first cycle..please help

[eeyore]

Hi,

I'm about to start my first cycle and was wondering if I could get some critiques.....I have read numerous posts on this board and have done a decent amount of research...so..here goes...

I am about 180 lbs @ less than 10% BF. Been lifting for about 8 years.....(34 years old). I would like to gain about 20 lbs, and keep it , if possible....

Dbol=> 15-20 mg/d weeks 1-3

Deca and Enanthate=> 100mg/w each, weeks 1-2
Deca and Enanthate=> 200mg/w each, weeks 3-11

(these doses are somewhat in line with realgains posts)

Refraction :

I have read many things regarding refraction guidelines. The first is from "Built to Survive":

HCG=> 5000 iu/w for four weeks followed by ..
Clomid=> 100mg/d weeks 5-8

the second is taken from lawnsaver posts..

HCG=> 500 iu ed for 2 weeks..
Clomid=> 300mg day one; 100mg/d, day 2-11; 50mg/d, day12-21

I have read many contradicting post some stating clomid will make you lose gains, some saying the oppisite. I have also read that HCG should be used with Deca, and I have also read some that state that HCG, or any post therapy for that matter, is a waste of time.

I'm confused..can somebody please help.????

 

[Johnny Cut]

Hey bro

Just run the same amount of gear the whole way through

1-11 Deca 200-400mgs
1-11 Test Enanth 200-250mgs
1-4 dbol 25mg/day

HCG 500 iu days 2 and 5 for 2 weeks..
Clomid 300mg day one; 100mg/d, day 2-11; 50mg/d, day12-21

 

[MikeyG]

I'm with Jonny cut on this one.

Another thing you gotta change your name bro. Eeyore ain't a good name on a anabolic board you might be eaten.

 

[TECH ONE]

Johnny C is right on the money!! I would follow the cycle he laid out for you!! My only other advice is to eat like a mofo and continue to do so after your cycle so that you can maintain your new muscle mass!! Good luck with the cycle and do your self a favor and change your name dude!!!

 

[FatChops]

enanth @500mg/wk 1-10
deca @ 400mg/wk 1-10
dbol 25mg/ed 1-5

You'll be very happy with this one bro. Have fun and good luck.

 

[eeyore]

Thanks for all the info. everybody. It helped me a lot.

Guess I'll have to change my name though.........

 

[MASKEDMAN]

YEah what everyone else said, but I would run the Deca and test on a 2:1 ratio. I did that for my first cycle with 30mg of dbol a day taken every four hours. I saw very good results. Good luck and keep us posted on your results. Masked

 

[brotheriron]

You guys slate me for using over a gram of test per week, but no-one bothers when a "novice" is talkin bout doing 5000iu HCG a week post cycle?
Even I dont do more than about 3500 a week after doing a 2g test course.
Just a thought!?!!
Bro

 

[JayBro]

Fatchops has the good mass cycle...I would up the d-bol to 35mg's a day for 5 weeks.

 

[eeyore]

I never had any intention of doing 5000iu's of HCG....I was merely pointing out the contradiction of information I have found out there.

I will follow Johnny Cut's advice as written......