First Injected cycle Dbol, Sust, EQ, Winny - Gyno Prone

[Joeyisahoss]

I am 30 years old,
I'm 6'2"
my natural weight at my height was about 170 superfast metabolism (ectomorph body type)
Current weight is 210 lbs with about 11% body fat with 10 hard years of lifting broken up by a motorcycle accident 2.5 years ago
I have taken everything from regular andro pills to the m1t pills, to all the new banned PHs.. even the quad compounds (yes I know the toxicity lol)
maybe 15 bottles/cycles total with unfortunately only maybe 12 PCTS from my lack of knowledge..
I have an inch size lump behind my right nipple and tiny one in my left.. Meaning I am prone to gyno.. (One day will have surgery I'm sure)
I have injected many times but no full proper injected cycle until now..

OK here is my First Injected "Proper" cycle...

I am asking you for your opinions on Dose sizes. I am not very sensitive to this stuff, but I don't want to over do it with too many sides.
Weeks 1-6Dbol (I have 2 vials)
Weeks 1-12/14 Sust (I have 3 vials)
Weeks 1-12/14 EQ (I have 3 vials)
Weeks 11-13 Winstrol (I have 2 vials) Injectable but will drink(The shit I got keeps me too sore lol) .75 ED
Weeks 1-16 Arimidex .05 ED or EOD?


PCT
week 1-2
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate ES - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
week 1-5--following:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD
Ostarine - 25/25/25/25/25
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

What are your opinions?

 

[dylangemelli]

I am 30 years old,
I'm 6'2"
my natural weight at my height was about 170 superfast metabolism (ectomorph body type)
Current weight is 210 lbs with about 11% body fat with 10 hard years of lifting broken up by a motorcycle accident 2.5 years ago
I have taken everything from regular andro pills to the m1t pills, to all the new banned PHs.. even the quad compounds (yes I know the toxicity lol)
maybe 15 bottles/cycles total with unfortunately only maybe 12 PCTS from my lack of knowledge..
I have an inch size lump behind my right nipple and tiny one in my left.. Meaning I am prone to gyno.. (One day will have surgery I'm sure)
I have injected many times but no full proper injected cycle until now..

OK here is my First Injected "Proper" cycle...

I am asking you for your opinions on Dose sizes. I am not very sensitive to this stuff, but I don't want to over do it with too many sides.
Weeks 1-6Dbol (I have 2 vials)
Weeks 1-12/14 Sust (I have 3 vials)
Weeks 1-12/14 EQ (I have 3 vials)
Weeks 11-13 Winstrol (I have 2 vials) Injectable but will drink(The shit I got keeps me too sore lol) .75 ED
Weeks 1-16 Arimidex .05 ED or EOD?


PCT
week 1-2
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate ES - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
week 1-5--following:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD
Ostarine - 25/25/25/25/25
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

What are your opinions?

if your s gyno prone as you say and you already have preexisting issues, then dbol is one of the poorest choices you can have... it basically aromatizes more than any oral you could have picked... kickstart with tbol at 60 mg day instead... run aromasin as opposed to arimidex on cycle and through pct... run test and eq for 16 weeks and run winstrol for 6 weeks... MAKE SURE you are running n2guard with tbol and winstrol... even if its injectable, its still toxic... everything else looks good bro... I would run hcgenerate es on cycle and then run hcgenerate in pct but if you go with es in pct then run the regular version on cycle for at least 8 weeks... i like the way everything else looks... run eq at 600-800 mg week... good job on your research...

 

[EZ_E]

Nice job on the weight gain BEFORE juicing

 

[Joeyisahoss]

First off, thanks to both of you dylangemelli and EZ_E.

OK So bumping to 16 weeks and 600-800mg EQ for better results.
Also bumping the sust to 16 weeks...
Bumping Winny to 6 weeks assuming my oils and glucosamine chondroitan keep me lubed up. (I am prescribed Vyvanse which is an amphetamine for my ADHD, and it does dry me up if I don't drink a couple gallons of water a day.)
I did confirm my surgery next year for gyno/lipo I've always wanted it since the right lump came into existence years ago.. (I heard you can get it completely removed a way it'll never come back.. and that's exciting)
I did have liver shield, but n2guard during my cycle also is a great suggestion cause my blood pressure can get up there with the vyvanse and stack.

