First Cycle

[deejaybt]

Hello,

I've been on my cycle for two weeks now and i'm encountaring a few issues / side effects that i'd like some advice / help with.

Here are the problems so far. I've put on 7kg in 12 days so far in weight, i don't feel fatter or anything, however this seems pretty fast to be piling on the pounds? Boy do i ache though. Today i've had 4 nosebleeds that have been pretty nasty, i got my blood pressure checked before i started and was told by my Doc i was in perfect condition that end. I play soccer three times a week and today for my second session i could barely run, severe pain in my feet and calves was unbearable and reduced me to plodding around, i doubt i'll be able to play on Sunday at this rate. I weight train 3 times a week as well as the soccer and my goals on the cycle was to get in tip top shape, and become faster & stronger than ever before and ideally be around 85-88kg maximum weight whilst dropping BF to around 10% for when the season starts in 8 weeks time.

Winstrol - 100mg per day - 50mg oral tabs (1 upon waking, 1 before bed)
TestoRapid - 200mg every 3 days - Injectable (Alternate Buttocks)

My stats are as following;
Age - 25 years old
BF - 17%
Height - 6ft
Weight - 92kg (before taking) Currently at 98.5kg

My diet consists of;

Oatmeal - 60g with 200ml semi skimmed milk

Syntha 6 - 50g protein shake & approx 30 almonds

2 x chicken breast with a cup of steamed broccoli, carrots & cauliflower

2 x chicken breast or 1 big steak with a cup of steamed broccoli, carrots & cauliflower

Any help or advice would be massively appreciated guys

 

[EZ_E]

You had your BF checked BEFORE cycle, since you've been on it appears to be elevated....probably something to do with the high dose you're running & the BF being 17% (which is high) and the EXTREME high dose of winny, 100mg's a day? The winny is also causing the muscle aches/pumps....

You should drop the winny altogether & lower the test dose, what is the planned length of your cycle? What do you have as an AI? PCT?

 

[STTM]

That cycle is actually quite advanced, and not ideal for someone that does a sport that involves endurance. Orals are known to cause pumps/pain in calves, feet, and back, especially during cardio.

The nose bleeds is a sign of high blood pressure, surely from 100mg of Winny a day.

I would change your Test Prop dose to 100mg/eod, and drop the winny dosage to 50mg per day. Split the pill in 2 and take half in the AM and the other half in the PM. Taurine may help to alleviate the muscle pain/pumps, but if you still have them I would look into dropping the winny all together.

 

[deejaybt]

I've had another nosebleed since i posted, this time in my sleep which woke me up. Makes a total of 4 in just under 24 hours.

I only took 50mg of Winstrol yesterday instead of the 100mg, you guys think i should cut it out completely and just stick to the test?

My cycle was going to be for 8 weeks.

 

[dylangemelli]

bro you are going about this entire process so wrong... you should not start running orals at high doses if your an endurance athlete... not only are the pumps horrible and cause a hindrance but the methylation causing lethargy really hurts as well... all you should be doing is running sarms... your body fat is too high for steroid use... you don't even list the proper protection from methylation... your going to end up severely hurting yourself... for what your goals are and what type of athlete you are, this is what you should be doing...

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[deejaybt]

Think I'm just going to come off them completely. If I've been taking 100mg winstrol for two weeks and the test, would I need to do PCT?

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

EZ E is right, it's the winny causing your cramping problems. Winny tightens you up and dries you out. That's a high dose. Cut it in half, drink lots of water, potassium, taurine, etc..

If you are going to come off, it would still be a good idea to do a pct. Check out ag guys if you need anything.

 

[deejaybt]

I've come off it, but two weeks to the day I started I came off. What are we recommending for pct?

 

[RickRock13]

I've come off it, but two weeks to the day I started I came off. What are we recommending for pct?

Here is a strong PCT for you:

Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AG Guys)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (AG Guys)
Test Stack 3 caps per day (see thread in my signature for info/discounts)
Ostarine 25mg ED (sarms1)

 

[littleb]

Glad you got off everything before you hurt yourself,,, steroids are a drug, they can be very safe with proper use or very bad with no idea what you are doing.. The very fact that you had to ask about if you should run a pct and the cycle you decided to go with shows that you did not read up, did not do proper research ect...
what were your blood work ups b4 you started for a baseline? what is your avg. bp? study my brother and do it right and then when ready keep it simple...