Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below damn guys...what up i just injected my first time last nite...1cc of test it was an experience....one thing tho...i mean my left cheek hurts soooo much....can hardly walk....cant lie on my left hip....HELP with personal exp's please....sorry if this has been posted be4 but just like some help..
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JC Grifter
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I feel your pain bro.. i used testerona200 for my first cycle... damn i couldnt sit down... so when i start my sust 2morrow. i am mixing it with deca to sooth the pain.. also dont forget to massage the site afterwards.. and if you want to , take a warm bath .. or put on a heating pad.... but personally i would say definetly mix the shot with deca or EQ.. it will help alot.. good luck bro
RustyTromboneMan
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Hurts
Be happy that it hurts, it reminds you that your on top of the world.
Be happy that it hurts, it reminds you that your on top of the world.
chronicx357
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same thing happened to me when i took my first injection of sust. i couldnt sit down for 4 days. next injection i massaged it for 5 min after the injeciton and barely felt pain. massage and i garuntee it will drasticaly reduce the pain
greek by injection
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just remember no PAIN no GAIN
the worst part for me is thinking about it
, the actual little prick ain't shit.... just my 2 cents
the worst part for me is thinking about it
, the actual little prick ain't shit.... just my 2 centsyea i didnt message it now that i think of it...but i will def do next time and put some warm towels on it...i hope i can workout on monday (chest tris) my next shot is gonna be tuesday i think....but fuckin A legs are on wednesday what have you guys done when you go thru this shit.!@!!!thnxk
tee
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Congrats bro! Yes, you should massage it. I also do deep squats with no weight in the bathroom immediately afterwards. Its seems to help. I have also heard running the pin under hot water for a minute before injecting to heat it up slightly can help. Never tried it though. Good luck!
darkvader111
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Big ups to you bro!!! The first time is the hardest. My 1st cycle i used test cyp and OMG that shit hurt! But it gets better as you work your way through your cycle. Everyone seems to have the same answers for you and they are right, warm towels and massage worked like a charm. Keep us posted on your results..
Vader
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Yes, please keep us posted...I would like to learn for my first upcoming cycle. I never even thought about pain after the injection gettting in the way of a workout.
I bet sitting on a massaging chair would help too....you can try going to the Shaper Image to try theirs out.....if massaging it by hand helps sitting in that thing for 30 mins would prob do wonders.
But do you guys think that massaging makes it get absorbed faster and thus you have less sustained action?? (meaning if you're going to go for massaged-less pain injections they should be smaller and more frequent)
I bet sitting on a massaging chair would help too....you can try going to the Shaper Image to try theirs out.....if massaging it by hand helps sitting in that thing for 30 mins would prob do wonders.
But do you guys think that massaging makes it get absorbed faster and thus you have less sustained action?? (meaning if you're going to go for massaged-less pain injections they should be smaller and more frequent)
dimitrios
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Kronk had posted this about a month ago. I think this should work out for you. He seems to really know alot about injections and any thing else that has to do with it.INJECTION TIPS
Ok. So you need to make sure that you have your needles and syringes. You will want to get around a 22 gauge with a 1 1/2 inch needle. I suggest you get a 5cc syringe as it gives you more to hold on to when injecting. Make sure you have enough of these for all your injections BEFORE you start. Don’t run out and not be able to take your inject.
Here is how you should inject.
First off, you will want to inject into the upper corner of your glute. Imagine a line running up and down on your ass crack, and then draw another line across the middle of your butt. Aim for the upper corner on either side of you ass. You will need to prep the area with some rubbing alcohol as well. Make sure everything is very clean. Here is a breakdown:
1. Draw your gear in the syringe with a new needle.
2. Replace the needle with a fresh one prior to inject.
3. Squeeze out the air bubbles
4. Clean the injection site with rubbing alcohol.
5. Slowly stick the needle inside of your glute.
6. Aspirate (pull the plunger back to see if any blood comes back, if so you hit a vein. Remove needle and start over) If no blood you didn't hit a vein, and keep going.
7. Squeeze the syringe very slowly. Take your time to inject, the slower you go, the less pain there will be. Pull the needle out when done.