Ok so how much would you think my weekly dose of sust should be with my past experience and tolerances?
Also I know you want me to switch my DBol.. but give me an idea of a weekly dose of that vs the weekly dose of tbol..

Again thanks for the responses. I will be logging my results with measurements and weight. I can post my food plan and everything when I get off work too. lol

 

[dylangemelli]

First off, thanks to both of you dylangemelli and EZ_E.

OK So bumping to 16 weeks and 600-800mg EQ for better results.
Also bumping the sust to 16 weeks...
Bumping Winny to 6 weeks assuming my oils and glucosamine chondroitan keep me lubed up. (I am prescribed Vyvanse which is an amphetamine for my ADHD, and it does dry me up if I don't drink a couple gallons of water a day.)
I did confirm my surgery next year for gyno/lipo I've always wanted it since the right lump came into existence years ago.. (I heard you can get it completely removed a way it'll never come back.. and that's exciting)
I did have liver shield, but n2guard during my cycle also is a great suggestion cause my blood pressure can get up there with the vyvanse and stack.

Ok so how much would you think my weekly dose of sust should be with my past experience and tolerances?
Also I know you want me to switch my DBol.. but give me an idea of a weekly dose of that vs the weekly dose of tbol..

Again thanks for the responses. I will be logging my results with measurements and weight. I can post my food plan and everything when I get off work too. lol

with sust, i would got 350 mg week... dbol 4 weeks at 30 mg but i don't think that's a good option for you bro... be smart... definitely run n2guard and make sure you are running aromasin the entire cycle and in pct... n2guard will be back in stock soon...

 

[crumly5]

is that 3 vials of sust 250? as much space as u take up naturally 3 vials may not get ur test up to a good level. What is the mg/ml of everything. ive seen test enanthate run from 100 all the way to 350mgs per ml.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

OK my Sust is 300mg per ml. (yay test than i expected.) lol
my EQ is only 250gm per ml.

Now for the sad part. My pills I already have are Dblol in clear capsules. no mgs on it.
blue arimidex capsules have no mgs either.

Side note..

for the past week ive been pinning tren 50mg ED just for shits and giggles.. (i know). but my strength just went through the fucking roof last night. Man my emotions are SO EXAGERATED! wtf lol stopped the tren. started my cycle.
yesterday I
pinned 1 ml of EQ in left quad and
pinned 1 ml of sust in right quad
My legs are sore like a mofo walking today, even with a perfect injection. yes first time in the quads... it felt so weird sliding the needle in hitting a tough spot half way in and punching through. felt so wrong... wasn't a nerve or anything. Just not a comforting feeling. lol I will keep everyone posted.

 

[EZ_E]

"for the past week ive been pinning trenbolone 50mg ED just for shits and giggles.."

Dude! C'mon....

 

[superturkey]

OK my Sust is 300mg per ml. (yay test than i expected.) lol
my EQ is only 250gm per ml.

Now for the sad part. My pills I already have are Dblol in clear capsules. no mgs on it.
blue arimidex capsules have no mgs either.

Side note..

for the past week ive been pinning tren 50mg ED just for shits and giggles.. (i know). but my strength just went through the fucking roof last night. Man my emotions are SO EXAGERATED! wtf lol stopped the tren. started my cycle.
yesterday I
pinned 1 ml of EQ in left quad and
pinned 1 ml of sust in right quad
My legs are sore like a mofo walking today, even with a perfect injection. yes first time in the quads... it felt so weird sliding the needle in hitting a tough spot half way in and punching through. felt so wrong... wasn't a nerve or anything. Just not a comforting feeling. lol I will keep everyone posted.

