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Fina Prep Without the Kit

68GT350

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Disclaimer: The following is for educational purposes only. I take no responsiblity for any adverse effects.

Two cycles ago, I was recommended a method to prep the Fina tablets for injection without the kits since I was too impatient to wait for it (If I remembered who he was, I'd give him credit). I found it to be flawed but I perfected it on my own and I have come to firmly believe that the kit is bullshit and my method is both more convenient, easier to get an accurate dosage, and just plain more fun! I've never had a problem with clogging, infection, or anything else that may be associated with glues, dyes and such.

For my method you will need the following items:

-Everclear alcohol (found at any liquor store)
-Sesame Seed oil (found at some gnc's, supermarkets, health food stores, or chinese restaurants)
-One toothpick
-One Straw
-Some adhesive tape
-A spoon
-A cart of Fina
-Access to an oven and microwave
-Two shotglasses
-A box of 22-23g syringes and needles (I recommend buying syringes and needles seperately as you will soon see)
-A medium sized pot

Step 1 - Begin by using the toothpick to poke the Fina tabs from the top out the bottom. Since they are equal to 20mg per tablet, you can prepare one shot with as much fina in it as you wish. For the sake of this thread, I will use 80mg (4 fina tabs).

Step 2 - Take your straw and seal off one end by folding it and taping it closed. Seal it well so you it won't allow fina to get stuck in the creavices. Throw the tabs in the open end of the straw and fold over the other end leaving about 2.5 inches to crush the pellets between each end. Make a nice powder. The more it's crushed, the easier Step 4 will be.

Step 3 - Open up a new syringe and pull out the plunger. Pour the crushed fina pellets into the syringe from the straw and place the plunger back on. Place a needle (if it isn't already on) on the syringe and pull enough Everclear alcohol to cover the powder and no more. Don't worry--If you put too much, it will hurt when you inject but it won't ruin the shot at all. If you are using 80mg, the alcohol should come up to the first line on the syringe.

Step 4 - Put the pot filled with water on the stove and heat till it's hot but not boiling. When the water is ready, hold the syringe with the fina/everclear solution by the capped needle and stir the entire syringe in the water so it will heat up and dissolve. The mix should turn from cloudy yellow to cloudy brown.

Step 5 - put some sesame seed oil in the shotglass and microwave it for about a minute till it's very hot, to disinfect. Uncap your syringe with fina/everclear and pull 1 cc of sesame seed oil.

Step 6 - Pull another half cc or so of air just to leave space between the top and the fina. Take off the needle and place the syringe, plunger down, in the clean shotglass so it won't fall over. Put this in the microwave and nuke for about 30-60 seconds till it bubbles.

Step 7 - Now you have two choices. You can either wait for it too cool off before using a new needle and injecting or storing it and making more so you have them ready to use when it's time to inject. If you store them away, store them with a capped needle in a dark place and get rid of that extra space in the needle. When it's time to inject after storage, start from step 6 and right before you inject, flick the syringe a few times to disperse the fina around. This will make sure you inject it all and none is left in the needle or stuck to the rubber stopper on the plunger.


This is my 2nd cycle (12 weeks total EOD) using this method and I'm quite happy with how it works. Plus it makes me feel like Julia Childs! I know there will be flames but I really think the kit is overkill and people are just paranoid. Glues and dies are not to be worried over. Thank you. Comments and questions are welcome!
 
I want to use the method of crushing the fina and then straining it through a coffee filter with benzyl alcohol then scraping up the powder after it dries and mix it with prop, can I use everclear if I cant get the benzyl???
 
Don't be so fast to praise me. My methods are highly controversial and many hear may flame me. This is only based on MY experience. I'm just posting for those that are a bit adventurous and open minded.
 
siciliano101 said:
I want to use the method of crushing the fina and then straining it through a coffee filter with benzyl alcohol then scraping up the powder after it dries and mix it with prop, can I use everclear if I cant get the benzyl???

I wouldn't know anything about that method. I can't see the everclear being a bad alternative though. It's 95% alcohol!!!

You seem to be losing a lot of Fina doing that...why not just use my method and use prop instead of sesame seed oil.
 
