I was told test E or C for my first cycle.I found prop much better though,because you can stop at 2-3 weeks if you wanted to without even doing all that much damage if you decided it wasnt for you.Prop turned out to be one of my favorites.Every other day or every third day injections were the way I did my first time.Test E or C at 8 weeks isnt even worth it.You can run a 6 week cycle of prop/mast p and get twice the results without the waterweight gain.