First Cycle - any advise???

[rayden]

1 - Age - 32
2 - Lifting History - 7 years (3 hard)
3 - Height - 5'9"
4 - Weight - 184 lbs
5 - Estimated BF% - 18%
6 - Diet - eating a lot
7 - Goals - obtain BF of 10% or less & maintain muscle mass
8 - Proposed cycle - Wk 1-10 - 400mg DECA
Wk 1-10 - 500mg SUST 250
Wk 1-4 - 40mg of DBOL
I am also going to cycle in Proviron as well.
I will also have Novaldex on Hand
PCT - CLOMID

 

[trinidad]

That's a good cycle but I wouldn't run 3 compounds together for a 1st cycle. I'd drop the deca and see how my body reacts to a test cycle. You can achieve your goals with that alone and the bf % will depend on your eating and cardio.

 

[Makavelli]

Looks good. Just be sure to have another AI on hand in addition to the Proviron.

 

[Its All Genetics]

first cycle i would recmond this if ur trying to cut up....
sust 250 1cc shot every monday thurs week 1-10
winny 5-10
proviron ED

proper pct


and do some heavier cardio to get that bodyfat a little lower before the cycle starts

jmho

 

[Stryker1992]

I agree, the doses are a bit high and too much stuff for the first cycle. Cut the test down to 250

 

[asianlover]

don't used dbol is u want to loose weight. that won't make it easy.

 

[boops]

ehhhh so many responses and whos right, well bro ill tell ya we may ALL be right...this stuff isnt really exact save for the way we can increase the levels of hormones in the body and do it in such a manner so they go up evenly which in turn helps to lessen the sides....that being said if it were me and my first cycle i would pick one compound, whatever that is, and run that so i can see how i react and then stack from there....but youll get answers from both camps here stack or dont stack, it all comes down to what your goals are and if they are reasonable how can you get to them in the safest possible manner...no matter what you do goodluck and if need be ask more questions.......

ps i ran winny for my first cycle for 8 weeks and (dont tell the stack happy people) i was quite happy with what i got out of it

 

[muchmass]

this cycle is a bit strong for the first cycle, I would just use the sust at 500mg a week (2x250), it will show you how your body will react to AS

but if you decide to keep deca, then forget the dbol it will make it hard to cut

 

[bnutty187]

Here I come sounding like a broken record but you really need to make sure 1 that you like the way you feel on AAS and if you don't it might just be one compound and ruin others for you and 2 you don't know your reaction's yet. I'm still keeping my cycles pretty simple and I'm getting ready for my 4th. This is not something you want to screw up, slow and steady is the name of the game because if you do react weird to something or start out to high you want to be able to have the experience to adjust what you need.

Start with like just the sust and 500/wk and if I was trying to cut i would definately not go dbol, maybe something like good ol' Tbol (damn this stuff got really popular real quick).

MHO would be a 40mg Tbol wks 1-4 and sust 500mg for 10 weeks. Also I know you are planning on it but don't start cycle until you have everything you need just in case.

 

[Bruce]

and get your bf to 15% lower preferably

 

[rayden]

Thans Guys ! ! That's alot of info....to consider. I'll cut out the D-Bol, since it might be harder to cut afterwards. Saying that, I'll probably stack deca & Sust.

I'll keep you guys posted on the progress.

I'll link up some b4 pics for you guys !


Thanks !

 

[asianlover]

is this your first cycle?

 

[bigtravis]

do about a good 8 week run of 500mg. of test. and during that time diet and cardio real good to get the % down. the extra test. in your body will help get it down also. then go for a triple run.

 

[asianlover]

id say drop the deca if you are trying to cut. you can use just test and adex. i know that, for me, with adex i get no estro sides and it also makes it easier to cut. i guess you could use proviron instead of adex but i've never used it so i can't help you on that. if you insist on adding another compound id say go with eq instead of deca. and use more than clomid for pct. i'd say clomid, nolva, and hcg.

 

[krisco]

do about a good 8 week run of 500mg. of test. and during that time diet and cardio real good to get the % down. the extra test. in your body will help get it down also. then go for a triple run.

hey there,
I don't want to sound like an a-hole, I,m just a fellow freak tryin to get BIG but with sustenon doesn't one want to run it at least 10-12 wks. to get at least a good solid gain from it.You hear about alot of people not really gaining weight or strength until wk 4-6 (myself included)
Personally i'll never do sust. again. to much fluctuation in test levels but on the other hand it's good and light for someone gettin there feet wet.
I had littile to NO sides from it.
*KRISCO*

 

[boops]

hey there,
I don't want to sound like an a-hole, I,m just a fellow freak tryin to get BIG but with sustenon doesn't one want to run it at least 10-12 wks. to get at least a good solid gain from it.You hear about alot of people not really gaining weight or strength until wk 4-6 (myself included)
Personally i'll never do sust. again. to much fluctuation in test levels but on the other hand it's good and light for someone gettin there feet wet.
I had littile to NO sides from it.
*KRISCO*

thats something cuz fluctuation in test levels or hormones in general is what causes ALOT of sides......in my opinion your best served running something such as sust daily, that being said ill stick to a single ester everytime....

 

[asianlover]

hey there,
I don't want to sound like an a-hole, I,m just a fellow freak tryin to get BIG but with sustenon doesn't one want to run it at least 10-12 wks. to get at least a good solid gain from it.You hear about alot of people not really gaining weight or strength until wk 4-6 (myself included)
Personally i'll never do sust. again. to much fluctuation in test levels but on the other hand it's good and light for someone gettin there feet wet.
I had littile to NO sides from it.
*KRISCO*

imo sust needs to be ran eod. if you run it like that it kicks in fast and you get good size and strength gains with very minimal sides. at least thats my experience with it.

 

[RADAR]

Why oh why does everyone want to do sus is beyond me , i prefer test Ethanhate, or cyp more stable blood levels plus you won't break out with acne as bad.
1 inj of 250 on mon and another 0n thurs will keep those levels stable
run it 10 weeks thats a total of 2 vials
see how you react to that before you start complicating things by mixing another compound
easier to combat side effects if you run into a problem

RADAR

 

[Maxx Out]

That's a good cycle but I wouldn't run 3 compounds together for a 1st cycle. I'd drop the deca and see how my body reacts to a test cycle. You can achieve your goals with that alone and the bf % will depend on your eating and cardio.

Solid advice bro!