It's an extremely potent drinking alcohol. It's made from corn. To put it in perspective, Isopropyl Rubbing alcohol is 70% alcohol by volume. Everclear is 95%!!!
 
serge said:
what the fuck is everclear alcohol? is it ethanol?

you can get it at your local liquor store (assuming you are 21 and over) its powerful shit, its like the purest alcohol u can get before it turns into fucking air. i am drinking it right now, gonna drive to store soon to get some more
 
I enjoy the kit and have no qualms paying for it.
but the straw idea is excellent - I hadn't heard that one yet.
I will steal that for my own use - and rule the world!!!!
or at least have crushed fina...
 
"It's an extremely potent drinking alcohol. It's made from corn. To put it in perspective, Isopropyl Rubbing alcohol is 70% alcohol by volume. Everclear is 95%!!!"

You are reffering to alcohol content/concentration, i want to know what kind of alcohol it is, methyl alcohol, ethyl, propyl, butyl, benzyl? one think you deffinetly dont want to do is inject you self with methyl alcohol.
 
serge said:
"It's an extremely potent drinking alcohol. It's made from corn. To put it in perspective, Isopropyl Rubbing alcohol is 70% alcohol by volume. Everclear is 95%!!!"

You are reffering to alcohol content/concentration, i want to know what kind of alcohol it is, methyl alcohol, ethyl, propyl, butyl, benzyl? one think you deffinetly dont want to do is inject you self with methyl alcohol.

y not?

I'm not sure what kind of alcohol it is. It's grain alchohol.
 
HappyScrappy said:
I enjoy the kit and have no qualms paying for it.
but the straw idea is excellent - I hadn't heard that one yet.
I will steal that for my own use - and rule the world!!!!
or at least have crushed fina...

I have no problem with the kit either but I just don't like that filtering thing. I feel that fina is lost in that process...all that precious fina.
 
WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Guys this is complete bullshit: with this method you will inject all the fillers in the pellet directly under your skin!!(no filtering)

What do you think will happen when you will have all that fillers under you skin and your body will begin to reject it? Whatever...

And a kit is only 35$...

people will never learn...
 
dude, I just said I've done this for over 12 weeks EOD. My body ain't rejecting shit. I think there's a lot of bullshit going on regarding glues and fillers. Besides, do you really think a coffee filter is going to get rid of that shit? I highly doubt it. Either way, it's all speculation. I've proven it using myself as a guinea pig. Thanks for your comment though.
 
You aren't being sarcastic, are you?!!! It's just hard to believe that THE OAK is taking what I say with a grain of salt.

No, thank you. LOL
 
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Everclear alcohol

Everclear alcohol? cool, i can get drunk too...
also, before adding oil, if you let the disolved pellets site over night before adding oil, alot of the alcohol will evaporate some, and the shots will be more or less painless compared to not doing this.
 
no sarcasm at all,im cheap as they come,mainly because im poor so if i can save from buying a kit i will,you honestly gave great advice
 
WOW great post.....

we used to fill up watermelons with everclear keep in ice chest over night then eat the night after that......WOOO PIG SOUIE......

i was looking for a kit to buy and then saw this sounds a little crazy...this is my first time to try and make fina..

but would like to hear from some of the chem wizards too....
 
just to point out - in some states Everclear isn't legal to sell - so if you are having a hard time finding it, that could be the issue. Not positive, but I think I recall that being the case in MA.
 
"Originally posted by serge
"It's an extremely potent drinking alcohol. It's made from corn. To put it in perspective, Isopropyl Rubbing alcohol is 70% alcohol by volume. Everclear is 95%!!!"

You are reffering to alcohol content/concentration, i want to know what kind of alcohol it is, methyl alcohol, ethyl, propyl, butyl, benzyl? one think you deffinetly dont want to do is inject you self with methyl alcohol.
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y not?

I'm not sure what kind of alcohol it is. It's grain alchohol."

methanol is toxic, not intended for human consumption
 
Dunno guys, this all sounds really shady and unhealthy. I would feel like a heroin addict doing this. When i read posts like this i really wish anabolics were available from a medical proffesional and pharmacy so as to avoid this craziness.
 
horsePOWER said:
how many do you usually make at one time? about how long could it sit?

I like to make a whole weeks worth at a time. I'm not sure how long it can stay in that state but it's potency doesn't seem to go anywhere for that duration.


gwl9dta4 said:
Dunno guys, this all sounds really shady and unhealthy. I would feel like a heroin addict doing this. When i read posts like this i really wish anabolics were available from a medical proffesional and pharmacy so as to avoid this craziness.

