First Cycle Critique, Suggestions? (Adding Prohormone?)

[lifteatsleeprepeat]

Hey guys first of all I am a 21 year old I have been training since I was 17, taking it seriously the last 14 months, I am looking at doing my first cycle of Test Enanthate 500mg (Pinning 250 2x Week), Stats are

Height : 6ft 5 (195cm)
Weight: ~100kg @11ish% bodyfat (im cutting atm down from 15%)

Goals: Im in the middle of my cut and feeling a bit small, would like to run this cycle gain 10lbs of quality mass (more if possible) without gaining too much BF%, if any, and then PCT and resume my cut with more mass on my frame Ive also just considering running a pro hormone like Helladrol (similar to the way people use D-Bol, which i cannot get, would adding this for the first 4-6 weeks be beneficial as a kicker?)

Cycle Plan

Week 1 - 12 Test Enanthate (Primoteston) 500mg/Week Pinning 250 Monday/Thursday
Week 1 - 4 Helladrol 50mg-75mg ED

PCT

Week 14-18 Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Cannot source HCG otherwise I would run it, though I think Nolva/Clomid will allow me to recover effectivly.

Planning on eating around 4250 Calories (lean bulk) of clean foods 350g prot, 500g carbs, 70g fat etc aim for around 1.5 lbs a week. Cardio once or twice a week for heart health. I have a diet planned out to suit these macro/calorie goals.

Would I be able to get away with running the test out to 14-16 weeks and recover? Im going to have to buy 30mL anyway so ill have left over might as well use it, if i can that is.

Thanks guys Constructive criticism welcome and appreciated

 

[lifteatsleeprepeat]

anyone?

 

[bonacris]

You're 21 so that's too young too be running AAS..

I know you will ignore this so I'll help you a little bit so you don't fuck up..

1st answer these few questions.

What are you using on cycle to prevent shut down and atrophy?

What AI are you using?

Do you know what nolva and Clomid do?

If you use helladrol what will you he taking to help you liver?

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[lifteatsleeprepeat]

thanks for the reply,

i am unable to souce any HCG to prevent atrophy, but many forums i have read have stated that recovery from such a simple cycle will be fine using the SERMS i have chosen.

i forgot to mention that i will be using either arimidex or aromasin as my AI i already have that planned out (i will start with .25 eod and adjust as i need to)

my understanding is clomid and nolvadex (SERMS) that block eostrogen by binding to the receptor and stops estrogen from having estrogen effects. and helps to raise the leautinisng hormone to bring back natural test production (which will obviously be shutdown when synthetic test is introduced to the body).

as far as the source where i will get helladrol (online) says it is not liver toxic, but if i need to i can use milk thistle or a liver support sup from their site

does this cycle look okay? hopefully starting in the next week or two

 

[bonacris]

Get Hcgenerate from Mr supps.. that will keep the balls juicy and stop you getting shut down also those two serms don't promote test production.. they crush estrogen so you will have no natural test production and no estrogen (which is a bad thing, we need a certain amount) also you set your self up for estrogen rebound after.. do a bit more research on pct, especially this forum because nolva and Clomid are old school demand you will feel like a bag of boiled shit with these drugs

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[buddhabuilder]

Keep a first cycle simple. You have virgin receptors and they will get more than enough from the test e. Plus, you will know what the culprit is if you get any unwanted sides.

Weeks
7-12 HCGenerate
13-18 Forma Stanzol
15-18 Clomid 25/25/25/25 (Mr Supps)
15-18 Test Infusion (Mr Supps)
15-18 DAA Power Chews

 

[rspnp66]

Too young, dude

 

[Jbranken]

You have more room to grow natural at your age and only 14 solid months of training but hey whatever.

Remember that adex and stane are not dosed the same, not sure which you'll go with. Also, nolva does nothing to recover LH as you claim. Clomid does though.

 

[EZ_E]

You have done some research and seem to have a good attitude (rare from a new guy)

I would agree and say you need to train a little longer and be a little older....the diet and training forums on here will help as well

 

[lifteatsleeprepeat]

I was under the impression that Nolva and Clomid was fine for PCT? I wont be using either of these ON cycle but wait for the esthers to leave after my lasdt pin (2 weeks on enanthate i beleive) and then start dosing the SERM's isnt that the standard approach to a simple PCT phase? arimidex (anastrozole) i will use on cycle and through pct if needed (not so worried about water and acne, more worried about gyno so i will only use this if nips become irritated), is HCGenerate enough to keep LH up form 500mg of test? i dont like the idea of using OTC products for a Non-OTC product, fair enough to use those things with a pro hormone but not an actual steroid that i will be running for 12 possibly 16 weeks.