8. Clean off area again with alcohol.
To deal with some more painful gear, now is a good time for a light massage and if possible, stick your butt on a heating pad for about 10 mins. This will help with the pain. You can also run your syringe under hot tap water for about 60 seconds (with the gear in it) before you inject. This makes the oil easier to inject and disperse when it is inside you. I have also included some other ways to lessen the pain. Please see below:
Most of the pain you goes in certain AS (Ttokkyo/IP etc.)is due to the high BA (benzyl alcohol) content. Hopefully one of these will help allot of you bro's out.
1. Try mixing the painful to inject steroid with one that is not painful to inject. Such as Ttokkyo's Sust mixed with Deca. Or Prop with EQ. There are many combos but you get the idea. This somewhat dilutes the overall BA content. Its like not being able to drink vodka straight, but mix it with some orange juice and you can drink tons of it without any problems. This is nothing new; most of you already know this.
2. Try applying a heat pad over the injection area for 10 min directly after you inject. A light massage during this time will help as well. Some guys like to rub on some icy hot at this point, I do this and it really works.
3. Try baking your vials to reduce BA levels. Here is how you do it. Preheat your oven to 250 degrees. Place a cookie sheet in the middle rack. Take a small gauge needle such as 25g and stick it in the vial. Do not put the tip of the needle into the oil; leave it just above the oil. Stand the vial up in the middle of the cookie sheet and let it bake for 15 minutes. Take it out let it cool and repeat this once more. While it’s baking the BA will vaporize and exit via the needle. This will greatly reduce the BA content and should result in a less painful shot. You might loss an ml after it’s all done but not much.
4. Try using sterile water to take the BA out. Buy some sterile water, bacteriostatic
water. You also need a 5ml syringe. The day before your shot mix 1ml of the painful steroid with 2ml of the water in the 5ml syringe. Pull back the plunger and shake hard for one minute. Let it sit overnight with the cap on the needle of course. Right before your ready to shoot it point the needle down, the BA will be mixed with the water and then you just shoot out the BA/water mix. You will have pure oil/steroid left. Do this all at a cool room temp, heat and steroids without any BA don’t mix. What will be left will be a thick oil so use the proper gauge needle such as 23.
If none of the above work, or a mixture of several of the above doesn’t work then send me your gear for free disposal! I will be happy to take it off your hands, DONT THROW IT AWAY!
Ok. So you need to make sure that you have your needles and syringes. You will want to get around a 22 gauge with a 1 1/2 inch needle. I suggest you get a 5cc syringe as it gives you more to hold on to when injecting. Make sure you have enough of these for all your injections BEFORE you start. Don’t run out and not be able to take your inject.
Here is how you should inject.
First off, you will want to inject into the upper corner of your glute. Imagine a line running up and down on your ass crack, and then draw another line across the middle of your butt. Aim for the upper corner on either side of you ass. You will need to prep the area with some rubbing alcohol as well. Make sure everything is very clean. Here is a breakdown:
1. Draw your gear in the syringe with a new needle.
2. Replace the needle with a fresh one prior to inject.
3. Squeeze out the air bubbles
4. Clean the injection site with rubbing alcohol.
5. Slowly stick the needle inside of your glute.
6. Aspirate (pull the plunger back to see if any blood comes back, if so you hit a vein. Remove needle and start over) If no blood you didn't hit a vein, and keep going.
7. Squeeze the syringe very slowly. Take your time to inject, the slower you go, the less pain there will be. Pull the needle out when done.
8. Clean off area again with alcohol.
To deal with some more painful gear, now is a good time for a light massage and if possible, stick your butt on a heating pad for about 10 mins. This will help with the pain. You can also run your syringe under hot tap water for about 60 seconds (with the gear in it) before you inject. This makes the oil easier to inject and disperse when it is inside you. I have also included some other ways to lessen the pain. Please see below:
Most of the pain you goes in certain AS (Ttokkyo/IP etc.)is due to the high BA (benzyl alcohol) content. Hopefully one of these will help allot of you bro's out.
1. Try mixing the painful to inject steroid with one that is not painful to inject. Such as Ttokkyo's Sust mixed with Deca. Or Prop with EQ. There are many combos but you get the idea. This somewhat dilutes the overall BA content. Its like not being able to drink vodka straight, but mix it with some orange juice and you can drink tons of it without any problems. This is nothing new; most of you already know this.
