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First Cycle Log Sus, Deca

Lowered the adex to .5 ED again. nips arent sore again yet (of course the lumps are still sore) but the nips arent pokey or irritated.. yet. Ill just keep cycling the adex like this i guess untill i find a good medium and than ill know for my next cycle too.

weighed in at 196 today. so its nice to see acouple pounds come on again. even though i kinda feel like its fat, judging by the mirror. as long as i can keep putting some pounds on even slowly i think it can hit 200-205.

took acouple quick pics acouple days ago weighin in at 194. im not happy with the way i look but ill post them as progress pics tonight or tomorrow. untill than im gonna go eat and turn into a huge fat ass.....
 
strength is good. Diet is the same as i posted awhile back on pages 1-3 but with an added huge turkey sandwich or qdoba chicken burrito just to up my cals 1000 more. Its the one only thing i eat thats not real clean. but im slowly gaining again somhow so thats good. as long as i can at least hit 200 than i can work alittle more in on my next cycle. strenth is still awsome. squated 405 today cause my knee was feelin have descent. but after 3 squats i couldnt get it back up so i drop the weight on the safety bar. that kinda pissed me off. my stupid knee holds me back on leg days. i kinda feel like my deca might just be test. cause i never felt anything different kick in like i did in week 3. i thought it would get even more nuts on week 5-6 cause the deca. but never felt anything different from it. the coloring in the deca is realy close to the sus too, if that means anything. either way im getting stronger and bigger so i guess it dont matter. im gonna try a reputable lab though for my next cycle.
 
havnt got on here in alittle. same shit pretty much. im up to 198. so if i have a few more weeks maybe i can get to like 202-205 at the rate im going. im hopin 205. i think id like to be 210-215 with low BF somday but im afraid ill get there and still want more. theres a few suspicious people that i havent seen in alittle while that seen me this weekend and joke around telling me im juicin. haha im like naahhh man. no gyno for me thanks. im just doing this the healthy way.
i know time on should equal time off. is that including PCT? cause i would like to start my next cycle immidiatly 10 weeks after this cycle. and lost alittle of this fat and maybe gain a few more pounds. than ill take a much longer break before my next cycle. maybe like 1-2 at most a year. does anyone thing theres a problem with that?
 
Fatboy1984 said:
havnt got on here in alittle. same shit pretty much. im up to 198. so if i have a few more weeks maybe i can get to like 202-205 at the rate im going. im hopin 205. i think id like to be 210-215 with low BF somday but im afraid ill get there and still want more. theres a few suspicious people that i havent seen in alittle while that seen me this weekend and joke around telling me im juicin. haha im like naahhh man. no gyno for me thanks. im just doing this the healthy way.
i know time on should equal time off. is that including PCT? cause i would like to start my next cycle immidiatly 10 weeks after this cycle. and lost alittle of this fat and maybe gain a few more pounds. than ill take a much longer break before my next cycle. maybe like 1-2 at most a year. does anyone thing theres a problem with that?
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the best way to do steroids is to cycle them or stay on completely. But cycle it right which means allow enough time for you to recover so you can still make gains natty. I think youd be ok takin 10 weeks but the longer the better. If I wanted to do it right I wouldnt be able to cycle till December lol it sucks
 
Fatboy1984 said:
strength is good. Diet is the same as i posted awhile back on pages 1-3 but with an added huge turkey sandwich or qdoba chicken burrito just to up my cals 1000 more. Its the one only thing i eat thats not real clean. but im slowly gaining again somhow so thats good. as long as i can at least hit 200 than i can work alittle more in on my next cycle. strenth is still awsome. squated 405 today cause my knee was feelin have descent. but after 3 squats i couldnt get it back up so i drop the weight on the safety bar. that kinda pissed me off. my stupid knee holds me back on leg days. i kinda feel like my deca might just be test. cause i never felt anything different kick in like i did in week 3. i thought it would get even more nuts on week 5-6 cause the deca. but never felt anything different from it. the coloring in the deca is realy close to the sus too, if that means anything. either way im getting stronger and bigger so i guess it dont matter. im gonna try a reputable lab though for my next cycle.
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reputable lab...lol..your basing the deca being bunk because ya didnt have a different effect? only effect ya could feel is lowered sex drive..but not everyone even gets theat..i can run test deca and tren together and feel like a rapist...aas color varies with the oil used to make it..
 
