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FINAL First cycle before boot camp

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Hey everyone, so i did decide to go to the marines. i Jus need it for me to grow up and mature, and im also lookin for it to get me a jumpstart at life and a career. My bootcamp is 5/27, and im going to try and get as physically and mentally in shape as possible before i head down.

I know some people said not to do a cycle before boot camp, but if my PCT - post cycle therapy - is on spot then i shouldnt feel a "crash". And plus, i know that i wont have as much endurance as i did when i was on, but thats somethin mental that i will be able to get past. Ill jus have to train naturally with all my other fellow marines and try and come out a LCpl. (Lance Corporal)

I was wondering if i should run this

weeks 1-12 = testosterone enanthate 300mg EW
weeks 1-11 = proviron 50mg ED
weeks 14-17 = clomid 50mg ED
Not sure about Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - since idk if i am gynecomastia prone.

A couple of questions.

1) Do i need to run HCG thoughout this? If i do should i start at week 3 and do 250iu's 2x a week till week 12?

2) Is running proviron for 11 straight weeks bad? I want to use it as a sex drive booster (although idk if ill need it), and to help get rid of some water weight, and to help test attach to receptors.

3) IS 300mg of testosterone enanthate a week for 12 weeks enough to give me gynecomastia? Should i just always have Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand jus in case no matter what?

I am pretty much wanting to do this so i can get my pullups up to 20 before i go in so my PFT test can be higher. I am goin to be running to the gym which is a 3 mile run everytime i go to work out, so probably 5-6 days maybe 7 days a week.

I am 19, 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yea i might be young but shit a lot of ur guys first cycles have been a lot more than this and i know a lot of people on here werent even ready to do a cycle. I know exactly what goes in my body and what happens, and i know that 300mg is not a lot but enough to get me good gains, and the only side effect i can see is for being young is stuntin my growth plates. All the other sides ill be able to tolerate (acne, aggression, etc.)

Any opinions/responses are appreciated! please dont flame though...and u can say somethin about bein too young but im not gonna be takin cycle after cycle, and when i do start takin cycles regularly, it will be when im around 23. But if i do decide to do a cycle before that time i will know what im doing.
 
Don't do that. You are to young to mess with your hormonal system without a goal that really justify the sacrifice and the possible side effects. Besides that reason, you are out of time. Doing a cycle before going to boot camp should leave you a gap after PCT is finished of at least 6 weeks so your body returns to normal by itself and forget about drugs.

Your decision of joining the marines is wonderful; it is honorable. Congratulations, and thank you for serving the best country on earth. But, don't mess with this. Prepare yourself naturally; you'll have plenty of time later in life to do other things; you are too young and have the whole life ahead. At your age I didn't know what was a dumbell with one year of basic infantry under my belt.

Be safe and what you need, is what you got. Your body, under the control of your mind.
 
Thanks for your service.

No need for the cycle boot camp and a extended tour in Iraq with lack of sleep and nutrition will cuase your to loose your gains.
so it will all be short lived.

Lots of androl and dbol getting mailed to troops in their gift baskets to Iraq.
 
needtogetaas said:
wtf is boot camp any way? When I went in they called it basic training. They would smoke your ass for calling it boot camp.

isnt boot camp where they send troubled teens instead of jail to get babysat by retired drill isntructors?
 
marines actually call it bootcamp. its the army that calls it basic training. if i remember correctly needto you are prior army right?
on another not i just got DA selected to be a drill sgt!! haha but since i only have 13 days left in the army im getting out of it. those fucking privates have no idea how lucky they are, i would end up choking some shitbags out.
 
jumpmaster82 said:
marines actually call it bootcamp. its the army that calls it basic training. if i remember correctly needto you are prior army right?
on another not i just got DA selected to be a drill sgt!! haha but since i only have 13 days left in the army im getting out of it. those fucking privates have no idea how lucky they are, i would end up choking some shitbags out.
So you are a e-6 bro?
 
ironcheif1984 said:
God damn you fucking went through you ranks fast huh bro.....
yea i did. the military is just a bullshit game, and its easy as hell to play it. if your in an airborne unit or a ranger BN and make jumpmaster, you can pretty much coast through the ranks.
 
jumpmaster82 said:
In the marines it takes most people 15-20 years to get e-7? What was your mos and how the fuck did you do that? Thats crazy fast bro. Must have a mos that has a real low cut off score,A high as pt test score,a few friends,some school under your belt and correspondence courses to. With a perfect range score on top of it all. Shit your a regaler commando. What the hell would you get out for
if you are doing so good?

