First cycle - Lemme know what you think...

[Vanmuscle]

Hey all,

I'm figuring out my first cycle, and would like some input from anybody who can help me out.
Some background... I'm 6'0", 192lbs, around 12%bf. 29 years old.
43-44chest, 32waist, and 16" biceps (unpumped, flexed). Been training seriously for 3.5 years now.
I do not want to get too bloated, and I would like to be able to get away with telling co-workers that I've just been bulking. Looking to gain a quality 10-15lbs, and hopefully lose some bf at the same time.
What I'm thinking right now is:

1-10 - 500mg Sust/wk, shots Monday, Thursday
1-10 - 400mg EQ/wk
7-12 - Winny, 75mg eod

post cycle clomid, nolvadex on hand, possibly liquidex to keep bloat down and gains hard, but not sure i'd need it on this cycle.

Lemme know what you guys think about this, and if my gains expectations are realistic.

Thanks guys,
Van

 

[Johnny Cut]

why dont u just run the test at 500mg/week and see how u do on that, i garuntee u will see some of the results u are looking for,....its all about the diet....

injections on Mon and Thurs are good, (thats what i normally do)

it allows u to take advantage of the prop ester in the sustanon...

...ldex works well with the test so bloat will be none or lil at best....

 

[02gixxersix]

why dont u just run the test at 500mg/week and see how u do on that, i garuntee u will see some of the results u are looking for,....its all about the diet....

injections on Mon and Thurs are good, (thats what i normally do)

it allows u to take advantage of the prop ester in the sustanon...

...ldex works well with the test so bloat will be none or lil at best.... [/QUOTE

exactly. You could tell your co-workers you're just bulking and they'll prolly believe you actually but you will gain a lot of weight off of a sus only cycle and its gonna be kinda obvious. Its funny how stupid people are about steroids. i tell everyone i just eat everything in sight and workout hard and most people believe me. Even funnier I had an argument with my friend about whether or not brock lesner and triple h are natural. He thinks yes lol just bc thats what they say in magazines. Again people are fuckin stupid.

 

[Stillgoing]

why dont u just run the test at 500mg/week and see how u do on that, i garuntee u will see some of the results u are looking for,....its all about the diet....

injections on Mon and Thurs are good, (thats what i normally do)

it allows u to take advantage of the prop ester in the sustanon...

...ldex works well with the test so bloat will be none or lil at best....

Agreed. No need whatsoever for winny in a first cycle. No need to go 900mg per week in first cycle. Go test only at 500mg.

 

[Vanmuscle]

Thanks for the advice so far, anybody else? I really want to take advantage of the fact this is my first cycle, and get the gains I can, and keep them.

Keep it coming guys.

 

[Johnny Cut]

the thing is most people gain their most during their first cycle cause it helps psh them to their genetic limits, i went from 165 to 200 lbs (bloated) but that was 6 months ago and now i am at 195 +- , I found that i wasnt hard to keep my gains, if u eat right, the key thing in keeping gains is diet

 

[Vanmuscle]

bump

 

[RipDsel]

If u already have the Eq, i'd say to run it...everyone's body reacts differently to AS. Personally i did a sust only, and gained about 12 pounds..decent but i was definately hoping for more and wish i woulda added some eq..but just like johnny cut said the key is in the diet....but if u do run the sust only u could maybe throw in a low dosage of Dbol and then run l-dex to keep bloat off just cause it'll take the sust a good 3-4 weeks to kick in.

good luck with whatever u decide bro

rip

 

[crsnavet]

I am running 500mg sust for 10 weeks, but I threw in 35mg ED dbol wks 1-5. Glad I did. I am in week2 so sust hasn't kicked in yet and I am already up 12 solid pounds. Not much bloat because I am on femera also.

Is your winny oral? I suggest 50mg ED maybe weeks 9-12. Winny is pretty harsh and 6 weeks is too long IMO

 

[C-Steele]

lemme? isn't he that guy in motorhead?

 

[Vanmuscle]

lemme? isn't he that guy in motorhead?

Shit, I think I've been reading too many message boards