HAYEZ said:
reputable lab...lol..your basing the deca being bunk because ya didnt have a different effect? only effect ya could feel is lowered sex drive..but not everyone even gets theat..i can run test deca and tren together and feel like a rapist...aas color varies with the oil used to make it..
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yeah i know. im pretty sure its good. i just dont know because its the only thing ive tried you know. but my sex drive actually has lowered some (i mentioned it some pages back) so i guess that propably is from the deca than. and i am continueing to grow. its just really slowed down alot. anyway im very happy with my gains so far anyway. ive gained alittle fat but i still look halfway descent for how much im eating. hows your cycle going hayez, lookin like hulk yet?

and gladiater i agree. im gonna do at least 10 weeks. but if i dont feel right or my blood test is off with anything ill fix it before starting the next cycle. but if everything is good in 10 weeks i think im ready to go again with tesp p, tren A, and propably anavar. i should also be doing some HGH buy than. people should think im juicin than huh.. haha?
 
Fatboy1984 said:
yeah i know. im pretty sure its good. i just dont know because its the only thing ive tried you know. but my sex drive actually has lowered some (i mentioned it some pages back) so i guess that propably is from the deca than. and i am continueing to grow. its just really slowed down alot. anyway im very happy with my gains so far anyway. ive gained alittle fat but i still look halfway descent for how much im eating. hows your cycle going hayez, lookin like hulk yet?

and gladiater i agree. im gonna do at least 10 weeks. but if i dont feel right or my blood test is off with anything ill fix it before starting the next cycle. but if everything is good in 10 weeks i think im ready to go again with tesp p, tren A, and propably anavar. i should also be doing some HGH buy than. people should think im juicin than huh.. haha?
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good job on the cycle bro. i am down to 190 so a total of 19lbs in my cycle but i got veins in my lower abs so its all good. my goal is 200lbs at 8% BF

make sure you get a blood test. im gonna get one post PCT to make sure. but yea a blood test will give you all the answers to whether you should cycle again or wait a little longer. tren and HGH might be a little too extreme at first, why not try dbol, halo, winny or eq first?

And definetly definetly definetly run a needto product to finish off your cycle, you will be amazed
 
yeah i started the tren tfo about 4-5 days ago. havnt noticed much from it (yet anyway) but i figured even if it helped keep BF down alittle during the cycle or gave me alittle more strength that it would be worth it.
thats awsome you got the viens in your lower abs. i had those once when i was really cut and it felt so awsome. maybe after my next cycle illhave them again and keep em for awhile.

im gonna start the hgh asap, and as long as sides arent too bad (im only gonna start with 2-3iu's ed) than i think im gonna go for the hardcore tren cycle. I just wanna do it so bad. i think ill try dbal my next bulker. sounds like it was awsome for you. i kinda ran this cycle first just to see how i react to everything. and i feel perfect besides the fucking gyno. so as long as i can get rid of that during PCT im good to go if my blood test is in check.

are you still eating as much as you were?
 
Fatboy1984 said:
yeah i know. im pretty sure its good. i just dont know because its the only thing ive tried you know. but my sex drive actually has lowered some (i mentioned it some pages back) so i guess that propably is from the deca than. and i am continueing to grow. its just really slowed down alot. anyway im very happy with my gains so far anyway. ive gained alittle fat but i still look halfway descent for how much im eating. hows your cycle going hayez, lookin like hulk yet?

and gladiater i agree. im gonna do at least 10 weeks. but if i dont feel right or my blood test is off with anything ill fix it before starting the next cycle. but if everything is good in 10 weeks i think im ready to go again with tesp p, tren A, and propably anavar. i should also be doing some HGH buy than. people should think im juicin than huh.. haha?
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after 8 weeks if ya grow any of anything be happy...cause usally there no gains after that..between 4-8 ios when ya explode then its all done..i dont come off but i still only cycle for 10 weeks then i go to hrt dose
 
HAYEZ said:
after 8 weeks if ya grow any of anything be happy...cause usally there no gains after that..between 4-8 ios when ya explode then its all done..i dont come off but i still only cycle for 10 weeks then i go to hrt dose
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not really true

week 9-10 was bad for me but week 11 and 12 when i was 3 weeks into katanadrol and still on 500mg test i got hella stronger and bigger
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
not really true

week 9-10 was bad for me but week 11 and 12 when i was 3 weeks into katanadrol and still on 500mg test i got hella stronger and bigger
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be haoppy then cause most people dont see gains after they peak
 
yea thats pretty true for me. I got to 195 without a problem. and it was all lean good muscle. today i finally weighed in at 200, but im feelin and lookin alittle softer. thats ok though. ill try and keep eating untill my next cycle. i definately am fighting for everypound now though. got acouple weeks left.
 
