin.....You need to have more lifting time in you before doing a cycle. By lifting time I mean everyday hard as you can fucking stand it in the gym. The reason for this is steroids require you to progressively load more and more weight on your muscles to grow, meaning each workout after the first one of your cycle should be the hardest you've ever done.

Last night i started my first cycle and have a few questions. I am using a 20ml bottle of Syrus ProNPP i plan on injecting 1cc 3 times week. My first question is, does everone think this will be enough?
Ok it's 20mL, but how many mg's per mL?

Or should i stack with somthing.

I wouldn't use deca for my first cycle, not by itself. You will need some test with it.

I also have a 10ml bottle of syrus test300, should i use this or look for somthing else to stack with? I got this gear from a friend that is able to get me some things i ask for.
You sure your friend is not making a profit off of you?

I also have a website but i'm hesidant to order over the internet and they are over priced from what i understand.
PM a mod and send them your SECURE E-MAIL ADDRESS and they will tell you if a site is legit.

I live in new jersey..............also are 1 inch needles long enough for glute shots?
Yes, but 1.5" would be good too.

My second question is what everyone thinks the BEST PCT i could run?? And anything i should run with the cycle? I am very concerned about loosing my hair, from a vanity standpoint. It doesnt seem to run in the fam, but i would like to take extra precautions with that and anything else.

Best PCT will consist of HCG, clomid and nolva. You need all three of these, period. Concerned about hair, just watch it and hope it doesn't shed. IF YOU TAKE THE TEST, run adex at 1mg ED to prevent estro sides.


Here are my stats (almost forgot)

22 years old
165lbs
13%bf
5'11''
165lbs?!!!! I weighed 210 at 6' 11%BF before my first cycle. You needed more lifting time!

my diet is high protien low fat, and have been trying to eat as much as possible

Diet should be at least 3500 calories with high protein, moderate carbs and low fat. Don't just try and eat as much as possible, write everything you do down and keep track of it. You have to eat to grow, peroid!

 

[bbnj]

scout69: I researched the company. Heard it was very reputable.

bobdudeman: I didnt just decide to inject myself one day. Like i said i was 14 when i first around it, now i'm 22. I was told 3 shots per week would be a good start cycle. Now after getting over the initial fear of how my body might react. I'm starting to question if i should stack.

Stacemranger:

It would seem you would understand not to start a cycle so early if you have been here for months.

Why am i starting to early alot of memebr on the board are 22 or under?

This is attainable without juice, not that hard really. I could bench 280 before I did my first cycle.

I know this is attainable without juice, take in mind i'm talking about 15,16,17 year old kids benching 300 pounds (and not the big fat linemen)....regardless i was just recalling a memory, i dont condone any of it.

Ok it's 20mL, but how many mg's per mL?

75mgs of NP and 75mgs of test thats what the bottle says

I wouldn't use deca for my first cycle, not by itself. You will need some test with it.

The deca has test in it...i can also stack with the test300 i have ?????

You sure your friend is not making a profit off of you?


I was talking about the website being over priced...but yea i'm sure my friend is making money too....wish i had a better source but i dont.

PM a mod and send them your SECURE E-MAIL ADDRESS and they will tell you if a site is legit.

I checked it on british dragon website and it said it was legit....but i will also pm a mod..thanks

Best PCT will consist of HCG, clomid and nolva. You need all three of these, period. Concerned about hair, just watch it and hope it doesn't shed. IF YOU TAKE THE TEST, run adex at 1mg ED to prevent estro sides.

cool thanks for the advice.....

Diet should be at least 3500 calories with high protein, moderate carbs and low fat. Don't just try and eat as much as possible, write everything you do down and keep track of it. You have to eat to grow, peroid!

I dont just eat anything......no fast food ever!! no added sugars, glucose, or hydrogenated oils. I eat mostly whole wheat bread pasta ect.....I eat free range organic chicken and beef sometimes. I always eat organic fruits/vegitables when possible....organic everything when possible right down to my spices......I eat very very well. I just ment i'm trying to eat more.


Thanks again for the advice everyone...Please keep it coming

 

[nsashbl01]

You are doing 225mg/wk of Test and NPP. I have seen bros do their first cycle as low as 300mg/wk of test and grow nicely. I would do at least 1.2 cc's eod with the gear you have. That would bring you just over 300mg/wk of both Test and NPP. I would not have suggested Nandrolone in your first cycle, but it's too late for that. So just be carefull.

 

[blut wump]

At 5'11", 13% BF and 165 lbs, you haven't yet discovered how to eat. You'll find food and a decent workout program to be a damned sight more anabolic than anything you'll find in a vial. If you've no idea how to grow naturally then the chances of holding onto anything the juice might give you are zero to slim.

 

[thelion2005]

IMO ....
I'm wondering what your blood testing said.

It is vital to see the changes in your metabolism using data bounced off a base set of numbers. Even at 22 you need to monitor the vitals or you'll lose more than your hair or gain a pair you do not want.

 

[Stacemranger]

At 5'11", 13% BF and 165 lbs, you haven't yet discovered how to eat. You'll find food and a decent workout program to be a damned sight more anabolic than anything you'll find in a vial. If you've no idea how to grow naturally then the chances of holding onto anything the juice might give you are zero to slim.

