FINA users; seperating that nasty glue...

[Sterone]

I find that when I crush the fina pellets and mix them with a small amount of water (2 oz per 800mg fina) and bake it in a coffee mug at 500 degrees for about 10 minutes, all the glue forms globules, wheras all the tren has already disolved in the water (and is clear) at that high temperature. (EDIT): While still hot, immediately after removing from oven, pour it into another container through a coffee filter.
Then all you have to do is let the water evaporate and you have pure tren without a trace of that nasty industrial glue.
I haven't injected fina yet and have not used a kit before, but from what I hear about brown colored injectable tren, it makes me think bros are injecting themselves with glue, since pure tren in water is no color at all but CLEAR.
Then you can prepare the injectable tren as usual, except no glue is present. No brown or bronze glue color.

 

[Andy13]

Umm... Where in the HELL did you get that procedure?

 

[Sterone]

LOL Sorry Andy, look again. I have corrected the post. I originally forgot to metion the part about running the mixture through the coffee filter upon removing from oven, to filter out the glue.
It is my understanding that in alchohol or oil, that the glue tends to mix. Wheras I have found with water it doesn't but forms globules.

 

[browndog1]

I second that...wtf??

Why would you want to separate the glue in water? Use the kit and double filter if you want, and you are left with a pale yellow oil.

Brown?? who injects brown fina??

...bd

 

[Sterone]

Browndog,
Ok my bad. My next fina cycle will be via injection. All the posts I read about bros injecting say that is BROWN or BRONZE in color! All I am saying is that I am not going to inject GLUE into my bloodstream.
Browndog if your fina has no glue then I want to use the kit you use. Tell me, what kit do you use?

 

[Sterone]

I mean, if there is a way to use a kit and not get any glue, I'm all for it, but most of the posts I read on it say it is brown or bronze!
That is unacceptable.

 

[Zyglamail]

I mean, if there is a way to use a kit and not get any glue, I'm all for it, but most of the posts I read on it say it is brown or bronze!

Thousand of kits have been used with great results, what the fuck does the color have to do with anything? And, its NOT glue, its methylcelulose which wont hurt you, but if it can be removed it should be. I would sooner inject brown final product from a kit than something that was baked for 3 hours at 500 f.

 

[B182]

Base trenbolone crystals have a yellow tint, who told you it is clear?

Also, the solubility of trenbolone in water is extremely poor, and your method would surely throw out most of the tren.

 

[Sterone]

500 degrees for about 10 minutes

Who said anything about 3 hours?
What the fuck does color have to do with it? Well if the color isn't the color of the oil it is an indication that something else is in there, since tren in liquid form has no color. Methylcelulose? Well if methylcelulose is the name of that glue you inject, then it's some nasty stuff. Try seperating it into globules and touching one of the globules with your finger. It will be on your finger until the next day no matter how well you wash it. That is some strong glue, and I for one have no desire to inject it. Think about what it does inside your bloodvessels.

 

[Sterone]

B182: When you mix the powder in the water and cook it at 500 degrees, the tren mixes pretty well in the water, because of the high temperature. The globules are the glue. Remove this glue through the coffee filter, and the liquid looks clear to me. The tren is still in the water at this point. When you dry the solution the tren powder has a slight yellow tint to it. However with 800mg of it diluted in 2oz of water the tint is barely noticeable.
But heck, if the same process (forming the glue into globules and removing it at high temperature) can be done in oil, without significant amounts of glue escaping, then I'm all for it. I'll try it and see how it works, but if it's brown, forget it.

 

[marky]

The binders left over in the final solution from the kit are heavier than the oil and will eventually settle to the bottom. Turn the bottle over and let the "gunk" settle to the top of the bottle and then its easily drawn out with a syringe.

 

[Riker29]

Browndog,
Ok my bad. My next fina cycle will be via injection. All the posts I read about bros injecting say that is BROWN or BRONZE in color! All I am saying is that I am not going to inject GLUE into my bloodstream.
Browndog if your fina has no glue then I want to use the kit you use. Tell me, what kit do you use?

uhhhhhhhhhhh ....

The OIL is golden, so when you add anything to it that would otherwise be .... clear .... the result is........ duh ........ uh ... sorta golden brown.

 

[littlearnold1069]

i am completely baffled by this theard...

 

[Sterone]

The binders left over in the final solution from the kit are heavier than the oil and will eventually settle to the bottom. Turn the bottle over and let the "gunk" settle to the top of the bottle and then its easily drawn out with a syringe.

Cool. If this is possible, to get the golden yellow color, and to avoid whatever residue, I'll try the kit. And will post back on here if I have any problems with it. Thanks.

 

[Sterone]

uhhhhhhhhhhh ....

The OIL is golden, so when you add anything to it that would otherwise be .... clear .... the result is........ duh ........ uh ... sorta golden brown.

uhhhhhhhhhhh .... Riker29, I hope not. I would think if you added something clear to something golden, it would stay golden, no?
Again, if it's brown I would think something is wrong, since that is the color of the glue. Tell me if you think otherwise, and why.

