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First Cycle - Gimme some input :-)

ungbygger

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Hey!

Im planning my first cycle, and wanted some input on the gear/amounts used. Maybe also some experience if anyone has done a similar cycle.

PS: I know the doses is alot lower than many on this board, but i want to play it safe the first time.



Week1-2: Insulin , Starting with 1 units, working my way up to 12 units.(6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout).

Week-3-4:100mg Deca every third day + 12units Insulin ED (6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout) + ECA Stack (1-3 per day)

Week 5-10: 100mg Deca and one amp Winstrol Depot every third day. 12 IU insulin (6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout), ECA (1-3stk per day).

Week 11-17 2weeks on / 2 off with ECA and Clenbuterol ( Spiropent)
Clomid Week 14-17
300mg First day
200mg Second day
150mg Third day
Then 100mg for 7 days, 50mg for 7 days,and 50mg EOD until the end of week 17.

Is this a good first-timer cycle?

My goal is to add some pounds of detainable muscle, and shred off some fat :)


PS: The slin is fast acting made by "Novo Nordisk".
The Deca is WGLT Deca Durabolin 100mg/ml (good norwegian quality:-)
The Winstrol Depot i think is Zambon/Stromba?
 
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Save the slin for a bridge or when your off. I realy thing you need to do more research on it.

No need to shot deca more than 1 time per week(long ester)
And the winny needs to be shot EOD, ED, or drank twice a day!
 
Fuck no! Insulin is so far from what you need it isn't even amusing.
Try test - 400-500mg a week and d-bol 30-40mg per week. How about some stats too? Jebus.
 
Stats: 20 years old.
Been lifting for a bit more than a year. (i know i probably should wait a few years until i reaches my genetical limit etc.. but this cycle would have to wait another 6 months. I just wants to find the perfect cycle, and do alot of research on all the substances before trying them out).
192cm tall, about 235lbs, ( have dropped down from 280lbs the last 7 months).

Want to become mean and lean :-)

PS: The insulin was merely a suggestion from a friend of mine ho loves this stuff.. If i were to try it, i will also consult him/other users on this board / read _alot_ before i will try it.

Thanks for a great board!
 
You said your goal was to gain muscle and lose fat. Tren is absolutely the best AAS for that purpose. I would drop the insulin and deca and run 400mg Test E for 10 weeks and run tren at 75mg/ED for the last six weeks of your cycle.
 
ungbygger said:
Hey!

Im planning my first cycle, and wanted some input on the gear/amounts used. Maybe also some experience if anyone has done a similar cycle.

PS: I know the doses is alot lower than many on this board, but i want to play it safe the first time.



Week1-2: Insulin , Starting with 1 units, working my way up to 12 units.(6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout).

Week-3-4:100mg Deca every third day + 12units Insulin ED (6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout) + ECA Stack (1-3 per day)

Week 5-10: 100mg Deca and one amp Winstrol Depot every third day. 12 IU insulin (6IU 2x day, in the AM and after workout), ECA (1-3stk per day).

Week 11-17 2weeks on / 2 off with ECA and Clenbuterol ( Spiropent)
Clomid Week 14-17
300mg First day
200mg Second day
150mg Third day
Then 100mg for 7 days, 50mg for 7 days,and 50mg EOD until the end of week 17.

Is this a good first-timer cycle?

My goal is to add some pounds of detainable muscle, and shred off some fat :)


PS: The slin is fast acting made by "Novo Nordisk".
The Deca is WGLT Deca Durabolin 100mg/ml (good norwegian quality:-)
The Winstrol Depot i think is Zambon/Stromba?

wow, this is a mess, bro you might want to do some more reading before fucking with drugs

insulin on your first cycle?? why dont you take it all the way and fuck everything up and throw in some GH and t-3, oh never mind actually taking AS that would make scense, take your deca better yet spend a fortune on some primo too, or better yet masterone.......there dont you feel better now???

on the serious note

1) FORGET ABOUT SLIN, its not a beginer drug, nor is it necessary to make great gains, and is not recomended until you toped out your physique through exclusive use of AS

2) RUN TESTOSTERONE, say 500mg/week

3) forget about winny, you dont need it

4) run deca with your test

5) take anti estorgen or anti aromatise

putting it all together, very simple:

500mg/test/week
300-400mg/deca/week

all you need, add arimidex .5mg/ed or anti-estrogen like nolvadex perhaps at 10mg/ed

run clomid post cycle
 
Just finished my first cycle and loved the results:

Weeks 1-8 deca or eq 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 test enanth or cyp 500mg/week
Weeks 8-12 fina 75mg/ed
Start clomid therapy 3 days after stopping fina.

Keep some nolva on hand in case you get gyno symptoms, but I didn't get any.
 
gsxr said:
Just finished my first cycle and loved the results:

Weeks 1-8 deca or eq 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 test enanth or cyp 500mg/week
Weeks 8-12 fina 75mg/ed
Start clomid therapy 3 days after stopping fina.

Keep some nolva on hand in case you get gyno symptoms, but I didn't get any.


I am glad you liked it BUT thats a lot of gear for a first cycle UNLESS you where at your natural maximum lean weight before the cycle.

Ungbygger why don't you just try test cyp or enanthate at 500-600 per week. Or you could try 300 of test and 300 of nandrolone per week. Have nolva on hand.
I recommend loading doses on day one for these esters, especially deca. Try a double dose on day one of each. Run the cycle for 10 weeks and then be sure to use clomid properly.
Don't be afraid of the loading dose as they are very safe and far safer than using d-bol to kick start a cycle.

Best of luck
And leave the slin alone until you at the national level....it can kill you if you don't know excatly what you are doing...no shit I know as I am an RN.

RG
:)
 
I agree with muscle geek except also add EQ to that stack and you have yourself a winner! It will put size on you but at the same time you will be lean like a mutha. TEST/EQ/TREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:spin:
 
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