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First cycle help

mish12345

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Hi, I plan to do my first injectable cycle very soon.

I did intend to do 500mg Test E p/week for 10 weeks but at the moment I can only get hold of Sust (the make is 'Karachi').

Should I just go for the sust? Its just I've read some places that Test E would be a better choice.

I plan to use Nolva for pct.

Thanks for any help guys
 
mish12345 said:
so testosterone enanthate isnt typically considered a 'better' choice?


Sustanon is a different acting test, it has 4 esters, 2 fast acting 2 slow acting.

A better test in my opinion you'll be just fine, make sure you have everything in order such as diet etc. you'll enjoy it so make the most of it Bro!

Best of results with the cycle!!!
 
sustanon will kick in faster, but need to shoot at least 3x per week to keep blood levels stable, so test e will do fine shoot 250mgs monday and same thursday, but will take at least 3-4 weeks to kick in , so while your waiting for it to kick in get some dbwalz run it 25-30mgs ed for the first 4 weeks till test kicks in , that way you will be more satisfied, just my 2c

peace
 
Sust has test E in it, along with 3 other esters. Personally I don't think it matters though. Results will be the same.
 
sustanon is a test blend, it has 4 esters. longand short acting esters sust will give you a kick start with the short acting esters so u will feel it sooner than just with enathate. as ur cycle progresses the long acting esters will build up n ur system. it would be best to inj twice per week to keep test levels from fluxuating. so 2 x 250mg shots per week, monday and thursday injs.

u prolly will want more than nolva for pct. derma sustain along with nolva and clomid, possibly hcg. needto is the pct man hopefully he will chime in.

best of luck
 
i'll need all that on hand will I?

most people i've got advice off have said that nolva should be all I will need on such a dosage (500mg/week)
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
sustanon will kick in faster, but need to shoot at least 3x per week to keep blood levels stable, so testosterone enanthate will do fine shoot 250mgs monday and same thursday, but will take at least 3-4 weeks to kick in , so while your waiting for it to kick in get some dbwalz run it 25-30mgs ed for the first 4 weeks till test kicks in , that way you will be more satisfied, just my 2c

peace

I've never heard that before?

Most people seem to recommend 2x a week
 
mish12345 said:
Hi, I plan to do my first injectable cycle very soon.

I did intend to do 500mg testosterone enanthate p/week for 10 weeks but at the moment I can only get hold of Sustanon (the make is 'Karachi').

Should I just go for the Sustanon? Its just I've read some places that Test E would be a better choice.

I plan to use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Thanks for any help guys
I think you should use 500ui's hcg ew for the last 6 weeks. 2 weeks after last shot use dermacrin sustain 5 pumps ed along with 25mg nolva ed for the 4 weeks.
http://www.primordialperformance.com/derm_sust_intro.cfm
 
mish12345 said:
I've never heard that before?

Most people seem to recommend 2x a week

Some people take it 3x a week because of the testosterone propionate in it. I personally think 2x a week is plenty. The testosterone propionate in Sustanon only makes up 12% of the total so the difference in 2x or 3x per week isn't going to have much of an effect on your blood levels.

To the original poster, I think Sustanon is a better first cycle choice simply because it naturally self-ramps to its max test and also self-tapers back down. It makes recovery for me a little easier. It's probably just going to be a personal preference.
 
sustanon is better for you considering its your first cycle. But you should throw an oral in for the first 4 weeks for an extra and immediate kick. Dbol should do the trick at 40 my ED
 
My personal choice is also sust. the reason being is that of the ester blend giving fast acting supply of test while also supplying a slower release of test; so basically u get the best of both worlds.

PCT: Nolva, clomid and HCG
 
do I really need hcg and clomid on top of the nolva on a dosage of just 500mg/week??

most people have advised me to just use nolva alone as pct
 
mish12345 said:
do I really need HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and clomid on top of the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on a dosage of just 500mg/week??

most people have advised me to just use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - alone as PCT - post cycle therapy -
You will find each have there own prefferance, Hell, theres another thread on Durma sustain only!!!!!!!!!!You have to find your grove is what ive figured out and read up Bro !
 
i ment to say take shots 2 times per week but anyways like everyone has been saying for pct everyone seems to have a different one and waht they like to use, like chris said.
 
mish12345 said:
do I really need HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and clomid on top of the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on a dosage of just 500mg/week??

most people have advised me to just use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - alone as PCT - post cycle therapy -


Good to see a new guy asking intelligent questions. Nolvadex is not enough for pct. Get some clomid and hcg and your golden. Use the nolva during cycle if necessary to block estrogen.
 
702daswoll1 said:
Good to see a new guy asking intelligent questions. Nolvadex is not enough for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Get some clomid and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and your golden. Use the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - during cycle if necessary to block estrogen.



10-5mgs a day all depending how you react! I would go with 5mgs myself until 10mgs was needed. Start with that then ramp it up if needed.


Good luck Bro!
 
702daswoll1 said:
Good to see a new guy asking intelligent questions. Nolvadex is not enough for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Get some clomid and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and your golden. Use the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - during cycle if necessary to block estrogen.
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