 

[Zyglamail]

Again, if it's brown I would think something is wrong, since that is the color of the glue. Tell me if you think otherwise, and why.

First off, once again, there is NOT any glue in the pellets. Everything in the pellets is biodegradable and non hazerdous. Secondly, there can be a couple reasons why the final product can be a bit more brown than golden. One reason is oxidization of the tren. This is not harmfull, just a slight coloration change in it. Also depending on the kit that was used, the magic solution can sometimes seperate slightly into a golden layer and a darker brown layer. THIS IS NOT harmfull and if you base you decision simply on color then just forget this thread existed and do what you think is right.

On a side note, tren has a melting point of around 195f so if your taking it to 500f can you be certain you are not damaging the tren? I dont know where you came up with your method, but I find it kind of humerous that there have been thousands if not hundreds of thousands of these conversion kits used with little or no problems yet you claim your method is better but have no proof that your method works and does not damage the tren.

 

[Andy13]

This post is getting more and more funny by the minute.

First off, 500 degrees is more than double the boiling temperature of water!?!?

This guy can't be for real.

 

[Sterone]

First off, once again, there is NOT any glue in the pellets. Everything in the pellets is biodegradable and non hazerdous. Secondly, there can be a couple reasons why the final product can be a bit more brown than golden. One reason is oxidization of the tren. This is not harmfull, just a slight coloration change in it. Also depending on the kit that was used, the magic solution can sometimes seperate slightly into a golden layer and a darker brown layer.

Now this is the kind of post I'm talking about. Very informative. Oxidization of the tren and magic solution. Interesting.

THIS IS NOT harmfull and if you base you decision simply on color then just forget this thread existed and do what you think is right.

Well being new to preparing injectable tren with my only experience with the brown color was from the gluelike substance (which in its seperated concentrated form is so sticky it was scary) while preparing transdermal tren. So until I found out what it was all about (which I just did) I would naturally be cautious.

On a side note, tren has a melting point of around 195f so if your taking it to 500f can you be certain you are not damaging the tren?

Well interestingly enough, in my experimentation I found that after melting the tren (which I did on several occasions) at 500f for about 10 minutes, it still gave me quite a powerful anabolic effect via plogel transdermal delivery. Whether or not or to what extent the tren was damaged I don't know, I just know it worked suprisingly well.

but I find it kind of humerous that there have been thousands if not hundreds of thousands of these conversion kits used with little or no problems yet you claim your method is better but have no proof that your method works and does not damage the tren.

The method I used is not better, just different. I'm still learning here. About the damage I don't know, you may have a point there. If tren melts does it automatically mean it is damaged? I do know that I got a powerful effect from that tren cycle.

 

[Sterone]

500 degrees is more than double the boiling temperature of water!?!?

It never came to a boil when I did it. I Just put the oven at 500f and put the coffee mug in there. When there were brown globules in it I took it out and it was never boiling.

 

[Andy13]

Did you make this procedure up yourself? Just curious.

 

[Zyglamail]

Well being new to preparing injectable tren with my only experience with the brown color was from the gluelike substance (which in its seperated concentrated form is so sticky it was scary) while preparing transdermal tren. So until I found out what it was all about (which I just did) I would naturally be cautious.

The methylcelulose is actually kind of an off white. If you are getting brown goo with your method, my guess its due to bruning the methylcelulose.

The method I used is not better, just different. I'm still learning here. About the damage I don't know, you may have a point there. If tren melts does it automatically mean it is damaged? I do know that I got a powerful effect from that tren cycle.

As for damge, I cant say for sure either, but its one thing I would definalt find out about before injecting it. Also, keep in mind that while methylcelulose may not be harmfull, if you burn it by by using too extreme temps, there could possibly toxic ramifications. Once again, not saying there is, but the possibility does exist.

 

[Sterone]

As for damge, I cant say for sure either, but its one thing I would definalt find out about before injecting it.

Agreed. I'll keep my eyes open for this info.

 

[Hbone]

Sterone if you liked the PHLOEgel youl love the kits. A's or Mohawk both are good, It easy and reliable.

 

[Riker29]

uhhhhhhhhhhh .... Riker29, I hope not. I would think if you added something clear to something golden, it would stay golden, no?
Again, if it's brown I would think something is wrong, since that is the color of the glue. Tell me if you think otherwise, and why.

Uh THATS WHAT I SAID!

Golden, golden brown, whatever, its fine.

Dude I am not into kitchen chemistry myself especially when planning to INJECT thje reaulst of such, but you can disclaim the fact that thousands of guys have used these kits and there have been very very very few bad incidents reported.

 

[11/2in22g5ccfilled]

time wasted

why the fuck did any of you entertain this dumbass ?

 

[Sterone]

Thanks HBONE. I'll try one an "A" or Blackhawk kit.

 

[Sterone]

Re: time wasted

why the fuck did any of you entertain this dumbass ?

Well I have learned on this post what I came to learn, how does that bother you? Are you against people learning things on this board? Are people dumbasses because they ask questions, discuss new ideas or become informed about them?
Maybe I should just let the character of your post speak for itself.