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First cycle advice.

roobie23

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Well I said I would never do it but hey ho. After 2 beast cycles and not keeping most of my gains I've decided to bite the bullet and roid up. I am kind of at my genetic max going natural I just can't get any bigger, after bulking if I attempt to cut even for a week I'm back to my natural weight it is killing me
I want to be big and cut (eventually). I don't think I can handle needles after watching my sister fuck up her life on heroin so orals will have to do.
So dianabol? I was thinking, yeh I hear a lot of bad rep but is there a better option?
Also do you take nolvadex and a test booster throughout the cycle and then a test booster and clomid as pct?
Any advice would be helpful.
 
Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...
 
Yeah, we're on the same page. I'm sick of working so hard and not seeing gains. I'm plateaued on some of my major groups. I'm reading my ass off (and have been lurking on here for a while) on which cycle to choose, and I like dbol, but i think i've settled on winny and anavar.

i'm getting liver support but whats a good PCT (i know everybody is different)?

is mrsupps a good spot?

6'1" 220lbs 27 years old first cycle train 5 days/week
 
Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...

Agreed! Gotta stick the needle in eventually


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Beast is far superior to most oral aas so you're just gonna have to man up and take a needle if you wanna do a "real cycle" because that honestly was a pretty lame excuse if your junkie sister can take a needle I'm sure your macho body building self should be able to...

Ok, so let's say I do inject, what would you recommend ?
Anything you would recommend for keeping my gains, like I said I have followed as advised on here in every way and that's twice now. I mean all in all I have gained 9lbs lean mass in 2 cycles. Probably just venting my frustration or something but it does wear me down
 
Since its your first time i say go with something simple,, 8-10wks of a test/deca cycle and you will be good to go
 
I'm on test deca first round and love it.. Not going to deca past 8 weeks though. If u read many complications..I'm on week 4 starting Monday and noticing it.. I was on platou too an hated it.. I think my next will be tren and test and then done...
 
use tte (tren n teste) 8 weeks n dbols 4weeks, i gained about 20lbs first cycle n kept most of it
with clomid n armidex for pct
 
First cycle Run Test E only brother @ 500mg/wk

Do not run any 19nor's in your first a simple test only, or even a TestE / Dbol cycle will just fine.

To the poster who is stopping Deca at 8 weeks, why? @ 8 weeks you have just barley begun to experience the full effects of Deca.

Tren Should definitely not be used in a first cycle.

Test Only Test/dbol your GTG
 
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