First Cycle!!

[Nickkill13]

-Testosterone Propionate
Week 1-10 : 150mgs/EOD

-DBOL
Week 1-6 : 30-50mg/ED

-AI
Arimedex : Week 1-10 : .5/ED

Aromasin : Week 1-10 : 12.5mg/EOD

-PCT 3 DAYS AFTER LAST PIN

-PCT
Clomid
-Week 11: 50mgs/ED
-Week 12: 50mgs/ED
-Week 13: 25mgs/ED
-Week 14: 25mgs/ED

Nolvadex
-Week 11: 40mgs/ED
-Week 12: 40mgs/ED
-Week 13: 20mgs/ED
-Week 14: 20mgs/ED

Any advice? different doses? should I use 2 AI's and 2 PCT's or will I be fine with one? Please criticize and give me input if needed, this is my first cycle, I have done 2 prhormine stacks previously, on a PCT now from my last PH stack

 

[bigorse]

drop one AI use aromasin or arimidex. you may find you dont even need one esp. once off dbol but good to have on hand. pct looks great but id wait about 4 days after last test p pin to start.
well thought out cycle, looks like youve done some reading before posting.

 

[Nickkill13]

alright cool and thanks man, yeah I've been doing a lot of research, I'm not trying to mess my body up too bad or get gyno haha, thanks for replying

 

[Stackinplates]

Why p for first cycle ?

U don't mind eod pins? Most new guys want minimal pins

 

[Stackinplates]

Stats

 

[Nickkill13]

I'm doing prop for my first cycle because I read prop is 80% testosterone opposed to cyp and enthanate are 60% test, right now I'm 205lbs, 6 foot at 12.5%BF

 

[Anabolic187]

-Testosterone Propionate

Week 1-10 : 150mgs/EOD



-DBOL

Week 1-6 : 30-50mg/ED



-AI

Arimedex : Week 1-10 : .5/ED



Aromasin : Week 1-10 : 12.5mg/EOD



-PCT 3 DAYS AFTER LAST PIN



-PCT

Clomid

-Week 11: 50mgs/ED

-Week 12: 50mgs/ED

-Week 13: 25mgs/ED

-Week 14: 25mgs/ED



Nolvadex

-Week 11: 40mgs/ED

-Week 12: 40mgs/ED

-Week 13: 20mgs/ED

-Week 14: 20mgs/ED



Any advice? different doses? should I use 2 AI's and 2 PCT's or will I be fine with one? Please criticize and give me input if needed, this is my first cycle, I have done 2 prhormine stacks previously, on a PCT now from my last PH stack

Use your nolva during cycle and arimidex later so basically swap them. Your test levels are more stable on cycle as you are injecting test eod, it starts dropping as soon as you discontinue. I found arimidex to be more potent than nolva. So take advantage of the right drugs at the right time.

Not a bad cycle plan.. Too much test imo for a first cycle.. Save some for next cycle.

Test p for first cycle can make you hate injectable AAS and lean you towards more orals in the future. Plus first cycle and test p pip eod

My personal favorite is test enan. Never let me down. Twice per week not much pip compared to test p.

Im glad you've done proper research. Now do some more research on how much test you actually need to put on quality muscle mass with minimum sides. Also find out how much test you actually produce per day at your age and you will realize that you dont really need that much test per week to grow. Also look up trt doses and results with slightly higher doses. It works perfectly..

Keep us updated.

Good luck ️

 

[bigorse]

Use your nolva during cycle and arimidex later so basically swap them. Your test levels are more stable on cycle as you are injecting test eod, it starts dropping as soon as you discontinue. I found arimidex to be more potent than nolva. So take advantage of the right drugs at the right time.

Not a bad cycle plan.. Too much test imo for a first cycle.. Save some for next cycle.

Test p for first cycle can make you hate injectable AAS and lean you towards more orals in the future. Plus first cycle and test p pip eod

My personal favorite is test enan. Never let me down. Twice per week not much pip compared to test p.

Im glad you've done proper research. Now do some more research on how much test you actually need to put on quality muscle mass with minimum sides. Also find out how much test you actually produce per day at your age and you will realize that you dont really need that much test per week to grow. Also look up trt doses and results with slightly higher doses. It works perfectly..

Keep us updated.

Good luck ️

yeah test is a little on the high side. you could start lower and taper up as necessary, that is the good thing about test p is it will only take a week or so to "feel" adjusments in doses as oppose to longer esters.

as the others said longer esters are ussualy recomended for first cycles but you are also correct in that you get more test per mg from test p so if you dont mind pinning then i dont really see a problem with test p.

 

[Nickkill13]

okay so I'll lower the test to 100mgs EOD and maybe go up eventually, I need to be on an AI while I'm on my cycle though, I was already starting to see early stages of gyno (puffy sensitive nips) when I was on my prohormone stack so now I'm always worried about gyno lol

 

[Anabolic187]

okay so I'll lower the test to 100mgs EOD and maybe go up eventually, I need to be on an AI while I'm on my cycle though, I was already starting to see early stages of gyno (puffy sensitive nips) when I was on my prohormone stack so now I'm always worried about gyno lol

Yes of course you have to its normal thats why i said use the nolva on cycle week 1-10 it will do the job and arimidex later when you stop the test as your test levels will drop and will notice more gyno/estro sides.

I think 20-30mg of dbols per day would do the job and you're still asking for trouble since you just said you noticed some gyno/estro sides. Safe better than sorry.

Sounds like you're going to use the dbols either way so take care and do it in moderation.

yeah test is a little on the high side. you could start lower and taper up as necessary, that is the good thing about test p is it will only take a week or so to "feel" adjusments in doses as oppose to longer esters.



as the others said longer esters are ussualy recomended for first cycles but you are also correct in that you get more test per mg from test p so if you dont mind pinning then i dont really see a problem with test p.

️ Nickkill13 take note