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Deterass
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being a newbie myself on my first cycle of deca only. i will tell you the info i got from quite a few people.some say its ok to run deca by itself and others say its a waste. 400 mgs a week is a good first cycle.i guess it reacts different for people but my cycle started about five weeks ago of deca only. at first i was worried because my gains were not coming very fast so i ordered some dbol tabs and they should be here this week.BUT after the fourth week the gains and strength came.it seemed like all at once. up 13 lbs and thats while i was watching my body fat and eating right. my sex drive is down some ,but not dead. you wont need hcg. three weeks after your last injection start clomid for three weeks.100mg the first day and 50 mg ed after. this is info i got from a vet.
PRAETORIAN
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jc21
tf??? are you telling this newbie to do 750mg/wk of test for his first cycle. if so that is a really stupid suggestion, he can make his goals with 250mg/wk test and 300mg/wk deca.
What is stupid is not understanding how sustanon works and making suggestions without doing any research....250 mg/week of sust is perfect yes ..if you want to to shunt your natural production of testosterone and are not really interested in anabolism...also because sustanon is a blend of various timed esters it must be done eod at least and(m-w-f at 250 mg/ml is not 750 ml /week) do some research on sustanon please...the esters enter the bloodstream at different times and total testosterone count will not reach 750 mg for some time) also I did not suggest doing that for 8-10 weeks..please reread the post before making stupid comments!!! Newbie or not...you are wasting your time and money doing 250mg of sust a week...if you are going to do test...do it right or dont do it at all....seeing that the question confirmed that these 2 compounds were all the user could get..i am making a suggestion that would lead to the greatest gains with the least side effects...m-w-f for 4-5 weeks onthe sust with the deca going straight thru would maximize gains without being harmful to anyone! The idea of using oral compounds such as anavar is ludicrous unless you are a woman, want to spend hoards of cash, and dont mind putting your liver in jeopardy. Please people, sustanon does not work like cyp, susp, or enan...do a search on google to find out the correct way of cycling it...and dont suggest things if you dont know!
jc21
tf??? are you telling this newbie to do 750mg/wk of test for his first cycle. if so that is a really stupid suggestion, he can make his goals with 250mg/wk test and 300mg/wk deca.
What is stupid is not understanding how sustanon works and making suggestions without doing any research....250 mg/week of sust is perfect yes ..if you want to to shunt your natural production of testosterone and are not really interested in anabolism...also because sustanon is a blend of various timed esters it must be done eod at least and(m-w-f at 250 mg/ml is not 750 ml /week) do some research on sustanon please...the esters enter the bloodstream at different times and total testosterone count will not reach 750 mg for some time) also I did not suggest doing that for 8-10 weeks..please reread the post before making stupid comments!!! Newbie or not...you are wasting your time and money doing 250mg of sust a week...if you are going to do test...do it right or dont do it at all....seeing that the question confirmed that these 2 compounds were all the user could get..i am making a suggestion that would lead to the greatest gains with the least side effects...m-w-f for 4-5 weeks onthe sust with the deca going straight thru would maximize gains without being harmful to anyone! The idea of using oral compounds such as anavar is ludicrous unless you are a woman, want to spend hoards of cash, and dont mind putting your liver in jeopardy. Please people, sustanon does not work like cyp, susp, or enan...do a search on google to find out the correct way of cycling it...and dont suggest things if you dont know!
Texas Ranger
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Praetorian, regardless of how Sustanon works, you suggested that a newbie use 750mgs of Sust and 400mgs of Deca for his First Cycle! That's totally irresponsible!! Now, JC 21 said 250mgs of Test and 300mgs of Deca. Not 250mgs of Sust, if you really wanted to get techinical about it. Either way, it was HORRIBLE advice, bro....
PRAETORIAN
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RE: Texas Ranger
Ranger...3@ 250mg sustanon per week...DOES NOT work out to 750 mg...please do some research....you do not simply add the esters....also "250mgs of Test and 300mgs of Deca. Not 250mgs of Sust" IS referring to sust since the newbie stated in his post that was all he could get...and the amount suggested is not totally irresponsible if you understand how sustanon works...please find out before posting ....sustanon is NOT a single estered testosterone and should not be treateed as such....John Maynard posted on Elite awhile back the proper way to cycle sust..please do a search and find out!
Ranger...3@ 250mg sustanon per week...DOES NOT work out to 750 mg...please do some research....you do not simply add the esters....also "250mgs of Test and 300mgs of Deca. Not 250mgs of Sust" IS referring to sust since the newbie stated in his post that was all he could get...and the amount suggested is not totally irresponsible if you understand how sustanon works...please find out before posting ....sustanon is NOT a single estered testosterone and should not be treateed as such....John Maynard posted on Elite awhile back the proper way to cycle sust..please do a search and find out!
PRAETORIAN
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RE:jc21
Oh yeah almost slipped my mind..".if you want just strength and not much size then go with anavar
or halotestin." now that is good advice right?
Halotestin for a newbie...not even precontest ...come now...lets not get out of hand!
Oh yeah almost slipped my mind..".if you want just strength and not much size then go with anavar
or halotestin." now that is good advice right?
Halotestin for a newbie...not even precontest ...come now...lets not get out of hand!
PRAETORIAN
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RE:jubei
Jubei, there really is no need for profanity...ignorance is bliss i know and sometimes it is difficult to find out what you thought was correct all along is not. Please do some research...learn how esters react and how they enter the blood stream...spewing profanity and insults does little good for anyone...especially a newbie trying to learn proper cycling techniques! If you haven't found out how...there is still time for you to learn...what the guy in the gym told you or what the local dealer suggests on cycling is not the best advice for anyone!
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-577.html
Read and learn...next time do your own research!
Jubei, there really is no need for profanity...ignorance is bliss i know and sometimes it is difficult to find out what you thought was correct all along is not. Please do some research...learn how esters react and how they enter the blood stream...spewing profanity and insults does little good for anyone...especially a newbie trying to learn proper cycling techniques! If you haven't found out how...there is still time for you to learn...what the guy in the gym told you or what the local dealer suggests on cycling is not the best advice for anyone!
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-577.html
Read and learn...next time do your own research!
PRAETORIAN
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Newbies a good read!
Here is a good read for all newbies..or "advanced" as we like to think right jubei!
Knowledge is power my friend..live and learn!
http://www.anabolicextreme.com/archives/anex_archives_issue3_stercycling2.htm
Here is a good read for all newbies..or "advanced" as we like to think right jubei!
Knowledge is power my friend..live and learn!
http://www.anabolicextreme.com/archives/anex_archives_issue3_stercycling2.htm