everythings been pretty good. when i do anything on a machines its almost always maxed out. im doing the 120 dumb bells for one armed rows and i could go heavier but thats all my gyms got. i can do the 120s for about 4-5 reps on flat bench and incline. for about 3 reps. squats is at 405 for a few reps but my knee is screwed up so ive been going alittle lighter and only maxin out on days it feels half way descent. deadlifts 315x6
got 245x5 on inline bench the other day so that was nice. and im gonna see what my one rep max is for flat bench today. oh yeah and yesterday i got 225x4 on the barbell shoulder press. i couldnt believe it.
 
Thats some big numbers mate sounds like your haven fun at the gym nowa days.:)

Brad.
 
yeah since im getting alittle pudgy bulking like this im triing to mostly focus on getting stronger. ill focus more on lookin better with my next cutter cycle. put up 300 on bench today. so im pretty happy with that. i just gotta get to 315 and than start reppin it and ill be smiling every chest day. liftin is definately better when you have goals that you eventually start to achieve
 
nice man. im hoping i can get to 315 soon. if not i will for sure on my next cycle.and hopfully get it a few times. i think i only got acouple shots left now. i decided not to extend the cycle. cause im kinda exited to get off. i just figure 2 more weeks on cycle equals at least for more weeks untill i get do my other one. and thats if blood work is in check.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
nice man. im hoping i can get to 315 soon. if not i will for sure on my next cycle.and hopfully get it a few times. i think i only got acouple shots left now. i decided not to extend the cycle. cause im kinda exited to get off. i just figure 2 more weeks on cycle equals at least for more weeks untill i get do my other one. and thats if blood work is in check.
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good thinking bro, stop it when you originally planned.

Only reason I extended mine is because I know I couldnt afford another cycle until December anyway LOL
 
Well i did my last shot yesterday (sucks) most weight i weighed in at was 201 butt naked after sittin in steam room for about 10 minutes. ( i always weigh myself after i do that for some reason)
im about to start 50mg clomid ED, forged PCT, sustain alpha. and my letro to get rid of these lumps hopfully.
anyone have recomendations on how to run it? oh yeah also gonna keep runnin a small dose of HCG untill the rest of mine is out.
 
yesterday i started my whole PCT. im doing 50 mg clomid for 2 weeks, 2.5 mg's letro (untill my bitch tits are gone) forged PCT, sustain alpha. Im feelin alittle crappier and have headaches on and off (i think from clomid) not to bad though. and my strength is still the same weight has dropped just alittle to 196. my gyno hasnt changed yet. anyone know when i should feel my lumps shrinking. Im really worried about them no going away.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
yesterday i started my whole PCT. im doing 50 mg clomid for 2 weeks, 2.5 mg's letro (untill my bitch tits are gone) forged PCT, sustain alpha. Im feelin alittle crappier and have headaches on and off (i think from clomid) not to bad though. and my strength is still the same weight has dropped just alittle to 196. my gyno hasnt changed yet. anyone know when i should feel my lumps shrinking. Im really worried about them no going away.
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hey bro howd u like the cycle?

I would do clomid@25mg for 4 weeks. Keep up the eating youll stay at 192+. not sure about the gyno
 
yeah i think im gonna lower it. thats what needto said to do too. it would propably get rid of the headaches too. yeah as long as i dont go below 190 ill be happy. and i really want to keep the stregth too. more is better though. im eating like a pig still so we'll see. What are you weighin in at now? how ya feelin?
 
Fatboy1984 said:
Well i did my last shot yesterday (sucks) most weight i weighed in at was 201 butt naked after sittin in steam room for about 10 minutes. ( i always weigh myself after i do that for some reason)
im about to start 50mg clomid ED, forged PCT, sustain alpha. and my letro to get rid of these lumps hopfully.
anyone have recomendations on how to run it? oh yeah also gonna keep runnin a small dose of HCG untill the rest of mine is out.
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hcg is suppressive stop using it
 
HAYEZ said:
hcg is suppressive stop using it
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idk why he said this just dont take it for hella long like 10weeks or more and dont take a lot at 1 time like 5000iu and youll be fine it raises estro but its not suppressive. It mimics the LH in your body but the clomid is restoring that as well as the sustain alpha

