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Sepe Jr.

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I am about to start my first cycle ever and want to do it correctly, since major gains are made on your fist cycle.
it will consist of d bol only, I am 180lb. 5'11" I need 15-20 solid pounds.

I have clenbuterol,clomid for afterwards, I need help on the cyle length and dosage for the d-bol.I also need to know what anti-estrogen is best for this cycle, I dont want to take any chances. :confused:
 
my first cycle was deca 200mg with d-bol 20mg and gained about 15 pounds...i don't think you will need anti-estrogens..only clomid afterwards say 3 weeks after last shot of deca....later
 
Sepe Jr. said:
I am about to start my first cycle ever and want to do it correctly, since major gains are made on your fist cycle.
it will consist of d bol only, I am 180lb. 5'11" I need 15-20 solid pounds.

I have clenbuterol,clomid for afterwards, I need help on the cyle length and dosage for the d-bol.I also need to know what anti-estrogen is best for this cycle, I dont want to take any chances. :confused:

Don't do a d-bol only cycle, you must add Testosterone or any other injectable, but Testosterone is the best

as D-bol has a very weak binding rate to Androgen receptors therefor it need any other Steroid which binds strongly to Androgen receptors to creat a good stack and helps D-bol in binding

as well as D-bol is a 17alpha alkylated Steroid and should never be used for more than 4-5weeks for beginners, and I don't think that a cycle of 4weeks only would be sufficient for inducing muscle growth

here's a good cycle of 8-10weeks
500mg/week of Test for 8-10weeks
35mg/day Dianabol for the first 4weeks
also adding Equipoise will be great as well, at least 300mg/week for the entire cycle

A good ANti-Estrogen would be Arimidex at 0.25mg/day during the cycle
Unless you can't afford Arimidex due to it's expensive price then Proviron 40mg/day for the entire cycle as well
run Clomid 3weeks after last shot of Test or Equipoise

also keep Nolvadex on hand but don't use it untill symptoms of gyno appears

Good luck
 
my next cycle will be Arnold's cycle, 5 Dbols a day with 200 Primo a week, sounds weak but Arnold got huge muscles by it
 
Yellowbomber said:
my next cycle will be Arnold's cycle, 5 Dbols a day with 200 Primo a week, sounds weak but Arnold got huge muscles by it

It's all rumors, he must be on at least 2000mg of Testosterone a week for just maintaining muscle mass,
as an example Lee Priest who tried to decieve people by confessing that he's on roids currently on Deca & Primo only during bulking, fuck!!!

Unless it's a rumors, all bodybuilders just pretend to use little amount of roids and some of them deny 100% that they're on roids
 
Why dbol only? Is that all you can get? Dont want to inject? Cant afford anything else? The reason would help with providing you advice, but i think a dbol only cycle would be a waste of your first cycle.
 
At that times Primo just was arriving from Germany and it was the runner for everybody, doubt Pros at that time used Test???
 
Sepe Jr. said:
dont want to inject, have heard people gaining 20 solid pounds with d-bol alone only going up to 25mg.


why don't you want to inject? i took my first injection 3 days ago, gettin bit by a mosquito hurts more then injecting. Those needles are so tiny I promise you, you won't feel a thing. As for Anti-E's arimidex works great at a .25 of a tab a day or get liquidex which is the same thing. Good luck.
 
I don't think it is feasable to gain 20 pounds of muscle on a D-Bol only cycle, like Weam said, add some Test and you will be much happier.

M18
 
maybe not 20 lbs but I gained about 12-15lbs on a d-bol cycle but that was at 40-50mg a day :rolleyes:



give me back the colours :mad:
 
What about Tomaxifen, Dr. V. Craig Jordan, Who Developed The First Anti-Estrogen Tamoxifen a.k.a Nolvadex, by Bristol-Myers Squibb at 1972
The drug was available at 1974

is that's a good reason!!
 
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