If your new to pinning the quad, you cant go wrong on the outer side of the leg 3/4 way up from knee to hip. Don't pin the front.
I find this is best if you get any PIP because if its in your ass you cant sit or walk properly, it sucks.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

Yah EZ-E.. it wasn't supersmart.. I just was impatient and had a half a bottle.. no excuse tho..
Superturkey it was at exactly 3/4th way up the quad toward the back and just slightly outside of center. So on a clock it would be right side was 10:30 and left was 1:30.
My legs are now extremely sore and I can barely bend over and get in my lowered car. lol

Found out the dbol is 20mg caps. took one yesterday and 2 today...
it seems where i pinned the tren in my glutes.. my gluts significantly have grown on the upper outer quadrant.. is this because the higher level of localized hormone or... swelling without pain?(doubtful its a sterile abscess or just swelling)

 

[EZ_E]

Next time you have extra tren just send it to me.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

LOL I have about 5ml of deca too. the tren is like 2ml left..
So last night was miserable for sleeping. My quad pain is out of control... so I foam rolled it out and used a heating pad. I couldn't walk upstairs or down cause my quads are so sore..
Alsom,The massive strength from the tren hit during a chest day and this is 2 days after and my chest has serious DOMS. I lifted 15 pounds more on every dumbbell press, atleast 30-40 pounds more on hammer strength machines, and 10-15 pounds more on cables.
Overall just outside of a week of Tren E 50mg ED the strength gains aren't worth it with the crazy emotions I went through. My reasoning is whats the point of having so much strength if you are just going to lift too heavy and slow down your training? on the other hand.. maybe if I don't lift my usual reps at a weight that wont permit more than 6-10 that I will be able to train more consistently. It's clear that taking steroids is making me reformulate what I think is the perfect weight to lift. Before I would do the same reps with the same failure rate but never be this sore. Today I found my compression pants and am wearing them under my slacks at work hoping it will help me because my girlfriend entered me in a volleyball league and season starts tonight. lol On a side note.. my endurance has never been super amazing because I never do cardio... however last night we had sex and I absolutely wrecked it and finished and didn't want to pass out. I got up and wanted to go out with all my new found energy. lol I'll keep you all posted.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

Thank god I feel so much better today as far as soreness. Time to hit back and bi's really hard. last night i could barely move let alone play volleyball.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

PIP is now nearly non-existent. Apparently virgin muscles need at-least 2 pins to become used to the "abuse" lol I have noticed that the .5 Arimidex EOD might not be enough. I contacted my friend for some Aromasin multiple times to no avail... Strength is through the roof... I would say I noticed it last week for sure. I am up atleast 6 pounds SOLID since I started... Also, it seems that no matter how hard I train I don't get sore like I used to... It makes me want to train the same muscles every other day. Would that be a bad idea? I think since I am getting my optimum sleep and nutrition I am healing super fast with the elevated test now. On a side note, smaller testicles? maybe?.. more of a sex drive.. DEFINITELY. lol Will keep you all posted.. but would like some inputs on how often you guys can train when nutrition/hormone/sleep is maxxed.

 

[Joeyisahoss]

I am in week 4... blood tests came back. ALS and ALT are 190ish.. Cholestorol is 248 and BP is 141 over 91 at 90bpm... Strength is through the roof. Strongest I've been in my entire life... Weight has plateaued at 220 and I have about 15% body fat at 6'2" .. Pinning no longer hurts.. assuming u dont hit a vein or nerve.. i did a couple times on the quad and pulled out immediately and re-pinned. I'm thinking I should up my doses. I am at
300 SUST E3D and 250 EQ E3D also. Breast tissue is getting so big behind my nipples its spread out to where it just looks like I have huge pecs.. Will get the gyno removed at tax returns.. the arimidex EOD would have been better to have aromasin prolly. The water weight from the DBOL is noticable.... especially in the nipple region.. definitely prefer to combine my EQ and SUST to a 2ml/cc single pin in one location. been rotating glutes and quads only. glutes got FKin HUGE!! i think its from pinning in them. I have a huge ass now, and it's kinda humorous. Overall such a good stack.. just wish I didn't have the pre-existing gyno that flared up even with the arimidex.
To break this plateau I will need to increase my calories. Time to buy some more serious mass.