IM at 190. So i gained 19lbs total. NOt bad i knew most was water. I got tested for my bf% with digital calipers and im at 10% bf so im happy. Squats and deadlift strength keeps going up, probably because i just started being consistent with them since my cycle. My bench idk i did 225x15 then 315x1 10 days ago 2 days ago i did 225x12, 245x6, 275x2 so im not too sure. BUt im looking just as solid and im happy as hell! cleaned my diet up a bit too and upped the calories
 
HAYEZ said:
hcg is suppressive stop using it
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damn i didnt no that. I just did my last small shot anyway. I do think it paid off doing it during the cycle though cause my nuts never shrank up or anything.

and gladiator thats awsome your keeping your strength and most your gains man.
cant wait to be lean like you again though.
im sick of putting this sustain alpha on. i always feel sticky, but its propably helping even though i dont feel anything from it. I dont feel as bad as i thought i would during PCT. It could still get alittle worse. Today i weighed in at 198 again. so that was kinda cool. i dont really think ill go below like 194 if i keep eating like an animal.
 
You wont go down keep eating.

Youll get lean but youwant to have a good amount of muscle before you diet down and run and burn fat/muscle

dude i fucked up the sustain alpha. I have been doing it every other day because i hate doing that shit. Im taking 50mg clomid though, and it sucks. clomid sucks lol. im also taking UNLEASHED and aromasin 12.5mg e3d. I still have limpdick issues but well see. My chest strength went down but everything else went up.

Good job on the weight bro, you should be able to keep it youre already in PCT.
 
Still feelin good. weighted in at my lowest today though 194 so i ate like a pig all day. haha. Maybe i can keep 195. Either way i know im not gonna go below 190. since im almost 2 weeks into PCT.
Honestly before i started this cycle i was geting really discouraged with lifting and i just wasnt feeling it. I was just forcing myself to go inthere and push it. So far i seriously almost still feel like im doing this cycle. my energy is awsome in the gym and i dont crappy or anything. still get great pumps. Ive gained alittle vascularity. my gyno lumps are almost gone. Im very happy with my cycle. although this damn clomid is makin me feel emotion somtimes. I feel like criing everytime i hold my baby girl haha.

gladiator that sucks about your limpdick issues man. Ive had it before too from some stupid crap i took along time ago. Itll come back. i thought id be having the same problem cause the adex. i dont have a ton of sex drive, but i still think about it alot, and i can get it up whenever and cum and everything so im happy with that.

im hoping next cycle i can start reppin out 315 on bench. i hate being so close to a goal and not reaching it yet AAHHHH
 
Fatboy1984 said:
Still feelin good. weighted in at my lowest today though 194 so i ate like a pig all day. haha. Maybe i can keep 195. Either way i know im not gonna go below 190. since im almost 2 weeks into PCT.
Honestly before i started this cycle i was geting really discouraged with lifting and i just wasnt feeling it. I was just forcing myself to go inthere and push it. So far i seriously almost still feel like im doing this cycle. my energy is awsome in the gym and i dont crappy or anything. still get great pumps. Ive gained alittle vascularity. my gyno lumps are almost gone. Im very happy with my cycle. although this damn clomid is makin me feel emotion somtimes. I feel like criing everytime i hold my baby girl haha.

gladiator that sucks about your limpdick issues man. Ive had it before too from some stupid crap i took along time ago. Itll come back. i thought id be having the same problem cause the adex. i dont have a ton of sex drive, but i still think about it alot, and i can get it up whenever and cum and everything so im happy with that.

im hoping next cycle i can start reppin out 315 on bench. i hate being so close to a goal and not reaching it yet AAHHHH
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dude youll get there with the 315. I am doing a 5x5 i start week 2 on monday and i love it laready. I know im gonna make sick strength gains on this program!

btw i got UNLEASHED and it helped a lot with my sex drive. I had sex 3 times the other day so you know its goin good haha

clomid made me feel the same way. lol me and my girl were watchin tv with her sis and i asked her if the water bottle was hers, the sister said no and my girl got all upset and said why are you so lazy. i fuckin walked out and drove away LOL i feel like a bitch thinkin about it now but damn is that emotional or what, usually id be like chill the fuck out but i wouldnt get up and leave and make a scene. NEVER

glad you liked the cycle. and those gyno lumps are gone! good that would have been a mess if you kept them. I still get hella good pumps. Heres a recent pic i still kept a lot of size. highest i got to was 197 now im 189. So i lost 8lbs of water. still gained 19lbs

