First Cycle Help

[lee24yorkshire]

I am nearly ready now for my first cycle which is as follows

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 hcg 500 ius twice a week.
10-14 Clomid 25mg ed
10-14 HCGenerate 5 caps ed

The only thing im not too sure about is the hcg, do i use same size needles as for test? and wot is 500ius in ml?

Lee

 

[mrribbit]

I am nearly ready now for my first cycle which is as follows

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 hcg 500 ius twice a week.
10-14 Clomid 25mg ed
10-14 HCGenerate 5 caps ed

The only thing im not too sure about is the hcg, do i use same size needles as for test? and wot is 500ius in ml?

Lee

Ok first bro, what are your stats?

That looks good for a beginners cycle bro except I would lose the toxic clomid and replace it with Sustain Alpha from Pp. As for the Hcg, you wanna use slin pins aka diabetic needles. They're typically 28g @ a 1/2". 100 iu's is 1ml and 1ml = 1cc.
Clen I don't know about for a 1st cycle. Personally I would just stick with test for a 1st but everyone has a different opinion. Good luck bro!

 

[stevesmi]

first off good for you for waiting till your 303rd post to run a cycle. so many newbs make 10 posts and then want to run tren cycle

what is the purpose of using hcg in this cycle?

why not just go test and start hcgenerate week 8 and run it through PCT?

your PCT should start 2-3 weeks after your last injection once the test is gone from your system. unleashed, post cycle, continue the hcgenerate, small amount of clomid ED, formestane/stanza squirts

 

[downunder hunter]

I am nearly ready now for my first cycle which is as follows

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 hcg 500 ius twice a week.
10-14 Clomid 25mg ed
10-14 HCGenerate 5 caps ed

The only thing im not too sure about is the hcg, do i use same size needles as for test? and wot is 500ius in ml?

Lee

When you get hcg you have to mix an amp of powder with an amp of bacteriostatic water, it doesnt come with bac water you have to buy it seperate, if you get 5000 iu HCG mix it into 20ml lof bac water and you will have 250iu's per ml, some like to use a subq inject (in the subcataneous fat between skin and abs) this method needs a slin pin or IM injection where you use the same needle as your gear. Theory is it is absorbed better subq but I dont believ it makes much of a difference I use the IM method. 250iu's E4D is fine, no need to overdo it.

Leave the hcgenerate for PCT and start that 14 days after last inject, thow in some unleashed and your good!

Post up your stats but champ

 

[lee24yorkshire]

stats r 5'11" 175lbs 11% BF

 

[lee24yorkshire]

reason for hcg is to keep natural test levels up during cycle i always thought to start pct 2 week after last test inj but have been told otherwise some clarity would be appreciated as so many diff people have diff oppinions

Lee

 

[downunder hunter]

reason for hcg is to keep natural test levels up during cycle i always thought to start pct 2 week after last test inj but have been told otherwise some clarity would be appreciated as so many diff people have diff oppinions

Lee

Well its common sense really, you have to wait until the test clears your system before you can start recovery and PCT, by all means you can start the hcgenerate form your last inject though. but pct drugs like nolva, aromasin, clomid etc should be strated 14 days after

 

[BodyByTren]

Whats the need for HCG/clomid and the over the counter hcgenerat, whatever it is???

 

[downunder hunter]

Whats the need for HCG/clomid and the over the counter hcgenerat, whatever it is???

So what are you asking?? Is there a point running a PCT after a testosterone cycle??

 

[lee24yorkshire]

So id be better changing my cycle as follows?

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 [URL="http://rxhealthdrugs.com/brand/287/43/pregnyl-human-chorionic-gonadotropin"]hcg[/URL] 250 ius twice a week.
12-16 [URL="http://www.eclenbuterol.com/clomid-p193.html"]Clomid[/URL] 25mg ed
12-16 [URL="http://www.hcgenerate.com"]HCGenerate[/URL] 5 caps ed

 

[eClenbuterol]

So id be better changing my cycle as follows?

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 [URL="http://rxhealthdrugs.com/brand/287/43/pregnyl-human-chorionic-gonadotropin"]hcg[/URL] 250 ius twice a week.
12-16 [URL="http://www.eclenbuterol.com/clomid-p193.html"]Clomid[/URL] 25mg ed
12-16 [URL="http://www.hcgenerate.com"]HCGenerate[/URL] 5 caps ed

That looks good!

 

[lee24yorkshire]

will 2ml , 23g 1.25 inch syringes be ok for test injections?

Lee

 

[d_rson]

So id be better changing my cycle as follows?

