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first cycle

yea bro a g of test for a first cycle is redicilous. Sust isn't the test you should use first either, cuz you won't be able to tell how certain tests affect you. Just go with the cyp but IDE say run dbol for the first 4 weeks at 40mg a week. That was my first cycle 6 years ago and I blew up on it. I know your prolly dead set on a g of test but take this advice bro a g of test on first cycle is a horrible.
 
save the sus. imo unless u r doing 1gram+ a week that u waste the test-p only injecting once or twice a week. i think sus should be an eod injection.
 
i agree with what the others have said, just do 500mg per week of either, but I suggust 500mg of the cyp because of the single ester...but both will do the trick
 
agree with all.
i think better test c even at 250mg per week.
what are your stats/goals bro?
generally speaking, you should get good results, low sides(if any) from 250 per week.
1st cycle is always a good idea to test the waters.
even if you like, increase the dose around week 3/4 if you need to.
also, best to stick to 1 compound as to elimanate confusion as to how your body is reacting to what.

furthermore, just as important as to what you use for your cycle is your PST, if not more importanat.
imo, get on the nolva and hcg.

again, just keep it simple mate. you can fuck yourself up forever with these drugs so take your time and learn how to do it safe.
good luck

baz
 
Yeah bro, stick with cypionate 250 for your first cycle. You will get GREAT results if you eat ALOT and train correctly. Cyp was my first cycle and I blew up. Just make sure you have the proper pct on hand BEFORE you start the cycle. I suggest HCG while on cycle @ 500 iu's e3d's and a-dex eod or ed depending on how you react to the test. and finally dermacrine sustain for pct which should be started 2 weeks after your last shot. Use it @ 5 pumps a day untill it's gone (usually 26-30 days). You use clomid instead but I won't touch that crap anymore now that I found dermacrine but it's all up to you bro. PM me if you need any help. :artist:
 
500mg sust or test c will give you great gains not both at the same time or 1000mg. 8 - 12 week cycle and you'll be happy
 
500mg sustanon + an oral, maybe d-bol or anadrol 50
 
10 weeks is plenty for a first run. 250-300mg a week as long as your diet is spot on and your getting enought rest and training hard enough
 
xrsist said:
10 weeks is plenty for a first run. 250-300mg a week as long as your diet is spot on and your getting enought rest and training hard enough

If he wants to run a gram, I doubt you'll talk him down to 250. I agree with you though. I did sustanon at 250/week for my first cycle and had great results. I'd do sus over the cyp.
 
krishna said:
If he wants to run a gram, I doubt you'll talk him down to 250. I agree with you though. I did sustanon at 250/week for my first cycle and had great results. I'd do sus over the testosterone cypionate.

youre tellin me! some of these tools think they can preform miracles and save guys from what they already intend on doing anyway lol
 
At what point did we stop asking for a little background info before recommending cycles? Stats? Goals? How long have they been working out? Is the diet on track? Hell, we don't even know if its a male as no gender was specified. We're just assuming because of the user name? I've seen some guys with pretty feminine user names and vise versa.
 
1g gains>>500mg gains..
HOWEVER

I'd do:

500mg Cyp 1-8
40mg Dbol 1-4
40mg Tbol 8-10 (allows Cyp to completely clear before PCT)

Week 11 Start PCT
 
holy ghost said:
youre tellin me! some of these tools think they can preform miracles and save guys from what they already intend on doing anyway lol

but wouldnt your advise be to add this and that and run orals for 10+ weeks along with bumping more dosages and adding more compounds?
 
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