First cycle..

[boother21]

Hey, starting my first cycle and so far I came up with

Weeks 1-10: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs a week
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100mgs EOD

(No set PCT yet, still waiting for feedback on it, trying to prevent gyno during my cycle with a smooth transition off my cycle)

6'1
190
14.5% BF
Training hard for just over 2 years now, did it casually for about 2 years before that (sports took up too much time to lift weight)
Nutrition is set.
Goals are to build lean muscle without gaining weight, if anything drop a few pounds of fat. First time, so just want something simple for my body to get used to it.

Any thoughts on what I should run, to drop or add, and even length of time would be greatly appreciated. (Thought about cutting it to 8 weeks instead of 10.)

Thanks for the time

 

[Colochine]

Looks good. You could run adex or aromasin or forma stanzol on cycle to prevent bloating, if you that worried about it but from what I've read mast has intrinsic AI properties so they shouldn't be necessary. Always good to have on hand though!

Just plan out a PCT and you'll be good to go.

 

[phenom16]

Seems too long to run anavar. an oral longer than 6 weeks makes your liver scream.

 

[phenom16]

Also how old are you?

 

[Colochine]

Seems too long to run anavar. an oral longer than 6 weeks makes your liver scream.

Yea I didnt even catch that, I've seen it run 8 weeks MAX...but 10 weeks no go sir.

 

[Judo Tom]

drop the anavar from the cycle.

also do you want to be doing all the injects that come w/ a mast cycle?

any reason you didnt want to do just a test/sust only cycle?

 

[boother21]

I thought masteron would give good lean growth with the sustanon.

Should I run the var from weeks 1-6 or 4-10? Also, I thought about shortening it to 8 weeks. What do you recommend?

Adex over Nolva??

Also, i'm 21

 

[boother21]

drop the anavar from the cycle.

also do you want to be doing all the injects that come w/ a mast cycle?

any reason you didnt want to do just a test/sust only cycle?

What sort of dosages and length of time do you recommend with that? And what can I expect from that?


Also what do you guys recommend for PCT and when to start it? I posted in the PCT forum but no answer yet.

Is Mast safe to inject twice a week? or better EOD?

 

[oklahoma86]

I agree, first of all, with just running a test only 10 week cycle for your first one. 500mg Test Cyp or Test Enth injected bi-weekly, then PCT. Easy!

BUT... to answer your question...

If you have mast prop you want to run it EOD, mast E you can inject 2x week. When I run masteron and sustanon together I use Mast P and inject them both EOD, about 700mg Sustanon and 600 Mast (each week). If you a test other than sust, I would keep it to 500mg/wk. Mast P and Test P EOD @150mg/ea EOD works great/ even though your gonna be fine with just the sustanon, if you DO run mast, I would do 150 or 200 EOD. In my opinion, 200mg is 3x as effective as 100mg!! With the var run it the last 4 or 6 weeks at 50 or 60mg.

 

[boother21]

Weeks 6-10: anavar, 60mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: sustanon, 250mgs a week
Weeks 1-10: Masteron prop, 150mgs EOD

Should I buy mast E instead of P? Big difference?
I'd prefer less injections. So if E is 2x a week, could I inj sus and mast same day Mondays and Thursdays?

 

[phenom16]

Also, i'm 21[/QUOTE]
Yeah based on your name I thought so. Why are you so intent on ruining your own natty hormone levels at 21 bro? I think you should wait a few years and build to your genetic potential.

 

[Tux]

Am I the only one wondering why you are running such a heavy first cycle? Start light and easy, you will always gain well on your first cycle. Straight test 3-500mg/week for 10 weeks, maybe a light dose of an oral the first 4 weeks to kickstart it will do wonders for you. Plus you're very young, are you sure you're even close to needing a boost yet? Don't start too heavy and don't rush into the game bro... I would pick 2 compounds, max, and not too heavy or long. You can always adjust from there if necessary!

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Also, i'm 21

Yeah based on your name I thought so. Why are you so intent on ruining your own natty hormone levels at 21 bro? I think you should wait a few years and build to your genetic potential.[/quote]

+1 on this. You have no reason to run all that gear for your first cycle anyway. Anavar, Mast, and Test? Bro I understand the feeling of wanting things faster and to build the physique you want more quickly but you are on a crash course with HRT and that is not a fun place to be in your twenties. Not to mention you did not know what AI's to run or that you liver would be toxic running var that long? I promise bro I am not trying to flame you at all. I am trying to save your sex life and your future kids. If you train hard, diet right, you will see results. Come back when your natty levels start to drop and then cycle. You probably will not listen to this but it does not change the fact that the information I am giving you is correct, true, and in your best interest.

 

[Arabian]

Yeah based on your name I thought so. Why are you so intent on ruining your own natty hormone levels at 21 bro? I think you should wait a few years and build to your genetic potential.

+1 on this. You have no reason to run all that gear for your first cycle anyway. Anavar, Mast, and Test? Bro I understand the feeling of wanting things faster and to build the physique you want more quickly but you are on a crash course with HRT and that is not a fun place to be in your twenties. Not to mention you did not know what AI's to run or that you liver would be toxic running var that long? I promise bro I am not trying to flame you at all. I am trying to save your sex life and your future kids. If you train hard, diet right, you will see results. Come back when your natty levels start to drop and then cycle. You probably will not listen to this but it does not change the fact that the information I am giving you is correct, true, and in your best interest.[/QUOTE]

^^^^^ Exactly. You are in a good place now , just eat , train and max out your genetic potential like Obsessed said before you try AAS. You will be thanking us later . Best of luck to you

 

[boother21]

I understand where you're all coming from and I appreciate all the info.

I did know var was liver toxic, just I had a friend who ran var at 60mgs ED along with winny for 6 or 8 weeks and read of a few people running anavar for 10, so I thought at 10 weeks at 40mgs ED wouldn't be too hard as long as I ate right and wasn't drinking. I did have an idea for PCT just wanted to hear peoples opinions for best way to come off the cycle I had in mind. But you guys have the experience so I listen to you.

It was a good learning experience for me to post as here in case down the road I do run a cycle, I can be prepared and understand.

Again, appreciate all the help.

Cheers