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a316/hehateme00000/036.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a316/hehateme00000/PCTweek3.jpg
 
ya you kept some size man, still lookin good. haha thats awsome you stormed out all pissed. When im doing somthing like that too im thinkin like, is this me or whatever im takin haha. I do notice im way cockier when im on the juice. right now i act alot more mellow in PCT. it really does change my personality. or like everything i believe in and have an oppinion about multiplies x100

Im not doing much different that the 5x5 program right now. But i think i might jump on that program for awhile to. Maybe ill do it right when i start my next cycle just to shock everything alittle more. i cant wait
 
Fatboy1984 said:
ya you kept some size man, still lookin good. haha thats awsome you stormed out all pissed. When im doing somthing like that too im thinkin like, is this me or whatever im takin haha. I do notice im way cockier when im on the juice. right now i act alot more mellow in PCT. it really does change my personality. or like everything i believe in and have an oppinion about multiplies x100

Im not doing much different that the 5x5 program right now. But i think i might jump on that program for awhile to. Maybe ill do it right when i start my next cycle just to shock everything alittle more. i cant wait
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haha definetly got emotional. I have been off clomid for a week or 2 and I feel a lot better. Actually I have been taking ephedrine and i have been so fuckin irritable, clomid had me way more emotional, and the test had me feeling like a beast. Fuck I cant wait to get back ON

You should try it. Squatting 3x a week will help obsst your GH and testosterone. I decided to wait until 6 weeks after because I knew my strength was gonnago down some and it would screw the whole program up. BUt my squat and deadlift have gone up a little and my bench has gone down but now its maintaining so im ready for it. Ill let you know how it goes for me
 
so whats your next cycle gonna be bro? You gonna try bulking again. Go for beast status so that when you walk into NorCal, stare down every other hard mother fucker there and watch 'em piss there pants.
 
slimjim1985 said:
so whats your next cycle gonna be bro? You gonna try bulking again. Go for beast status so that when you walk into NorCal, stare down every other hard mother fucker there and watch 'em piss there pants.
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lol exactly. i fuckin hate cali everyone thinks they are the greatest fighter or ur a pussy lolol wait till I'm 210 5'9" ripped that's my new fuckin goal right there
 
haha. Good thing im not in cali. I dont want to get the shit beat outa me.

weighed in at 194 today. im hoping this is my lowest weight. Still strong although i get wore out alittle easier. If im gonna lift somthing heavy i shouldnt do it at the end of my work out. still gettin good pumps too.

I would try the squating 3x week but im triing to let my knees heal up alittle right now. There def gettin better though. When there feelin upto it i would like to start that though.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
haha. Good thing im not in cali. I dont want to get the shit beat outa me.

weighed in at 194 today. im hoping this is my lowest weight. Still strong although i get wore out alittle easier. If im gonna lift somthing heavy i shouldnt do it at the end of my work out. still gettin good pumps too.

I would try the squating 3x week but im triing to let my knees heal up alittle right now. There def gettin better though. When there feelin upto it i would like to start that though.
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hahaha everyone thinks they are the bestest fighter in the world

yea it sucks coming off. Im surprised at how much I kept tho, you will be too for yourself. My strength has gone down just a little so im pretty happy. Im weighin 190 too so i kept 19lbs. i hope that the lowest i go

defiently try the 5x5 when your knees heal up! its awesoem for strength. IM starting week 3 tmr and im gettin closer to my maxes and i feel like ill be able to keep it up for 12 weeks. That would put 40-50lbs on my 3 compound lifts in 3 months, natural.

Im also takin jack3d, its aweseom stuff. clean energy and i was a lot stronger.
 
nice man. looks like were both doing pretty good than.
Im still feelin good in the gym. better than before my cycle actually. only have a few days left of .25 clomid and im done with this crap. a few more days of sustain too. I put the sustain on and than walk around naked in the house for about 15 minutes for it to dry. I hate thinkin its gonna just get wasted and obsorbed into my clothes. haha
wife thinks im nuts. still 194 got alittle bacne and thats clearing up now.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
nice man. looks like were both doing pretty good than.
Im still feelin good in the gym. better than before my cycle actually. only have a few days left of .25 clomid and im done with this crap. a few more days of sustain too. I put the sustain on and than walk around naked in the house for about 15 minutes for it to dry. I hate thinkin its gonna just get wasted and obsorbed into my clothes. haha
wife thinks im nuts. still 194 got alittle bacne and thats clearing up now.
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congrats on the weight gain. Yea the sustain alpha i did eod because i hated putting that shit on and not being able to lay down lol id always wait before bed
 
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