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First beginner cycle..

Who am I

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Profil :

20 years
175 cm
80 kg
BF % 10-12
Trained for 4 years 4 times a week(2-split) - no exseption.

I am comittet to fitness/bodybuilding. Dont drink - drugs - smoke etc.

Planning this first cycle...

1-11 Test E 250 mg EW
1-10 Norma deca 200 mg EW

PCT Nolvadex 40 mg 2 weeks 20 mg 2 weeks

Is it too little dose ?
 
taoiron said:
You are to young brotha!!! Wait until your mid 20’s!!

I agree. If I had your natural test levels I would be pumped!

That said this was my first:

test ent 250mgs wk 1-10

I went from 200 to 220.

I was 27 when I did that.

Where is you pct?
 
IMO....drop the Deca and do 500mg test/EW ! I did this for my first cycle and loved it! Your also going to need PCT (post cycle therapy) to keep your gains. 20 is young but its your body, your decision.

Inhibitor
 
Inhibitor13 said:
IMO....drop the Deca and do 500mg test/EW ! I did this for my first cycle and loved it! Your also going to need PCT (post cycle therapy) to keep your gains. 20 is young but its your body, your decision.

Inhibitor

did my first cycle at 20, not that im sayin its right, but i did 400 mg/ test cyp a week and 200 mg/deca
 
Why all the advice on waiting, 4 years of training , solid diet and 20 is fine. Look at Arnold he won mr. universe at 21 :)


If you are commited to it, and know about the risks and have read alot about it, you're fine imo. Only problem is if either your diet isn't in place or your are in your teens, because then you still growing.
 
test aat 500mgs deca at 400 and ull be amazed... however to gain weight u gotta eat like a mofo...... and ull notice by week 5 u never get sore, u could lift everyday 3 hours a day and not be sore the next day
 
I think it maybe to high dose and hear other members from other boards, they get the same out of doing small amount of aas in there first cycle.. Wouldent 400 deca EW and 500 mg test E EW be overkill ???
 
Who am I said:
I think it maybe to high dose and hear other members from other boards, they get the same out of doing small amount of aas in there first cycle.. Wouldent 400 deca EW and 500 mg test E EW be overkill ???

No way is that overkill! WTF kinda boards are you going to?.. stick with this board ! Its one of the best and the people here know their shit!

Inhibitor
 
Its All Genetics said:
test aat 500mgs deca at 400 and ull be amazed... however to gain weight u gotta eat like a mofo...... and ull notice by week 5 u never get sore, u could lift everyday 3 hours a day and not be sore the next day

for real? damn man im on a 700 mg/test/wk cycle now and i still get sore. at least chest does. that shit stays sore for like 3 or 4 days.
 
markshark said:
for real? damn man im on a 700 mg/test/wk cycle now and i still get sore. at least chest does. that shit stays sore for like 3 or 4 days.

I'm on 500mg test/400mg Deca and I’m at week 6. I noticed I didn't get sore around week 4. Maybe you're stuffs under dosed or mine is over dosed?
 
anal itch said:
I'm on 500mg test/400mg Deca and I’m at week 6. I noticed I didn't get sore around week 4. Maybe you're stuffs under dosed or mine is over dosed?

shit id rather mine be over dosed. and yea chest is the only part aside from legs that gets really sore. other body parts rarely get too sore and strength goes up on them more than chest.
 
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Originally Posted by Who am I
I think it maybe to high dose and hear other members from other boards, they get the same out of doing small amount of aas in there first cycle.. Wouldent 400 deca EW and 500 mg test E EW be overkill ???



No way is that overkill! WTF kinda boards are you going to?.. stick with this board ! Its one of the best and the people here know their shit!

Inhibitor


I disagree. I see no reason to do 500 mg test e ew 1-10 and 400 deca as first cycle. I'd use just one compound to see how I react to it. Good choice would be the 500 mg test e , ew 1-10 and nolva as pct. (Maybe some dbol to kickstart)
 
either way I would inject 2 times a week...not once with both deca and test E....I think 500mg Test E and 400mg deca would make you much happier with the results...you will want some arimadex & nolva on hand...you don't want gyno at 20...that much I know for sure..
 
go test e 500mg/wk. you could also add dbol or tbol for the first few weeks. no need for the deca yet. use hcg, nolva, and clomid for ptc.
 
asianlover said:
go test e 500mg/wk. you could also add dbol or tbol for the first few weeks. no need for the deca yet. use hcg, nolva, and clomid for ptc.

damn i remember when i did my first at 20 i was recommended deca to help balance sides from test or something. i dont know if thats true but everyone i talked to and everywhere i looked people told me that test by itself is more dangerous than mixed with deca side-effect wise. can anyone clear that up?
 
markshark said:
damn i remember when i did my first at 20 i was recommended deca to help balance sides from test or something. i dont know if thats true but everyone i talked to and everywhere i looked people told me that test by itself is more dangerous than mixed with deca side-effect wise. can anyone clear that up?

ive never heard that before. but, by stacking you can use less of each. maybe thats the thought behind it. test only is really the best first cycle imo. since it is usually the base of most cycles its good to know how you handle it.
 
Bro,I suggest...not to hurry with steroids...but if you decide to go with AS,you can start with 250mg of Test,and increase it up to 500mg... if everything is OK...also,HCG for your PCT...
 
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