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Finasteride and NPP / Deca / Tren?

tical

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I've heard mixed stories in different threads, I'd like to hear a little more here.

Who has experienced rapid hairloss due to combining finasteride + nandrolones?

Who has used finasteride + nandrolones w/o any problems?

I want to do a 12 weeker but don't want to stop using finasteride, and EQ gives me anxiety. Anavar is too weak for me...

What else should I consider? Winny? Primo? Tbol?

I'd like to base the cycle w/ about 500mg sust EW

thanks bros
 
tical said:
I've heard mixed stories in different threads, I'd like to hear a little more here.
Who has experienced rapid hairloss due to combining finasteride + nandrolones?
Who has used finasteride + nandrolones w/o any problems?
I want to do a 12 weeker but don't want to stop using finasteride, and EQ gives me anxiety. Anavar is too weak for me...
What else should I consider? Winny? Primo? Tbol?
I'd like to base the cycle w/ about 500mg sust EW

thanks bros

depends on the individual and the dosages, because the finasteride prevents the conversion of nandrolones to DHN (which is hair benign, and may even be protective due to preferential/persistent binding to the androgen receptor).

this means by using finasteride w/nandrolones:
1) the unconverted nandrolone itself becomes a hair threat, but
2) test based dht is minimized.

So it depends on whether the cost of #1 outweighs the benefit of #2,
and that depends on dosages and individual
relative sensitivity to dht vs unconverted nandrolones.

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forget winny if you're hair sensitive.

either go higher dose on anavar (like even approaching 100 mg), or possibly try tbol which has gotten good reviews from hair sensitive users.

as to primo, it gets conflicting reports on effects on hair and I havent tried it, so I wouldnt even guess.

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I noticed more hair loss on Dbol (30mg/day) than I did on Test/Tren (500/300mg/wk). When I was using the dbol at the beginning of the cycle I could notice it fairly quickly. After the Dbol was over it seemed to subside and I didnt notice any major shedding the remainder of the cycle.

I was on finasteride (1.25mg/day) the entire time.

Although Tren is highly androgenic many seem to report its effects on hair arent equally as bad. IMO, dbol is worse. Tren is by no means "hair friendly" though.

Stick to finasteride with Test and if you must Tren (its so tempting). Aviod Dbol and stick with Tbol. What more could you possibly need? :D If you like Deca/NPP using them along with finasteride should not be a major issue. Most of the so called science against it is shakey at best. I have seen strong arguments on both sides.

The golden rule is generally the more androgenic the more likely it is to increase hair loss. If you are serious about it dont forget to combine the finasteride with a topical minox formula such as Xandrox (or a cheaper clone formulation). http://www.minoxidil.com/
 
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I'm using a ton of test and dbol along with avodart and have not seen any shedding so far... only 2.5 weeks in though. Also using tren hex.
 
Tux said:
I'm using a ton of test and dbol along with avodart and have not seen any shedding so far... only 2.5 weeks in though. Also using tren hex.

For the most part, finasteride and avodart (dutasteride) are only effective for test. It's pretty useless as a preventative measure for Tren or Dbol. Dutasteride is more effective than finasteride at lowering overall DHT when using test (or in a natural state). However, I hesitate to demolish DHT levels like that. 1mg of finasteride is shown to be as effective as 5mg in cinical tests. Obviously there is a point where lowering DHT even more might not have the same effect as you would think in regards to hair protection. I really wish I didnt have lower DHT at all. God damn the genetic lottery.

Avodart is also so damn expensive. You can get 5mg generic finasteride and split them for very cheap. I havent personally seen generics of avodart yet but I havent looked in a long time. DHT is generally a very good thing for active, weight training males. Not to mention its antagonism of estrogen. Too bad :{

Most of this is common knowledge but here is a link for anyone new wishing to catch up on DHT.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform8.htm
 
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Well my avodart is free as is my proscar, I am using it just to combat high DHT levels from the 1200mg's/week of test enth I'm running. I was just saying that, so far, dutasteride has not seemed to interact at all with the tren hex I'm taking, nor with the tren ace I took before while on propecia. The only thing that makes me shed is winny, but it always grows back quickly.
 
I lost a ton of hair when on DBOL too, I dropped that shit real quick. I've never noticed a major issue with higher dosages of test (I've only been up to 750mg /wk), not much difference in hairloss.

I really like Deca and would love to try NPP but fuck, what to do what to do...

I've got some Tren here that I never got around to using either, shoot. This is a toughie
 
Tux said:
Well my avodart is free as is my proscar, I am using it just to combat high DHT levels from the 1200mg's/week of test enth I'm running. I was just saying that, so far, dutasteride has not seemed to interact at all with the tren hex I'm taking, nor with the tren ace I took before while on propecia. The only thing that makes me shed is winny, but it always grows back quickly.

how do you go about getting your adovart for free tux?
 
Fergie, my father is an MD and gets enough free samples to last him, me, and two friends 12 months out of the year. So I've got all the avodard I need, plus a few boxes of propecia, plus 30 sample packs of proscar. Too bad he doesn't get anavar samples :)
 
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