First cycle advice.

[roobie23]

Well I said I would never do it but hey ho. After 2 beast cycles and not keeping most of my gains I've decided to bite the bullet and roid up. I am kind of at my genetic max going natural I just can't get any bigger, after bulking if I attempt to cut even for a week I'm back to my natural weight it is killing me
I want to be big and cut (eventually). I don't think I can handle needles after watching my sister fuck up her life on heroin so orals will have to do.
So dianabol? I was thinking, yeh I hear a lot of bad rep but is there a better option?
Also do you take nolvadex and a test booster throughout the cycle and then a test booster and clomid as pct?
Any advice would be helpful.

 

[C.K.]

Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...

 

[stupid_rope]

Yeah, we're on the same page. I'm sick of working so hard and not seeing gains. I'm plateaued on some of my major groups. I'm reading my ass off (and have been lurking on here for a while) on which cycle to choose, and I like dbol, but i think i've settled on winny and anavar.

i'm getting liver support but whats a good PCT (i know everybody is different)?

is mrsupps a good spot?

6'1" 220lbs 27 years old first cycle train 5 days/week

 

[deejleos]

Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...

Agreed! Gotta stick the needle in eventually


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[roobie23]

Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...

Ok, so let's say I do inject, what would you recommend ?
Anything you would recommend for keeping my gains, like I said I have followed as advised on here in every way and that's twice now. I mean all in all I have gained 9lbs lean mass in 2 cycles. Probably just venting my frustration or something but it does wear me down

 

[liquidmuscle]

Since its your first time i say go with something simple,, 8-10wks of a test/deca cycle and you will be good to go

 

[sammy5555]

I'm on test deca first round and love it.. Not going to deca past 8 weeks though. If u read many complications..I'm on week 4 starting Monday and noticing it.. I was on platou too an hated it.. I think my next will be tren and test and then done...

 

[Joel1980]

Deca should not be used for a first cycle. Period.

 

[P_o_B]

use tte (tren n teste) 8 weeks n dbols 4weeks, i gained about 20lbs first cycle n kept most of it
with clomid n armidex for pct

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

First cycle Run Test E only brother @ 500mg/wk

Do not run any 19nor's in your first a simple test only, or even a TestE / Dbol cycle will just fine.

To the poster who is stopping Deca at 8 weeks, why? @ 8 weeks you have just barley begun to experience the full effects of Deca.

Tren Should definitely not be used in a first cycle.

Test Only Test/dbol your GTG

 

[deejleos]

1st cycle should just be test with an oral kicker, see how ur body takes to it, don't try doing multiple compounds ur first at bat


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[Stryker1992]

Well I said I would never do it but hey ho. After 2 beast cycles and not keeping most of my gains I've decided to bite the bullet and roid up. I am kind of at my genetic max going natural I just can't get any bigger, after bulking if I attempt to cut even for a week I'm back to my natural weight it is killing me
I want to be big and cut (eventually). I don't think I can handle needles after watching my sister fuck up her life on heroin so orals will have to do.
So dianabol? I was thinking, yeh I hear a lot of bad rep but is there a better option?
Also do you take nolvadex and a test booster throughout the cycle and then a test booster and clomid as pct?
Any advice would be helpful.

I am wondering why you did not maintian your beast gains? What was pct? did you use HCG or HCGenerate? Any post cycle compounds?

 

[GabeS]

Deca should not be used for a first cycle. Period.

agreed. stay away from deca. test alone 500mg p week will grt you 25/30lbs at least of muscle in a 12 week cycle. as long as your diet supports it.

 

[roobie23]

I am wondering why you did not maintian your beast gains? What was pct? did you use HCG or HCGenerate? Any post cycle compounds?

Yeh pct was forma stanzol post cycle unleashed and used double dose of bridge

 

[goaltender28]

Hey i havent really read what others have been posting but thought i would just throw a suggestion out there, i started a bulking cycle as i was very thin as well lets say 125lbs at 5"7 thin lol... Your going to need to stick to a good weight gain diet, combined with regular exercise and a very easy steroid stack. I might suggest Anardol (its easier on the wallet), and using test prop (yes that means a needle) shooting 1cc everyday. Dont worry its not that tough, research your biggest most accessable muscle groups and try hitting them. I like shoulder, and glutes. Use the smallest inject needle possible (usually 23 1") if your afraid of them. And two things to remember your not direct injecting into blood stream so it hurts far less, no need to find veins or that stuff. And secondly i have to say you cannot bulk and cut as effectively at the same time. Stick to a good bulking cycle and stay true to all the aspects (diet,workout,steroid stack), then when youve put on some desired thickness and healthy weight, consider your cutting cycle.

 

[DtownG]

Test e @ 300mg for the first couple weeks to see how your body reacts because you don't want to start high because you really might shock your body hard! If 300mg per week is working for you then keep it! More is not always better! If you want to kickstart your cycle before you start running your Test I would do some D-Bol for the first 3 weeks and the start of the 4th week stop the d-Bol and run Test e then when your nearing the end of your cycle like the last 3 weeks bring the d-Bol back into the picture with the test e your outcome should be great since you want mass!