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 [URL="http://rxhealthdrugs.com/brand/287/43/pregnyl-human-chorionic-gonadotropin"]hcg[/URL] 250 ius twice a week.
12-16 [URL="http://www.eclenbuterol.com/clomid-p193.html"]Clomid[/URL] 25mg ed
12-16 [URL="http://www.hcgenerate.com"]HCGenerate[/URL] 5 caps ed

HCG from week 3, not week 1.

Still recommend replacing clomid with sustain alpha and unleashed.

Do you have an AI for estrogen? Arimidex or Aromasin.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

will have adex on hand if needed, if i replace clomid with sustain alpha and unleashed would i just start takin them straight after last injection along with hcgenerate?

 

[joe d]

So id be better changing my cycle as follows?

1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week
1-10 [URL="http://rxhealthdrugs.com/brand/287/43/pregnyl-human-chorionic-gonadotropin"]hcg[/URL] 250 ius twice a week.
12-16 [URL="http://www.eclenbuterol.com/clomid-p193.html"]Clomid[/URL] 25mg ed
12-16 [URL="http://www.hcgenerate.com"]HCGenerate[/URL] 5 caps ed

that isnt bad but the clomid is to low. id do 100mg ed for at least the first week then drop it to 50mg ed for the rest of the pct. you should also run an ai through the whole cycle.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

wots the difference between a normal syringe and an insulin syringe?

 

[joe d]

the insulin pin measures in iu's. the "regular" pin measures ml's. the insulin pin is a short and very thin needle. its better for injecting watery liquids sub q.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

does the hcg have to be used within a certain time frame i.e when its mixed with the water will it be ok for the whole cycle or do u need to mix like a few weeks worth at a time?

 

[joe d]

does the hcg have to be used within a certain time frame i.e when its mixed with the water will it be ok for the whole cycle or do u need to mix like a few weeks worth at a time?

mix it in the lowest quantity you can with bac water (not the shit it came with). then pre load pins and refridgerate them in a brown paper bag. people have diferent stories on how long it takes to go bad. you will know if its not working.

 

[Nelson Montana]

that isnt bad but the clomid is to low. id do 100mg ed for at least the first week then drop it to 50mg ed for the rest of the pct. you should also run an ai through the whole cycle.

Joe and I will forever disagree on Clomid. However, it works for him. (One of the lucky ones). Nevertheless, I don't think 100mgs is ever necessary. And I would not recommend it throughout the cycle because of the rebound effect when stopped.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

how far is a safe measure to pull back wen aspirating?

Lee

 

[d_rson]

Until you get a small air pocket or bubbles.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

just checking i got an air bubble, what i thought it was but have been read it might not be just looked like one cos ov how it mixes with the test. anyway took my first inj bout half one and feel no diff so must of gone ok

Lee

 

[lee24yorkshire]

can i inject safely at the same site if its left to heal for a week?

Lee

 

[lee24yorkshire]

Im still unsure about how to mix this hcg with the ba water. The hcg is a 5000 i.u amp and i have a 30ml bottle of ba water, obviously im not goin to get much water in the amp and the hcg seems stuck to the bottom of the amp any directions would be greatly appreciated

Lee

 

[eClenbuterol]

Im still unsure about how to mix this hcg with the ba water. The hcg is a 5000 i.u amp and i have a 30ml bottle of ba water, obviously im not goin to get much water in the amp and the hcg seems stuck to the bottom of the amp any directions would be greatly appreciated

Lee

if you have a 5000IU ampule. That means if you add 1ml of BW you have 5000IU's in solution.

use a slin pin for injection and draw to 100 mark on the pin for 500IU's.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

so if i draw back to 50 on the needle i will get my 250ius injection amount? but that will be half a ml which means ill have half a ml left for another injection then it will be all gone surely that cant be right or ill be using 5000iu a week in hcg? im confused?

Lee

 

[lee24yorkshire]

can anyone shed any light on this subject?

Thanks

Lee

 

[lee24yorkshire]

if i draw 10ml of ba water and put 9ml into a vial, then put the remaining 1ml into the amp of hcg, draw that back out and add it to the vial i will have 10ml of hcg. I will be injecting 250ius so 50 on the syringe should give me that dosage have i got that right?

Lee

 

[d_rson]

Don' reconstitute in 10ml of BAC water. I don't understand why ANYONE does this. Just reconstitute in 1ml of BAC water and 5 units on the slin pin will be 250iu.

 

[lee24yorkshire]

cheers pal so its ok to inject a smaller but stronger dose?

 

[lee24yorkshire]

they'll hardly be anything in the syringe's tho if i split 1 ml up into 250ius doses will there?

Lee

 

[d_rson]

they'll hardly be anything in the syringe's tho if i split 1 ml up into 250ius doses will there?

Lee

Just use a 3/10s CC insulin pin - easy small subq inject.