First Cycle- Winstrol and ????

[PHD]

FIRST CYCLE- Winstrol and ????

Hi guys, I just started my first ever cycle 2 weeks ago. Am a novice in this game...any forthcoming advice will be much appreciated.
I'm 6'0 tall, I weigh bout 215lb or 97.5 Kg. Don't know my BF but it is probably on the higher side.
I started with 100mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (inject.) and 50 mg of Winstrol Depot (inject.)
Been continuing Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg inject EOD for 2 weeks.
Plan to continue Winstrol - stanozolol EOD for 4-5 more weeks. Should I take Test in this cycle?? Is it Okay to take Sustanol?? How much should I take??
Also have no PCT - post cycle therapy - planned...should I???

 

[JarheadChiro]

Bro, as a rule I tell people Test ONLY is a great first cycle.

Do about 200-300mg a week.

Have some Nolva on hand for sides, and don't worry about PCT.

 

[PHD]

Bro, as a rule I tell people Test ONLY is a great first cycle.

Do about 200-300mg a week.

Have some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for sides, and don't worry about PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - .

I understand- but seeing as I have started with the winny 50 mg EOD cycle, can I supplement it with Test? and if so what kind?? Cypionate, prpionate or sustanol?

 

[MorganKane]

I suggest you stop and do some research.
You are clueless and cant have dont any research before you started.

Just a suggestion.

 

[MichaelScott]

man not to be rude, but, you are the type of person that gets aas a bad rap, this is not a game man, look at what u posted..."Also have no PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - planned...should I???" it was absurd. i have to agree you have no idea what u r doing

 

[PHD]

I suggest you stop and do some research.
You are clueless and cant have dont any research before you started.

Just a suggestion.

Ya... thanks man. You've been really helpfull.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

I have a saying, "the only shitty cycle is a cycle that's not well thought out". Your cycle was just what that saying refers to. You don't decide what your cycles going to consist of mid-cycle, you think things through and have a plan in place. Winny is not a good choice for a first run at all. Stop your cycle, read, research and plan.

 

[MorganKane]

Ya... thanks man. You've been really helpfull.

Its the best advice you will get.
Stop being a dumb ass and read a little.

Or just continue fu$king up yerself.

 

[AhMadKooL]

Listen to what we are telling you. Your cycle is shit. period.

If you care about yourself you'll stop and do more research.

As it's been suggested the better option for a beginner cycle is a test only cycle

 

[xrsist]

man not to be rude, but, you are the type of person that gets anabolic androgenic steroids a bad rap, this is not a game man, look at what u posted..."Also have no PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - planned...should I???" it was absurd. i have to agree you have no idea what u r doing

.....

 

[big greg 82]

heheehe

 

[samoth]

Re: FIRST CYCLE- Winstrol and ????

Also have no PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - planned...should I???

Yes!

Dude, don't jump the gun (or the needle) without knowing how to properly start, maintain, and finish a cycle properly. Never start a cycle before already possessing everything you will need -- this is because shipping delays are often beyond the sellers or buyers control.

I'd suggest looking into acquiring some clomid and whatever else you might want for post cycle.

 

[catulo]

Bro, as a rule I tell people Test ONLY is a great first cycle.

Do about 200-300mg a week.

Have some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for sides, and don't worry about PCT - post cycle therapy - .

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...sterone-hamburger-helper-steroids-553353.html

here is a good reason for why test isnt good choice for first cycle

 

[crazyjoe]

Bro, as a rule I tell people Test ONLY is a great first cycle.

Do about 200-300mg a week.

Have some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for sides, and don't worry about PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Hey bro, just wondering what the reason is for the test only first cycle.

 

[PHD]

I understand what you guys r saying, maybe I didn;t think this all the way thru but I live in India and I have access to everything. Not to say that stuff is easy to score over here but my instructor is pretty much the most recognised body builder in the country. He was Mr. India 8 times in a row before he quit (He's 40 yrs old now) Apart from that we've known each other for many years so he is a good friend to me.
He seems to think winny 50mg EOD is a good cycle. I am looking for your input on wether I should take some test with it and what I should use as PCT. Remeber access is not a problem. Thank you all for your advice.

 

[MichaelScott]

if he's a fukkin expert why are u asking us? im calling bullshit on this whole thing, thank you

 

[SOLID2]

Re: FIRST CYCLE- Winstrol and ????

Hi guys, I just started my first ever cycle 2 weeks ago. Am a novice in this game...any forthcoming advice will be much appreciated.
I'm 6'0 tall, I weigh bout 215lb or 97.5 Kg. Don't know my BF but it is probably on the higher side.
I started with 100mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (inject.) and 50 mg of Winstrol Depot (inject.)
Been continuing Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg inject EOD for 2 weeks.
Plan to continue Winstrol - stanozolol EOD for 4-5 more weeks. Should I take Test in this cycle?? Is it Okay to take Sustanol?? How much should I take??
Also have no PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - planned...should I???

? why did you start with deca and just quit.. deca takes some time to begin to work.. at 100 with no test and then quit, i dont know why you would do this.. i agree with the test only to see how you react to gear first.. it is obvious that you have what you have, but, i would do something like this.. wk 1-10 test and deca.... last 4 weeks, winstrol.. pct.. just my choice.. 50 mg ed clomid for 3 weeks.. after the test has cleared your system.. with the deca, if you are proned , you can say good bye to your sex drive for about 6 months if not careful here.. hope this will help you some with your decisions. and by the way, these guys here know what they are saying to you.. they are not being a smart but, just trying to help you out..

 

[MichaelScott]

i am just confused by the whole thing

 

[Nelson Montana]

I agree with the sentiment that you shouldn't just "wing" your cycle as you go along. But I also don't agree with the "lousy cycle" mentality. Anything will work.

I also think Clomid will be pointless since neither Dec a or Winstro l aromatizes, all the Clomid will do is ADD estrogen and as often happens, lower your libido.

And yes, test is the worst choce for a first cycle.

So there you have it. Completely contrasting points of view. Hope it helps.

 

[PHD]

I agree with the sentiment that you shouldn't just "wing" your cycle as you go along. But I also don't agree with the "lousy cycle" mentality. Anything will work.

I also think Clomid will be pointless since neither Dec a or Winstro l aromatizes, all the Clomid will do is ADD estrogen and as often happens, lower your libido.

And yes, test is the worst choce for a first cycle.

So there you have it. Completely contrasting points of view. Hope it helps.

Thanks for your input. I read your post on 'why test is not a good first cycle'-very informative.

 

[AhMadKooL]

bump, I'm wondering too why test is a bad option for a first timer and if u think so what other alternative u have?