2. Try applying a heat pad over the injection area for 10 min directly after you inject. A light massage during this time will help as well. Some guys like to rub on some icy hot at this point, I do this and it really works.
3. Try baking your vials to reduce BA levels. Here is how you do it. Preheat your oven to 250 degrees. Place a cookie sheet in the middle rack. Take a small gauge needle such as 25g and stick it in the vial. Do not put the tip of the needle into the oil; leave it just above the oil. Stand the vial up in the middle of the cookie sheet and let it bake for 15 minutes. Take it out let it cool and repeat this once more. While it’s baking the BA will vaporize and exit via the needle. This will greatly reduce the BA content and should result in a less painful shot. You might loss an ml after it’s all done but not much.
4. Try using sterile water to take the BA out. Buy some sterile water, bacteriostatic
water. You also need a 5ml syringe. The day before your shot mix 1ml of the painful steroid with 2ml of the water in the 5ml syringe. Pull back the plunger and shake hard for one minute. Let it sit overnight with the cap on the needle of course. Right before your ready to shoot it point the needle down, the BA will be mixed with the water and then you just shoot out the BA/water mix. You will have pure oil/steroid left. Do this all at a cool room temp, heat and steroids without any BA don’t mix. What will be left will be a thick oil so use the proper gauge needle such as 23.
If none of the above work, or a mixture of several of the above doesn’t work then send me your gear for free disposal! I will be happy to take it off your hands, DONT THROW IT AWAY!
wow thnkx soo much guys...wicked useful stuff...im gonna definetly follow these guidelines...i mean i did it right the regular way...but with the xtra knowledge its tight cuz now i can prep myself better...i'll definetly keep everyone posted on my cycle and stuff...just popped a dbol too...taking 4 today....
one more thing bros!!!!
how long till i notice changes in myself from the dbol?
how long till i notice changes in myself from the test?
i have some anti-acne prescription that helps get rid of acne and pimples when should i start taking it to reduce breakouts and stuff during my cycle....thnkx!!!
one more thing bros!!!!
how long till i notice changes in myself from the dbol?
how long till i notice changes in myself from the test?
i have some anti-acne prescription that helps get rid of acne and pimples when should i start taking it to reduce breakouts and stuff during my cycle....thnkx!!!
barbell265
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no delts...
Tell ya what bro I have only done one cycle and it was five years ago but I shot into my delt cuz my ass was sore. I'm not going to say the two are linked but I wound up hurting the same shoulder I was shooting. Felt like a tear, happened about 3-4 wks after my cycle was over. May have been pushing too hard tryin' to keep the gains but either way I won't shoot anywhere but my ass from now on.
dankduke said:
Tell ya what bro I have only done one cycle and it was five years ago but I shot into my delt cuz my ass was sore. I'm not going to say the two are linked but I wound up hurting the same shoulder I was shooting. Felt like a tear, happened about 3-4 wks after my cycle was over. May have been pushing too hard tryin' to keep the gains but either way I won't shoot anywhere but my ass from now on.
dimitrios
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Hey danduke, I have never done a cycle. I have thought about it but it's just not for me. I have nothing against someone that does. I like to read all about it, the information you get on this site is awesome. I have not worked out for some time now, I have some medical problems, and am recovering from a hand operation now. I am hoping to get back into it in the next 6 to 8 months. In September 1999 I competed in my first and only show (1999 TWIN LABS NPC NATURAL CLASSIC) where I placed 3rd in the midle weight class. I was very happy about this because 8 months before that was the first time I lifted weights. My weight then was about 230lbs. The owner of the gym took me aside one day and asked if I wanted to start some real training. I listen to everthing he said and with in 8 months I did the show. My weight at the show was 169lbs, bi's were 17" Chest was 46", calf 17", waist 27", I am 5'7". I feel that good gennetics and the awesome help of my trainer made my progress happen fast. I started training for another show about 7 months later and I was getting bigger and stronger, I was 4 weeks out and I was harder then, then I was at the first show. I got a call for a job I wanted so I had to back out of the show and relocate to South Florida. This really bothered me , but I can allways do another show. I would love to do it again but not sure when. I am 35 now so I guess I better got on the ball, I could always wait until I am in the seniors division. LOLdankduke said:
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