First cycle diet

[79steeler]

Getting ready to do my first cycle, and working on fine tuning my diet. I'm 5'10 205lbs.

My first cycle will be test c 250ml/twice a week, 10wks. I have all my pct. figured out, thank's for all your guy's help.

Diet: 6 meals a day and the numbers come out like this:

Protein: 344g Carbs: 262g fats: 59g Total calories: 3,560.

My question is do the above numbers look good to you guy's? It seems my carbs are a little low should I throw another potato and some extra oats to bring this up?

Lookin to bulk on this cycle, but not become a fat body.

 

[TBD 21]

Carbs need to be close to 2.5g/lb of body weight. Also, make sure you stay away form bad fats found in foods that have preservatives or that are fried. Good fats can be mainly found in fish. Don't stay away form fats to much though, it is true you need to put some fat into you to be turned into muscle. For Carbs try to maybe add a pasta dish to chicken or a salad meal you eat. This will increase your calories and put you a little closer to where you need to be at.
For you being over 200 pounds and wanting to add weight i would try to eat a little more.
This is my close estimate for some one at 200 pounds. 350g protein. 485g carbs.75g of fat. which will put you close to the 4,000-4,500 calorie range

To add protein, 8 oz of cottage cheese is a great way to boost your number. Alone thats about 30g of protein and you don't even feel like you at anything. For carbs 2 cups of past will add another 90g or carbs which is great for the small amount of pasta. If anything looks wrong please guys don't be scared to correct me.

 

[79steeler]

Thank's tbd 21. I'll add sum more carbs to my first four meals of the day, that should bring the numbers up and give me a good place to start.

Anyone else.

 

[GUARDIAN]

pay attention to the mirror if u start putting on fat too quick drop cals by 500 cals a day or up them by the same if u are not gaining anything.

 

[79steeler]

Thank's 8and 20.

 

[safety4lyfe]

pay attention to the mirror if u start putting on fat too quick drop cals by 500 cals a day or up them by the same if u are not gaining anything

yuuuup...if you start looking like a blob, cut them down. however, i would say if you start feeling like a fattie had in some cardio...at least 1 hour of cardio a week in your traget heart rate or some HIIT training. are you doing cardio?

how old are you, are you using weight gainer?...cause i would say thats not even enough cals

 

[st8grad]

Carbs need to be close to 2.5g/lb of body weight. Also, make sure you stay away form bad fats found in foods that have preservatives or that are fried. Good fats can be mainly found in fish. Don't stay away form fats to much though, it is true you need to put some fat into you to be turned into muscle. For Carbs try to maybe add a pasta dish to chicken or a salad meal you eat. This will increase your calories and put you a little closer to where you need to be at.
For you being over 200 pounds and wanting to add weight i would try to eat a little more.
This is my close estimate for some one at 200 pounds. 350g protein. 485g carbs.75g of fat. which will put you close to the 4,000-4,500 calorie range

To add protein, 8 oz of cottage cheese is a great way to boost your number. Alone thats about 30g of protein and you don't even feel like you at anything. For carbs 2 cups of past will add another 90g or carbs which is great for the small amount of pasta. If anything looks wrong please guys don't be scared to correct me.

485 grams of carbs? I know this is going with conventional wisdom, but that much would make anyone blow up like crazy. Again with lifting, you just aren't using that many carbs for energy.

I don't think his original 280+ was off. I would honestly add more healthful fats and bring up that number.

Fats are very underrated for energy, hormone production, growth etc, and too vilified for what was perceived as being bad for you. Especially on cycle, the good fats will keep that HDL up.

My advice is up the fats. Fish oil, almonds or pecans, some ANPB, olive oil, etc. Easy to do. Less bloating, less potential for fat gain, and you will look and feel better.

 

[st8grad]

Also, don't forget you body utilizes carbs much more efficiently in the post workout period. So aim for pre-workout carbs, post workout and then the meal following PWO.

But most lifters only don't really deplete glycogen stores by all that much. We are sort of brainwashed into high carbs but what has been held for so long as conventional wisdom.

By keeping those carbs normal you become more efficient at using protein and fats for energy. Using all three optimally will ensure energy, growth, and recovery.

 

[TBD 21]

485 grams of carbs? I know this is going with conventional wisdom, but that much would make anyone blow up like crazy. Again with lifting, you just aren't using that many carbs for energy.

I don't think his original 280+ was off. I would honestly add more healthful fats and bring up that number.

Fats are very underrated for energy, hormone production, growth etc, and too vilified for what was perceived as being bad for you. Especially on cycle, the good fats will keep that HDL up.

My advice is up the fats. Fish oil, almonds or pecans, some ANPB, olive oil, etc. Easy to do. Less bloating, less potential for fat gain, and you will look and feel better.

Yes it will make you "blow up",some muscle some fat, and i believe the purpose of his cycle is to add mass if you re-read his original post. There is nothing wrong with loading on weight that is not strictly muscle. Thats why there are different types of cycles and so many types of products out on the market. If there was only weight loss or weight gain products we would have average looking people. We have products used to build DENSE muscle which may not be the ripped cut look. Then we also have products that shred fat or bulk muscle, and cut down to a more defined "rock" look. Gaining pure muscle weight is near impossible. Sometimes you have to gain a little fat, then work hard to turn that into the great muscle you work so hard for and deserve.

I agree 100% though on your fats increase. Fish, certain types of nuts are all quality fats that can be used during and post workouts to help build muscle.

 

[DannoMight]

Personally I would consume at least 4500+cals per day to gain. You can also substitute carbs for good fats like peanut butter(all natty), olive oil, flax or fish oils if u like.

 

[st8grad]

Yes it will make you "blow up",some muscle some fat, and i believe the purpose of his cycle is to add mass if you re-read his original post. There is nothing wrong with loading on weight that is not strictly muscle. Thats why there are different types of cycles and so many types of products out on the market. If there was only weight loss or weight gain products we would have average looking people. We have products used to build DENSE muscle which may not be the ripped cut look. Then we also have products that shred fat or bulk muscle, and cut down to a more defined "rock" look. Gaining pure muscle weight is near impossible. Sometimes you have to gain a little fat, then work hard to turn that into the great muscle you work so hard for and deserve.

I agree 100% though on your fats increase. Fish, certain types of nuts are all quality fats that can be used during and post workouts to help build muscle.

True. However, my thought was that bulking up would still be handled by the overage in calories. Staying at his original carb level, while increasing fat, would help him avoid extra: water weight, inflammation, and elevated LDL levels.

Also it could allow him to get more calories in without being as stuffed. It's probably easier to eat a hand full of almonds or so than a whole potato.

Bear in mind I never said to lower the carbs and 280 should be plenty. Now if he were lifting 4 days per week and doing 1 hour of cardio 5-6 days per week, maybe an increase in carbs would be prudent.

Just an opinion.

 

[jumpmaster82]

If you start to blob and decide to cut the cals by 500 it will help. But you can get by keeping the carbs the same just don't eat any 3 or 4 hours before bed.