Oh, and the "kit" is any better with that mystery solution?! Get real. Why should you feel like you're doing heroin any more than any other injectable steroid?
 
ive seen 68gt make gains off that method with my own eyes,he droped bf and got some muscle off it,,obviously the tren absorbed..more power to you bro! im all about innovation;)
 
Wow.....

You guys are crazy...

If you are really cheap.. I think the acetone methond is better.
 
Andy, don't go saying vague things like this and leave us hanging. This thread is here to sprout a discussion. If you don't agree, tell me why.

I think that buying a product with something called "magic" solution and using it without knowing what's in it is even crazier. At least I know what's breaking down my fina. Can you???!!!
 
Andy, don't go saying vague things like this and leave us hanging. This thread is here to sprout a discussion. If you don't agree, tell me why.

I think that buying a product with something called "magic" solution and using it without knowing what's in it is even crazier. At least I know what's breaking down my fina. Can you???!!!

Also, I'm not being cheap at all. Everclear costs money and so does everything else. I just hate ordering shit over mail, when I can just go to the local store.
 
I believe you got the idea from me, but my way is a bit different. I use component TH because it has less methylcellulose in it, which is the absolutely harmless binder used to hold the pills together. I also use vegetable oil because many people are allergic to sesame seed oil and I'm not sure if I'm one, but if I was then injecting it would surely put me in the hospital. Anyways here's my method which has worked great with never a problem!!

1) Figure out how strong you want each injection. I've done from 80 to 200mgs eod! We'll aim for making 10 injections of 100 mgs a piece. Push out 50 pills into a straw, bend the ends over and crush with a spoon. Dump your powder into a sterilized 30ml bottle.

2) You are aiming for a total solution of 20mls. 10 injections of 2ccs of 100mgs per 2ccs!! Suck up 5 cc's of everclear with a syringe and squirt in bottle. Put cap on. Take a small glass with a little water in it and microwave until hot then put the bottle in it for a few minutes. This will disolve anyleft over chunks of component in the bottle. Take bottle out and set on counter.

3) Take a small, clean pot and pour some vegetable oil in it. I usually heat it at 6 for about 10 min. Careful, do not even get a drop of water into the hot oil or it will explode! Turn off burner and let it sit for awhile, till it's not too hot to work with.

4) Suck up 15mls of oil in syringe and shoot it in the bottle of everclear and component TH. Shake up then draw out 2 ccs and you are ready to inject! Next I take a mason jar that is clean and I put my 30ml bottle in it for storage!

One thing I always do is everytime I inject I'll heat some water in a glass and put the bottle in it for a bit. This makes it easier to draw and shoot and usually in the bottle there is two distinct layers, but when it is heated and shook, it becomes just one. I mean you wouldn't just want to inject the oil or just the everclear and component would you.
I did this because I couldn't get a kit at first and it's worked great. Two cycles complete and never a problem except it can be painful once in awhile. I've gained 30 lbs while at the same time becoming too strong for my joints. Really!! Anyways I hope this helps and please no flames! It works it's easy and I know what I'm getting! I'll trust myself before I'll trust a magic solution!!
 
everclear (golden grain, whatever) is 190 proof alchohol....so its ethanol...if you drink methanol, it turns into formaldehyde in your gut. if the stuff is ok to drink, why would it hurt the muscle to inject? besides, u can get drunk afterwards on one or two shots :)
 
Yes Everclear is ethanol...which BTW is the only alcohol you want to be drinking. Also, ethyl alcohol and ethanol are the same thing for those who don't know.
 
In my opinion this screams..INFECTION!!!!!!!!, plus I think A is some type of biochemist, and in short knows what the hell he is doing. Despite this, you can find kits as cheap as $20, why would you want to go using straws, toothpicks and draino when you can use pharmaceutical grade equipment......not a flame, just something to think about.
 
