First cycle - anavar

[yuppyguitar]

50mg/day - 8 weeks . 28 yrs old, 175lbs, 15% bf, 13 yrs lifting natural

Day 3 - nothing terribly interesting to report. I actually feel slightly weaker than normal, and get calf pumps just from standing or walking. Jogging more than 10 minutes is painful. Did full squats and DL today and my flexed thighs feel like rocks.

Recently finished a cyclic keto diet for 2.5 months @ 2000 cals / day, dropped 20 or so lbs, mostly fat, and lost about 15lbs on my bench. Now I'm doing around 3300 cals / day with 300 grams protein. Quite strange going from shitting twice a week to twice a day. The salads definitely help. Despite the huge change in cals my bodyweight is not going up as fast as I would expect, which is good because I was worried I might be putting on some fat.

I felt quite strange mentally this morning. I think I may have overloaded on supps or perhaps some mild food poisoning (30mg anavar, 2 caps silymarin, 1 animal pak, 2 caps joint formula, 1 freeze-dried acidophilus cap, 6 egg whites, 80g oatmeal). I'm going to swap a multivitamin for the animal pak and see what happens. I was getting the sweats and feeling close to vomiting and had what I would describe as a mental haze or fog. Looking forward to week 3.

 

[zedhed]

Hey yupp gr8 start up there.
Would you please also post up your workout?
Looking forward to your next post up bro.

 

[yuppyguitar]

Ah it was you. I ended up going with the madcow intermediate routine you recommended. So far I'm kind of shocked how quick the workouts are, usually 45 minutes and I'm done. Here's the table, slightly legible. My bench is obviously the weakest, so I'm hoping this cycle will get me repping 2 plates.


Week
Day Exercise Reps 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 11 12
Monday Squat 5 135 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 180
5 170 170 180 180 190 190 195 200 205 210 215 220
5 205 205 215 220 225 230 235 240 250 250 260 265
5 235 240 250 255 265 265 275 280 290 295 300 310
5 270 275 285 290 300 305 315 320 330 335 345 355

Bench 5 95 100 100 105 105 110 110 115 115 120 125 125
5 120 120 125 130 130 135 140 140 145 145 155 155
5 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185 190
5 165 170 175 180 185 190 195 195 200 205 215 220
5 190 195 200 205 210 215 220 225 230 235 245 250

Row 5 95 95 100 100 105 105 110 110 115 115 120 125
5 115 120 120 125 130 130 135 140 140 145 145 155
5 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185
5 160 165 170 175 180 185 190 195 195 200 205 215
5 185 190 195 200 205 210 215 220 225 230 235 245

Wednesday Squat 5 135 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 180
5 170 170 180 180 190 190 195 200 205 210 215 220
5 205 205 215 220 225 230 235 240 250 250 260 265
5 205 205 215 220 225 230 235 240 250 250 260 265

Press 5 80 80 80 85 90 90 90 95 95 95 100 105
5 95 100 100 100 105 105 110 115 115 115 120 125
5 110 115 115 120 125 125 125 130 130 135 140 145
5 125 130 130 135 140 140 145 150 150 155 160 165

Deadlift 5 205 210 215 220 225 230 235 240 245 255 260 265
5 245 250 255 265 270 280 280 290 295 305 310 320
5 285 295 300 305 315 325 330 335 345 355 365 370
5 325 335 340 350 360 370 375 385 395 405 415 425

Friday Squat 5 135 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 180
5 170 170 180 180 190 190 195 200 205 210 215 220
5 205 205 215 220 225 230 235 240 250 250 260 265
5 235 240 250 255 265 265 275 280 290 295 300 310
3 275 285 290 300 305 315 320 330 335 345 355 365
8 205 205 215 220 225 230 235 240 250 250 260 265

Bench 5 95 100 100 105 105 110 110 115 115 120 125 125
5 120 120 125 130 130 135 140 140 145 145 155 155
5 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185 190
5 165 170 175 180 185 190 195 195 200 205 215 220
3 195 200 205 210 215 220 225 230 235 245 250 255
8 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185 190

Row 5 95 95 100 100 105 105 110 110 115 115 120 125
5 115 120 120 125 130 130 135 140 140 145 145 155
5 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185
5 160 165 170 175 180 185 190 195 195 200 205 215
3 190 195 200 205 210 215 220 225 230 235 245 250
8 140 145 145 150 155 160 160 165 170 175 175 185

 

[johnnyrockit8665]

Damn I got dizzy as shit trying to read that lol just playin looks good. good luck with your cycle

 

[zedhed]

Bro good for posting your workout but dam dude...can ya make it a little bit better for us plz?

