First Cycle Questions

[swanky11]

Im thinking of doing my first cycle soon, and am looking for advice.
Im 6'1 210 and looking to put on 10-20 lbs and get stronger. I only want to do around 8-10 cycle. what would you recommend? I was thinking test but it would have to be short half life, or jump start with dbol.

 

[Mac173]

Since you need something to clear quick then I would stick w/ prop at 100-150mg eod w/ dbol for first 4wks at 20-40mg ed.

 

[armo72]

It doesn't matter what test you do. If its your fist cycle I would go for a longer ester so you don't stick yourself so much. 1-10 250-500mg any test and dbol to start.

 

[swanky11]

alright thanks for the advice

 

[swanky11]

so if i do 10 weeks of test with dbol the first 4 weeks should i take an anti e during or just wait til pct? and what would you recomend for pct?

 

[silverfreak]

Opinions vary....but an AI, AE, and HCG are all good ideas.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545208

 

[digit0x]

so if i do 10 weeks of test with dbol the first 4 weeks should i take an anti e during or just wait til pct? and what would you recomend for pct?

Some guys take Anti's while on to combat bloat and prevent gyno/Estro , some don't. I ran test only and I was fine although I have never done dbol concurrently. If your set on 8 weeks your gonna have to go with what mac said and hit that prop. But I would say you'd make those results if you just ran Test E/Cyp only for 10-12 weeks. As your first cycle, if you don't yeild a good 15 pounds you did something wrong.

Whats ur ~~BF%?

 

[swanky11]

Whats ur ~~BF%?

not sure, but i cant see it being more than 10. only fat is some on lower abs and some on sides.

 

[swanky11]

Opinions vary....but an AI, AE, and HCG are all good ideas.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545208

ok thanks

 

[swanky11]

SO if i want to get stronger and gain a solid 10-20 lbs my best bet is to go with a test 500 mg/week for 8 weeks, and dbol 40 mg/day for first 4 weeks?

 

[swanky11]

should i add winny the last 2-3 weeks? and what should i do for pct to keep my gains and not crash?
hcg, nolvadex, clomid?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Just realize you will never hold 20 pounds of muscle a month after you go off. Maybe 5-6 if you do everything right.

 

[swanky11]

Just realize you will never hold 20 pounds of muscle a month after you go off. Maybe 5-6 if you do everything right.

so if i gain 15 lbs ill only keep 5lbs.

 

[solidspine]

First cycle,

Deca 1-12 400mg week
Test E 1-12 400mg week

Anti E

PCT

Have diet, rest, Training, food, suppliments,,,,,etc in order

 

[swanky11]

First cycle,

Deca 1-12 400mg week
Test E 1-12 400mg week

Anti E

PCT

Have diet, rest, Training, food, suppliments,,,,,etc in order

id like to stay away from deca b/c of the long half life.

 

[digit0x]

so if i gain 15 lbs ill only keep 5lbs.

if ur running test only and you do everything correctly (which procedure is "correct" is debateable), you should be able to keep most of what you gain.

 

[swanky11]

if ur running test only and you do everything correctly (which procedure is "correct" is debateable), you should be able to keep most of what you gain.

ok thanks for the help. would you recomend jump start w/ dbol and winny at the end?