I think you miss the point - you *need* the magic solution.
magic is what makes it work.
I've put on 8lbs in two weeks and lost 2% bodyfat (well, not really lost, likely just more muscle throws the percent relation off).
that is all due to the *magic*.
the tren is just there for something to pass the time and to give it a pretty color while the magic gets ready.

or maybe its the work of the devil... but I like to think it is magic.

could you at least call it "magic everclear" - then I think I might get better gains off of it. or "super magic everclear growth explosion" - then I just know I'd really get cut fast.

and if you ask me - there isn't enough butter in this recipe.
 
joeyz123 said:
In my opinion this screams..INFECTION!!!!!!!!, plus I think A is some type of biochemist, and in short knows what the hell he is doing. Despite this, you can find kits as cheap as $20, why would you want to go using straws, toothpicks and draino when you can use pharmaceutical grade equipment......not a flame, just something to think about.

no arguement here just opinion. NEXT!
 
Let me see, almost 100 injections with my method and never an infection, ever! If you use sterile equipment and you know how to sterilize then you shouldn't have a problem, ever!! Go ahead and buy a kit if you like, wait the extra time, spend the extra money, I don't care. My way works and it's the one I'll use!! Shit, I hear of different companies products on this board being contaminated and them getting everything from infections to gyno!! Fuck that!! I'll stick to my tried and true method! You know what, fuck it I'll make my own kit and I'll make lots of cash!! Have a nice day!!
 
tricepula said:
Let me see, almost 100 injections with my method and never an infection, ever! If you use sterile equipment and you know how to sterilize then you shouldn't have a problem, ever!! Go ahead and buy a kit if you like, wait the extra time, spend the extra money, I don't care. My way works and it's the one I'll use!! Shit, I hear of different companies products on this board being contaminated and them getting everything from infections to gyno!! Fuck that!! I'll stick to my tried and true method! You know what, fuck it I'll make my own kit and I'll make lots of cash!! Have a nice day!!

Tricepula, It might've been you, but I disagree with the making a vial of it. When I did that, I kept getting a bad mix of alcohol and oil since the fina/alcohol mix and the oil tend to seperate like italian dressing. Making individual syringes ensures better sterility and accurate dosage.

Also, the guy I learned the first method did it a bit different, so I doubt it was you.

Diesel JMB!!! Is that you, you gangbanger you?!!! How the hell is florida. I'm gonna IM you soon.
 
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joeyz123 said:
In my opinion this screams..INFECTION!!!!!!!!, plus I think A is some type of biochemist, and in short knows what the hell he is doing. Despite this, you can find kits as cheap as $20, why would you want to go using straws, toothpicks and draino when you can use pharmaceutical grade equipment......not a flame, just something to think about.

Dude, I explained that I sterilize. Do you think those fina pellets are sterile to begin with? I think not. Besides, I never said using draino??? That, my friend is nutso.

You THINK A is a biochemist??? Better get your facts straight. There's no room for assumptions here, bub.
 
Well you are right, the stuff does seperate, but if you put the bottle in hot water and heat the oil then shake it, it will remain a solution for awhile. The higher you heat it, the longer it will remain a solution in the bottle before it once again seperates. I tried preloading and I don't think it is very sanitary at all. Problem I had is that the oil will leak out into the cap a little and I know that bacteria love oil so I don't think that it is very good to preload. Of course that's my opinion and you probably disagree, but that's okay it worked for both of us!! I will be getting a kit for my next cycle, but it will be a kit that removes the estradiol from test prop in synovex or the new component EH I think it is. Getting test for cheap will be cool and I'll also have nolvadex and arimidex to avoid any gyno probs if the estradiol isn't completely removed. I rather make my own. It's cheaper, it won't ever be fake and I don't have to deal with people I don't know!! Just my 2 cents!!
 
68GT350

My method is VERY similar to yours using store bought stuff. I have posted the method in the past. It includes Everclear. I have had nothing but great gains from it and it cost under 10 bucks to make. I have had absolutley no problems with it. I say go for it and 68GT350 is right it's mo fun to do it this way.

WeeMan
 
tricepula

I have never used a kit for Syno but was VERY close to using some home made "WeeMan kit I came up with" I decided against it though. I will one day get the A kit though Let us know how it goes

WeeMan
 
uh oh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i'm bout to try this soon..............Boach,,,,,,,you'll be gettin some questions in PM soon.
 
pauly said:
uh oh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i'm bout to try this soon..............Boach,,,,,,,you'll be gettin some questions in PM soon.

No problemo. Just keep the pics of your penis away from me! :)
 
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