First cycle, any advice would be welcome!

[Football182]

week 1: 500 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 2: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 3: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 4: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 5: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin
week 6: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin
week 7: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin
week 8: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg deca durabolin

thats what im thinking about doing, any advice on it?
I also have 5000 i.u. of HCG and 30 20mg pills of nolva and i also have milk thistle for my liver, whats the best way to take these for PCT?
Thanks for the help

 

[Cal_21]

The var seems a lil low.

 

[Cal_21]

p.s. usually guys recommend running Dec.a for a lot longer than that to get "the full benefits"

 

[needtogetaas]

Ever doen a cycle? how old are you? stats?

 

[Football182]

no ive never done a cycle, im 20 years old, 198 lbs and 15% body fat

 

[xrsist]

no need for a cycle at this stage mate
whats your current diet like? thats the most important part of any fitness program
whats your training look like day to day?
the more info you give us the more we can give you

 

[Football182]

ive been working out heavy since i was 14, im 5 feet 11 inches tall, weigh 198lbs, 15% bodyfat and im eating about 2500-3000 calories a day, sometimes a little more on leg days. I work out 4 days a week and run 3 days a week. Monday-chest tuesday biceps,triceps wednesdays i sprint thursday-legs friday-shoulders,back saturday and sundays i sprint some more. I've been taking protein and creatine shakes since I was 15. As of right now though im just stagnating, havent gotten any gains in the last couple months, im sitting at a solid 315x2 for bench and 450x1 for squat. I lift heavy and work hard but just cant seem to the size or strength i want. I've been looking at steroids and doing research since i was 18. I even wrote my 10 page reseach paper that i needed to do to graduate high school on steroids haha.

 

[rfowler]

week 1: 500 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 2: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 3: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 4: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin and 20 mg of anavar
week 5: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin
week 6: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin
week 7: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin
week 8: 250 mg sustanon 250 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin

thats what im thinking about doing, any advice on it?
I also have 5000 i.u. of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and 30 20mg pills of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and i also have milk thistle for my liver, whats the best way to take these for PCT - post cycle therapy - ?
Thanks for the help

my first cycle at that age was no where near this researched. I dont advocate steroid use but if your going to do it anyway its a decent little cycle I would run atleast 10 weeks.

 

[Football182]

but you can only get so much info from books, doctors and the internet. So i want some real advice from people who have actually taken them and who arent payed to promote certain products and such.

 

[rfowler]

but you can only get so much info from books, doctors and the internet. So i want some real advice from people who have actually taken them and who arent payed to promote certain products and such.

dude you arent going to get any of that here because the people on here that products only back shit that works. There are no scammers welcome on this board. there is a wealth of knowledge on here. most people on here have done a decca test cycle, and many believe it to be strong first cycle, however you can learn from the vets. Decca can make you start to lactate did you know that? Nolva is terrible to take with decca, so you already have a problem sinc eyou dont have anything for progesterone enduced gyno.

 

[thebadguy54]

ive been working out heavy since i was 14, im 5 feet 11 inches tall, weigh 198lbs, 15% bodyfat and im eating about 2500-3000 calories a day, sometimes a little more on leg days. I work out 4 days a week and run 3 days a week. Monday-chest tuesday biceps,triceps wednesdays i sprint thursday-legs friday-shoulders,back saturday and sundays i sprint some more. I've been taking protein and creatine shakes since I was 15. As of right now though im just stagnating, havent gotten any gains in the last couple months, im sitting at a solid 315x2 for bench and 450x1 for squat. I lift heavy and work hard but just cant seem to the size or strength i want. I've been looking at steroids and doing research since i was 18. I even wrote my 10 page reseach paper that i needed to do to graduate high school on steroids haha.

Your weight and BF% is decent for your age/height so it seems like you've done a fair amount of work in the gym, but my opinion is that you shouldn't use steroids yet. You are nowhere close to your natural limit. Aim for 220lbs. then juice your heart out bro.

Try changing your program and increasing your calories for a while. I also started working out at 15 and I made gains naturally until I was 25 (at least). Slow and steady is the healthy way... and the best way to KEEP your gains.

If you choose not to follow my advice and use steroids anyway, then just go with 10 weeks of testosterone enanthate at 400-500mg EW. Stay away from De.ca for now.

 

[alexl2]

Run the deca for 10 weeks and the test for 12.

If i were you tho i would just do test e at 500mg/w for 10-12 weeks and save the deca for a later cycle.

 

[smtimelevi]

Loose the sus unless you want to inject 2-3 times a week + whatever else is in the cycle. Try 400-500 mg of of cyp or enanthate, its a more steady than sus. I think deca is fine unless your body is crazy prog sensetive. I've done several test and deca cycles and never lactated. hahahah

Loose the var, it's not enough anyway. Think about doin some pct also.

But honest opinion your stats are good, seems you know what to do in the gym. Try uppin cals for a little while, use a 5x5 or some thin. Change your routine and look into a few different training programs first.

 

[Brewers17]

If you're like I was on my first cycle then you're pretty eager to start so waiting on different supps like you need to is probably not going to happen. I suggest since this is your first cycle that you drop the anavar and Dec@ and run the sustanon for 10 weeks @ 500mg per week (1ml shots mon and thurs). This is not the best option because it wont take full advantage of the testosterone propionate but considering your age and the fact that this is your first cycle you should gain and keep a solid 10-15lbs as I did when I ran same cycle for my first.

For P C T start nolvadex @ 20mg ed three weeks after your last shot for atleast four weeks and dont count calories, just stuff yourself till you cant take anymore and then shove in some more.

Side note* probably wont need the H C G for such a light cycle but some bros swear by it. Never used it myself, but thats no reason not to use it if you got it. Run it at 250ius 2x week for weeks 3-10. Cheers bro.