That's what I was saying. Not bashing you bro, but you haven't even gotten to the door of growth. You need to figure out real fast how to grow with just food and INTENSE training. Yesterday at my gym, I was doing deadlifts and everyone in the gym stared at me while I was lifting, there were only about 6 people in there but still, you have to be super intense to get anything growth wise out of lifting. BUT, to grow at all you have to have food and calories. Better figure out the dieting real quick.

 

[Stacemranger]

Why am i starting to early alot of memebr on the board are 22 or under?

Yeah, a lot are 22 and under, but I gaurantee only about 10% of people on this board actually use AS.

I know this is attainable without juice, take in mind i'm talking about 15,16,17 year old kids benching 300 pounds (and not the big fat linemen)....regardless i was just recalling a memory, i dont condone any of it.

I wasn't the big fat lineman either.

75mgs of NP and 75mgs of test thats what the bottle says

Ok, so you got the test mixed with the deca already. Never really heard of that before, but ok.

The deca has test in it...i can also stack with the test300 i have ?????

You could, but what you're running now you're right at about 300mg/week of test and deca, so if you add the test300, you'll have test 600 and deca 300. I'd just stick with the combo and not add in the other test.

I was talking about the website being over priced...but yea i'm sure my friend is making money too....wish i had a better source but i dont.

Sent you a PM.

I checked it on british dragon website and it said it was legit....but i will also pm a mod..thanks

I'd stick with the mod idea, they have never steered me wrong.

cool thanks for the advice.....

Welcome.

Diet should be at least 3500 calories with high protein, moderate carbs and low fat. Don't just try and eat as much as possible, write everything you do down and keep track of it. You have to eat to grow, peroid!


I dont just eat anything......no fast food ever!! no added sugars, glucose, or hydrogenated oils. I eat mostly whole wheat bread pasta ect.....I eat free range organic chicken and beef sometimes. I always eat organic fruits/vegitables when possible....organic everything when possible right down to my spices......I eat very very well. I just ment i'm trying to eat more.

Who said anything about fast food? I haven't had fast food in years. Wheat, bread, pasta...all carbs. You're gonna get fat on your cycle, probably won't have enough protein. You might think you eat well, but you'll never really know unless you write it all down with numbers(cal, prot, carb, fat, sugar, sodium, fiber) everyday and keep track of it. What you are eating now might be healthy for a normal person, but you are on juice and that is not normal. You most likely need more protein and more calories to take full advantage of the gear.

 

[bbnj]

I know i could have worked out longer befor juice. In my mind juice will only speed up what i could have done naturally. Yes maybe i dont have as good of a base, and might not keep all my gains. The fact is i've made the decision to start and i have, so i just need some sound advice for my situation. And so far eveyone has been very helpful. I've decided to keep a log of what i eat starting tomorrow. Heres what i ate so far today, what does everyone think. Oh and also...i'm only 5'10" not 5'11' like i said befor (i remeasured today)

8:30am--protein shake(15grams whey protein) and 2 cups of skim milk.

9:15am--2 slices of whole wheat bread with natural peanut butter about 4 teaspoons.

12:10pm--chicken cutlet sandwich with broc rabe, fresh mozzarella and balsamic spread on a portuguese roll.

1:00pm cliff bar (10 grams protein)

I'm thinking maybe to many carbs???? and i'm sure i could use more protein....i'm trying to find time to add some egss in the morning.

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

you need www.fitday.com, and visit the nutrition & diet boards here.

I am 38 years old, and many times wished that I started earlier, but in retrospect, even though I was an athlete and lifted all my life, I really didn't know shit about lifting until I hit my 30's.

Your stats don't lie. They say you aren't eating right. It starts there. As you will hear many times, food is the most anabolic substance there is.

That Mexican gear with the 75mg/ml isn't going to get you very far either. I would put it away for a year, focus on your diet and lifting, then re-visit the possibility of using gear.

You didn't say why you want to start using AS either. Are you playing college ball? Interersted in turning pro? Want to impress broads? Don't want to be pushed around anymore? With all the talk of the need for stats, you don't hear many people asking why they are using the gear in the 1st place.

In any case - you are going to use the gear no matter what I or anyone else suggests...be careful and learn, learn, learn. Don't end up just another jackass with all sides and no gains.


Bluesman

 

[bbnj]

you need www.fitday.com, and visit the nutrition & diet boards here.

I am 38 years old, and many times wished that I started earlier, but in retrospect, even though I was an athlete and lifted all my life, I really didn't know shit about lifting until I hit my 30's.

Your stats don't lie. They say you aren't eating right. It starts there. As you will hear many times, food is the most anabolic substance there is.

That Mexican gear with the 75mg/ml isn't going to get you very far either. I would put it away for a year, focus on your diet and lifting, then re-visit the possibility of using gear.

You didn't say why you want to start using AS either. Are you playing college ball? Interersted in turning pro? Want to impress broads? Don't want to be pushed around anymore? With all the talk of the need for stats, you don't hear many people asking why they are using the gear in the 1st place.

In any case - you are going to use the gear no matter what I or anyone else suggests...be careful and learn, learn, learn. Don't end up just another jackass with all sides and no gains.


Bluesman

thanks for the site suggestion , i'll have to check it out.

As far as the gear not being potent enough...that was one of my original concerns. For right now i think i will bumb it up to 1.2cc's 3 times a week, instead of adding the test300.

I'm using AS for personal reasons, like looking and feeling good. I have a very athletic body already, i just want to add some lean mass.

And i dont want to end up like the jackasses with all sides and no gains.....thats why i'm asking for evryones advice....i want to make this cycle as successful as possible.