 

[yuppyguitar]

Day 9 - evening

Strength is increasing steadily, but nothing amazing to report yet. I wouldn't be posting this if it were not for what I am about to report.

Today is day 9. Since day 6, I've noticed puffy nipples. Each day it has gotten progressively more noticeable. This evening they have started to feel more sensitive, similar feeling to a jersey chaffing on nipples after a long run, but more subtle. Nothing hard, more soft like fat or water retention.

I've been on hcgenerate since day 1. I increased the dose from 3 to 5 caps from day 7. I'm guessing my symptom is either the increased free test from hcgen, or the one of the non-T hormones that anavar indirectly affects, since anavar cannot aromatize directly. Which is the more likely culprit? I'm going to drop the hcgen for a few days and see what happens. I have some nolva on hand, but if the symptom is due to one of the non-T hormones (IGF, prog, prolactin, etc), I've read nolva can exacerbate it, so I want to hold off on that for now.

 

[yuppyguitar]

Day 10 - evening

I dropped the hcgen this morning. Was feeling nervous all day and nipples still sensitive. When I got home after working out the puffiness seems to have gone down and they aren't sensitive, but it may be too soon to blame it on the hcgen, and I'm staying cautious. What a scare. Any hcgen experts out there? My understanding is fadogia agrestis works by reducing your SHBG, thus increasing free test. So is it then possible for increased free test to aromatise and cause gyno? Given I'm on anavar, I haven't been taking any AI.

On a brighter note, did some DL's today, heaviest set was very easy. Its hard to judge if it was completely due to strength, since I'm accustomed to sets of 8 reps, and switched to doing sets of 5 reps for the cycle. I've also changed my form. Previously I'd touch and go between reps, or almost touch before starting the next rep. Now between reps I let the weight come to complete rest on the floor before starting the next rep. The accompanying writeup for the madcow routine I'm using recommends this style for a complete range of motion, which makes sense, however, it does allow one to rest and get a bit more energy before starting the next rep, so its harder for me to judge my strength now against how I previously felt while doing dead lifts.

I also feel like I'm putting on weight too fast. Almost 8 lbs so far and I'm only halfway into week 2. I only have top 2 abs now, which kinda sucks after 2.5 months of strict dieting. At the same time, I'm only taking in around 3000-3300 calories / day and 30 minutes of cardio twice a week. Guess I could dial it down another 300 calories and increase the cardio and see what happens. I really loved the veiny striated look I had 2 weeks ago and I've heard anavar makes the pumps even more pronounced. My cycle goal is to increase lean mass and strength while keeping fat gain minimal.

 

[zedhed]

Hey bro,
You really should have an AI on hand. All of these compounds affect everybody differently.
I would not decrease your cal intake. It sounds like you are doing very well right now. You need fuel to build muscle on.
Would like to see your workout bro.

 

[yuppyguitar]

As for my workout, its in my 2nd post.

I do have some nolva on hand, but if the gyno is caused by prolactin, progesterone, etc, it can make it worse, so I wanted to wait to find out which substance was causing it. Almost no sensitivity now without hcgen but the puffiness hasn't gone down to where it was before I started. Maybe I'll take 10mg for a week or two and see if that helps.

Why would you advise against decreasing cals? I agree an overabundance is better than under, but surely there's an ideal intake that puts on the muscle but minimizes fat increase. At my current rate it feels like I'm adding 80% fat/ 20% muscle, which isn't ideal.

 

[yuppyguitar]

Btw here's my diet:

Carb Protein Fat
Meal 1
6 egg whites 1.2 21.6 0.6
80 g oatmeal (half cup) 53.3 11.6 5.8
Meal 2
150g top round 0 52.65 12.9
8 oz sweet potato 47.2 4.6 0.4
1 tbsp fish oil 0 0 13.6
Meal 3
200g chicken 0 41 1.8
65g rice 50.18 5.135 1.885
1 tbsp fish oil 0 0 13.6
1/2 cup broccoli
Meal 4
150g top round 0 52.65 12.9
65g rice 50.18 5.135 1.885
Meal 5
80g oatmeal 53.3 11.6 5.8
200g chicken 0 41 1.8
1 tbsp fish oil 0 0 13.6
Meal 6
1 tbsp fish oil 0 0 13.6
4 oz sweet potato 23.6 2.3 0.2
200g chicken 0 41 1.8
lettuce&balsamic salad 0 0 0


Again sorry about the formatting, this is copied straight from excel. Zed you're a mod right? Maybe you can get one of the tech guys to enable tables in posts? That would be sweet.

I agree that its lacking in variety, but I think the important stuff is all there. I am on a multi for whats its worth.