finalizing 2ns cycle comments advice

[Steroid_Virgin]

first cycle was 250 sust, 200mg eq.. poor diet... didnt gain much..

2nd cycle, i want to look like this..

week t400 eq dbol winny
1 500 300 25ed -
2 500 300 25ed -
3 500 300 20ed -
4 500 300 20ed -
5 500 300 - -
6 500 300 - 50ed
7 500 300 - 50ed
8 500 300 - 50ed
9 - 300 - 50ed
10 - - - -
11 Cloimd thearpy starts 200mg first dose
12 Clomid 100ed
13 Clomid thearpy ends @50ed
**Nolva on hand**

I would like to take liquidex through out to keep the water off, im at 165#'s now would like to get to 185. Im planing the meals out now, goal for 3500 clean calories, 250-300 gr protien per day

Right now, for my work outs I do, 3 days a week, pushes, pulls, legs. Im planning on doing serious cardio after 1 first full week of winny..

#1 Do I need the liquidex? (assuming i find it in rosarita)
#2 is 250 grams of protien enough per day
#3 Do I stay on creatine mantainance, or not bother
#4 Make any changes to my work out
#5 If I can get liqudex, can i take nolva ed to keep water off?

Feel free to critique..

 

[serge]

cycle looks ok, if you are naturally skinny i suggest eating more calories then you have outlined

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

yeah.. i was expecting that, i made a sample menu, and I hard time getting in 3500 clean calories.. now, If I eat shit, 3500 aint so bad... but with out eating very fat rich food, i dont know if I could consistantly choke down 4000+ calories a day.. but if i need to, will find a way

bump.. starting off at 165#'s (Im pretty lean too) do i really need 4k cals per day?

 

[lawnsaver]

There is a new view on when to take dbol. I would switch the dbol and winny. Take the dbol towards the end to work with the test and eq once it has kicked in. Some vets are saying the gains from dbol could be made more permenant when taken once the base gears has kicked in.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

lawnsaver, thats pretty interesting, i'd like to hear more about that.. any one else try or experiement with taking dbol deeper into the cycle??

thx bro

 

[XXXL]

i've always used dbol at the begining of a cycle because i like to see the results fast and that helps modivate me. my last cycle i had some left over and took them again at the end of the cycle to get rid of them. i put on a lot more weight and didn't experince that post cycle crash that i thought i would have for throwing the dbol in at the end.

 

[BigPsyco]

hmmm never heard of that Lawn, sounds legit , but most would prob want to use dbol in the same way xxxl refered, maybe a good median can be found somewhere around the end of the second week, anyway that cycle is very similar to a cycle i threw together for one of my roid newbie friends except rather dec than eq and advised towards pyramiding the dbol

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Not bad...I would just use 1 1/2 cc of T400 to get 600mg/week through out and up the Eq to 400mg/week if you have enough. Start the Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Eq. Make sure you protect the liver

M18

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

bump what about my work outs, and diet?? also, im not a big sleeper, is that going to make a difference? should I go to the doc for sleep aids?