First Cycle Debate

[genarr3]

i dont disagree that dbol will add to the cycle in fact i love the stuff. but for a first cycle i would consider a few things. if you have any sort of bad reaction to either compound how will you know which one it was. also at 500mg of enan alone you are going to blow up, add the dbol and you could add an additional 10 lbs to the whole cycle but a month after your cycle you will more than likely be the same weight and lbm as you would be from enan only. i add several different compounds to my cycles these days but thats because i know how my body responds to them and often one compound just doesnt seem to do it anymore. i think first cycles should always consist of one drug. just my thoughts
foo

Good advice. I'll add the "virgin receptors nonsense" is gym myth bullshit.
If you use the test and Dianabol at the same time and lets say your starting to feel gyno symptoms what are you going to do? You won't know what's causing it. You'll just have to use the scatter gun approach and with that never learn how your body reacts to different compounds.

500mg/week of test is plenty for a first cycle. If you can't gain on that you're doing something wrong.

 

[Tricepratus]

For me the approach that you will do, Dbol for only 4 weeks and rest of cycle test, is good. You are using the fast acting property of Dbol for "kick start" and then the long acting of test. I think that the first cycle must be made with test like base. This the better compound to see and feel gains almost quickly, for it anabolic and same time androgenic property, in that way when you see results you will be more motivate to keep training and at gym. The addittion Dbol, but for only 4 weeks, this is a very strong AAS, will keep the gains better.

 

[DTOX]

people don't need to be doing almost 1 gram/wk of juice for a first cycle...

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Hmmm.....

Sounds like whoever is going to sell it to you wants to make some money!!! Before you get brainwashed into thinking you need to take more A.S. then your body needs ask yourself this...How much is your friend or source gonna make off you? That's the case a lot of times with the newbies. I.M.O i wouldn't go higher than 500 MG/Test for the 1st cycle each week and i'd prolly keep it as simple as possible to see how your body will react. Maybe you will blow up with that amount, maybe you will have problems...depending on your body physiology and genetics!!! Good luck with your choice.... ~JT~

 

[jonnydjonnyd]

what about if you are already big? im 240 and just started 750mg test, 300mg deca and 30mg d-bol. After reading the dosages of other guys my size, i dont think 500mg would be enough for the gains im looking for

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Well...

Yes u may be a big fella but no it does not mean u cannot gain the same amount as anybody else with a 1st cycle of 500mgs/test. In layman terms the body produces a certain amount of test each day and week and when u add test of coarse you are going to see a difference in gains. Adding too much though is just going to raise the probility of worsened side effects not to mention if u ever decide to do another cycle and your body needs more and more test as it adapts just to get similar gains i huess that would suck. I.M.O i'd go with the lowest amount of test it takes for an individual to make nice gains and save the higher amounts for future cycles to keep your body in the healthiest form possible!!

 

[Texas Ranger]

I agree!!