If you did the ds thing them maybe a recruiter your a sure win for a e-8 then e-9 with the way you are going. Fuck retire as a e-9 and life is gravy after that.
 
o never mind fucking shit your army lmao, and a jumpmaster to. Ya I can see why you got rank so fast. How long have you been in Fort benning bro. I may have even trained under you.
 
I wish we could burn rank in the AF the way you Army and Marines do. Our rank progression is way more set in stone.........stupid really.

To the original poster, do not do a cycle before basic bc it won't help you. You really just need to be able to run, and you'll lose all that hard earned muscle anyways.
 
my bootcamp date is 5/27, so that means i would have to end my PCT by middle of april, so that would only give me teen weeks lol.
 
needtogetaas said:
o never mind fucking shit your army lmao, and a jumpmaster to. Ya I can see why you got rank so fast. How long have you been in Fort benning bro. I may have even trained under you.
I've never been stationed at benning. I was only there to train, went to airborne school, ranger school, then jumpmaster school there. I spent 5 and a half years in the 82nd and now im finishing my time at a small base in maryland. I was given the option to go to benning to teach at airborne school but turned it down cuz blackhats work crazy hours.
i know ive made rank crazy fast and could make e-8 and then 9 and retire. But ive been to through to many deployments and close calls. Im getting out cuz i have a feeling that my lucks run out and the next deployment i wont get so lucky.
 
jumpmaster82 said:
I've never been stationed at benning. I was only there to train, went to airborne school, ranger school, then jumpmaster school there. I spent 5 and a half years in the 82nd and now im finishing my time at a small base in maryland. I was given the option to go to benning to teach at airborne school but turned it down cuz blackhats work crazy hours.
i know ive made rank crazy fast and could make e-8 and then 9 and retire. But ive been to through to many deployments and close calls. Im getting out cuz i have a feeling that my lucks run out and the next deployment i wont get so lucky.


I think it is a good decision bro. You have done you part and we thank you for that. Now go to you Law school and help those juicers lol......Good luck with your future endevours bro. :)
 
I would go into boot camp acting like i was weak and all that so that you show improvment and dont get yeslled at as hard.
 
schutzhundk9 said:
To all the former, current and future service members, Thank you!

Your welcome! And self, i think like that too like i want to be the best but i dont want them to think that i already think im a marine, but then again it would jus push me harder and ill pass out before i die so FUCK IT
 
Don't do a cycle before bootcamp man. You are gonna lose all your gains anyway. Plus what if you get some kind of delayed gyno? You won't be able to do shit to get rid of it. You would come out of bootcamp leaner, meaner and with a pair of tits
 
haha good shit, yea im not gonna do a cycle. im gonna wait till after. could i maybe do the amricell-labs prohormones? they are pretty safe ive done a couple cycles before
 
I went to bootcamp for the marines in 2004 and you don't want anything in your system when you get there. Also is is to late to start a cycle with test-e and have it out of you system by the time you go to bootcamp. You also get pissed testes as soon as you get there and while there you also get blood drawn. You say you want a career so don't risk fucking it up before it even get's started and if you have the right C/O they will put it on your record. The best way to do it is wait until you get out of bootcamp and find out how things are run in the marines and then you can do a cycle.
 
jumpmaster82 said:
I've never been stationed at benning. I was only there to train, went to airborne school, ranger school, then jumpmaster school there. I spent 5 and a half years in the 82nd and now im finishing my time at a small base in maryland. I was given the option to go to benning to teach at airborne school but turned it down cuz blackhats work crazy hours.
i know ive made rank crazy fast and could make e-8 and then 9 and retire. But ive been to through to many deployments and close calls. Im getting out cuz i have a feeling that my lucks run out and the next deployment i wont get so lucky.


Good Idea once your gut starts telling you that. That is the warrior sense and I never go against it. The whole sixth ense thing kept my ass alive. Its almost like ESP sometimes.
 
thx for all the replies, but does anyone think i should take a prohormone for a month jus to get my pull ups to 20?
 
Hey bro I train recruits down here in Parris Island. Dont do it. If you can do three pullups our PT program here will do u just right besides you are given a full blood drug test and you also have the dreaded moment of truth. Save it for after you graduate bro...
 
I am currently in the ARMY.

All you would be doing is wastimg your money bro. reason why is, they are going to run you to death when you join because that is where the majority of the recruits are weak and they dont have time to train the individual so they train the whole group,

And when i say run you to death try 5 or 6 miles a day with alot of calistinics in between and anything you gained while on cycle would be lost half way through boot. good luck
 
deffenitly would be a huge waste of money to do a cycle before boot. it will just make the running more difficult if anything and like every1 says u will just loss all your gains. their goal is to make u lean,fast with good endurance, not big.
 
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