First Cycle Research

[JMattes]

I am researching for my first cycle and would like input. Knowing what I am planning and preparing for it helps to motivate me to get to my goals in order to even do the cycle. I will post my stats, but keep in mind I will not start the cycle until I am 15% bf or less and wont start it until I get to atleast that.

24 years old
6' 4" 250lbs
%bf unknown
Hoping to get down to 220 and 15%bf in 4-5months. Diet is pretty solid. I will break down what I eat if anyone really cares to know, but I still got 4 months to fine tune it.

First cycle (planning 4 month out)

1-12: test-E @ 500mg/week (possible 15wk? or is it pushing it?)

N2Guard weeks 1-12
HcGenerate weeks 1-12

My PCT: Clomid: 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 (starting wk 10)
Unleashed/Post cycle (follow directions on bottle)

My questions:
The use of Arimidex? Yes/No?
Adding Test-prop to weeks 1-4 to kick start my cycle.. dosages?

Its my first cycle so I dont know if I should include extras.. But I can get the prop for free so I figured I may as well ask about it.

Stuff I know little about are pinning.. So if anyone wants to post links, I know there are stickies about locations, but I mean the gauges themselves and where to get them..(needles are legal.. so i can ask for source right?)

Thanks guys.

 

[RickRock13]

Keep your cycle to 10-12 weeks Max for your first one.

PCT looks good.

Arimadex or a comparable AI like Formastanozol is good to have on cycle to mitigate estrogen sides.


For your first cycle, I wouldn't use test prop as a kickstart. Use an oral instead. Test p is mire painful and has to be dosed EOD which isn't ideal for your first.

You can find plenty of info and opinions on pinning and needles, but my preference is 22g to draw and 25g to inject, 1" length with 3cc syringes, and I pin quads. Its very easy to pin there as you can get good control using two hands if pinning yourself

 

[JMattes]

Thanks for the quick response and good info..

Recommendations on orals to kick start?
Or should i just do stand alone..?

I had acouple other choices of a free vial from my source.
Test C
Boldenone
Nandrolone Deca
NPP

Didnt know what they were really and didnt want to go past the basics yet..

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the quick response and good info..

Recommendations on orals to kick start?
Or should i just do stand alone..?

I had acouple other choices of a free vial from my source.
Test C
Boldenone
Nandrolone Deca
NPP

Didnt know what they were really and didnt want to go past the basics yet..

you need to just forget about all of the things you listed here and just take it slow... run test e and depending upon your goals, that will determine the oral you run for a kickstart... if your going for more of a bulk, then dbol is a good kickstart... if your looking for more lean muscle, then tbol is an excellent kickstart... this is all you need to be doing on a first cycle... one oral kickstart and test is plenty...

 

[stevesmi]

I am researching for my first cycle and would like input. Knowing what I am planning and preparing for it helps to motivate me to get to my goals in order to even do the cycle. I will post my stats, but keep in mind I will not start the cycle until I am 15% bf or less and wont start it until I get to atleast that.

24 years old
6' 4" 250lbs
%bf unknown
Hoping to get down to 220 and 15%bf in 4-5months. Diet is pretty solid. I will break down what I eat if anyone really cares to know, but I still got 4 months to fine tune it.

First cycle (planning 4 month out)

1-12: test-E @ 500mg/week (possible 15wk? or is it pushing it?)

N2Guard weeks 1-12
HcGenerate weeks 1-12 start it week 4 or if you start having nut shrinkage before that to save some extra money, you can start it week 1 if you would like but i'm trying to save you some cash

My PCT: Clomid: 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 (starting wk 10)
Unleashed/Post cycle (follow directions on bottle)

My questions:
The use of Arimidex? Yes/No? yes you need an AI during cycle.. keep the dosages light, you don't want to kill estrogen of course.. you want to control it
Adding Test-prop to weeks 1-4 to kick start my cycle.. dosages? or 20mg dbol but its not necessary to kickstart a cycle always.

Its my first cycle so I dont know if I should include extras.. But I can get the prop for free so I figured I may as well ask about it.

Stuff I know little about are pinning.. So if anyone wants to post links, I know there are stickies about locations, but I mean the gauges themselves and where to get them..(needles are legal.. so i can ask for source right?)

Thanks guys.

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[JMattes]

you need to just forget about all of the things you listed here and just take it slow... run test e and depending upon your goals, that will determine the oral you run for a kickstart... if your going for more of a bulk, then dbol is a good kickstart... if your looking for more lean muscle, then tbol is an excellent kickstart... this is all you need to be doing on a first cycle... one oral kickstart and test is plenty...

Your right I was kinda just listing things. Dbol was an option, but Tbol I dont know where to get it. Thats y I had the list. (since I am not a gym rat I am relying on the internet..

Same for my PCT.

I know i dont need to kick start my cycle I was just thinking if I can get a free vial of test-p.. maybe it wouldnt be too bad especially if i can get both the e and p in one syringe. it may not hurt as much on my virgin muscles