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Fina + Dbol
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I think you will be very pleased with that. As far as sides I would say: small increase in bp, mild headaches, difficulty sleeping. I really dont think you will have much to worry about with .37mg ed. Remember the you rest(sleep) the more you will gain. If you start having trouble sleeping you might want to get some ambien, or sonota, or my personal fav. Amitriptylen (sp?) which will also give you a good increase in appetite. Keep a watch on your bp, which should be ok, and you should be good to go. If your bp gets high, you will know due to the headaches.
bigdelt, I am thanking you ahead of time so THANKS! Youve been an awesome help man. Also, I wont have to worry much about bloat right? And one of my main concerns is: acne. Will this cycle cause me to break out? I dont think it will but what are the possibilities?
Chris
Chris
Test/ deca for first cycle 1ml of each a week
200 mg of test ew
300mg of deca a week
run this for about 8 weeks and eat like a hog/ at 6'2 155 you need to force feed your self eat 500mg of protien a day/6 whopers and a box of little debies a day anlong with a gallon of whole mile.
go buy ten boxes of little debies, the boxes have 12 snakes in each, each have 400calories eat two of these every two hours between meals eat 12 a day and you will grow like a weed.
I hade a friend that did this same diet , he was 145 and he ate everything he could get his hands on, he ate tons of junk food but always ate his protien and he got two 215 then he went on low carbs before the contest and he got to 6% bodyfat at 190. He took second in his show.
200 mg of test ew
300mg of deca a week
run this for about 8 weeks and eat like a hog/ at 6'2 155 you need to force feed your self eat 500mg of protien a day/6 whopers and a box of little debies a day anlong with a gallon of whole mile.
go buy ten boxes of little debies, the boxes have 12 snakes in each, each have 400calories eat two of these every two hours between meals eat 12 a day and you will grow like a weed.
I hade a friend that did this same diet , he was 145 and he ate everything he could get his hands on, he ate tons of junk food but always ate his protien and he got two 215 then he went on low carbs before the contest and he got to 6% bodyfat at 190. He took second in his show.
I've used fina with winny before, and had pains in my kidneys along with severe aggression and limp dick running 75ED and 25ed with the winny. I am speaking form experience buddy. The strength and size gains gains were incredible to me, but not worth the sides. Just as the other guys said. There are many better roids that can give you the desired affect.
I am not a fan of test at all due to the prostate issues, acne, water retention and it's lack of holding gains. I always have to prefered to use AS that are good at holding gains and retain minimal amounts of water.
Before I reccomend a cycle I would like you to know that I really think that eating like a horse and maybe taking some testrogel or andro with creatine could easily give you the desired affect within 6-8 months. So in conclusion I do not suggest usaing AS and strongly suggest you give up on the fina. That roid is very powerful and WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND IT TO A FIRST TIME USER
If you want 15 pounds and insist on using an AS then here's a cycle that I did that worked for me.
Week 1-6 Deca 200mg @200mg per week
Weeks 3-9 Winstrol @25mg ED or 50mg EOD
Weeks 9-11 clomid 300mg for 2 days 100mg for seven days 50mg for seven days
Weeks 9-12 clenbuterol 140mcg per day (grab some ketotifen if you can to clean your receptors.)
Maybe some of the hardcore guys will laugh at this cycle saying the dosing is not effective. Let me explain something to you buddy. As a first time user your receptors will not need high doses of any AS. You will see great gains with this cycle. Deca dick is talked about often> I've used deca at 600mg per week, never had a problem. If you're concerned grab some HCG. I'm not too educated on HCG so someone else would have to guide youo on that.
The winstrol is great as a cutter (with a clean diet) and battles progestrone sides that will unlkey happen with the deca at 200mg per week. The clomid will take care of the endogenous test levels which I don't think will totally shut down with such a dose. (don't quote me) It will also help to keep the gains. Clenbuterol is often overlooked for postcycle tharapy. Clenbuterol blocks cortisone which is a huge factor is losses of strength and size gains when coming off a cycle. The reason being is that when you stop all the juice your body produces excess amounts of cortisone which (I don't know exactly why) makes it impossible to retain the size and strength of the muscles.
Also very important is when off the AS cut your training and caloric intake by about 30%. Your body needs alot more rest and recovery time when you are O'naturale. You won't have to worry about bitch tits either(Unless you are EXTREMELY PRONE TO PRGOESTRONE SIDES) which winstrol halps to cancel out anyhow. Test and d-bol are TERRIBLE for the body and terrible for developing gyno.(bitch tits) D-bol will shut your shit down hard. Also terrible for retaining gains. If you plan on still doing the cycle you discussed I would grab a shitload of nolvadex,proviron, or arimedex.
(SORRY IF I MADE YOU FALL ASLEEP)
I am not a fan of test at all due to the prostate issues, acne, water retention and it's lack of holding gains. I always have to prefered to use AS that are good at holding gains and retain minimal amounts of water.
Before I reccomend a cycle I would like you to know that I really think that eating like a horse and maybe taking some testrogel or andro with creatine could easily give you the desired affect within 6-8 months. So in conclusion I do not suggest usaing AS and strongly suggest you give up on the fina. That roid is very powerful and WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND IT TO A FIRST TIME USER
If you want 15 pounds and insist on using an AS then here's a cycle that I did that worked for me.
Week 1-6 Deca 200mg @200mg per week
Weeks 3-9 Winstrol @25mg ED or 50mg EOD
Weeks 9-11 clomid 300mg for 2 days 100mg for seven days 50mg for seven days
Weeks 9-12 clenbuterol 140mcg per day (grab some ketotifen if you can to clean your receptors.)
Maybe some of the hardcore guys will laugh at this cycle saying the dosing is not effective. Let me explain something to you buddy. As a first time user your receptors will not need high doses of any AS. You will see great gains with this cycle. Deca dick is talked about often> I've used deca at 600mg per week, never had a problem. If you're concerned grab some HCG. I'm not too educated on HCG so someone else would have to guide youo on that.
The winstrol is great as a cutter (with a clean diet) and battles progestrone sides that will unlkey happen with the deca at 200mg per week. The clomid will take care of the endogenous test levels which I don't think will totally shut down with such a dose. (don't quote me) It will also help to keep the gains. Clenbuterol is often overlooked for postcycle tharapy. Clenbuterol blocks cortisone which is a huge factor is losses of strength and size gains when coming off a cycle. The reason being is that when you stop all the juice your body produces excess amounts of cortisone which (I don't know exactly why) makes it impossible to retain the size and strength of the muscles.
Also very important is when off the AS cut your training and caloric intake by about 30%. Your body needs alot more rest and recovery time when you are O'naturale. You won't have to worry about bitch tits either(Unless you are EXTREMELY PRONE TO PRGOESTRONE SIDES) which winstrol halps to cancel out anyhow. Test and d-bol are TERRIBLE for the body and terrible for developing gyno.(bitch tits) D-bol will shut your shit down hard. Also terrible for retaining gains. If you plan on still doing the cycle you discussed I would grab a shitload of nolvadex,proviron, or arimedex.
(SORRY IF I MADE YOU FALL ASLEEP)
damn that was a load of reading! But it was still very helpful and I will save it for future reference. But I still am goign to stick with fina. I'm going to PM you MrSkinny and talk to you through there as it seems you know what you are talking about. Thanks guys!
Chris
Chris
No flame bro....but steroids arent a fuckin miracle drug. Chances are if your that siza now you wont and dont know how to eat for AAS. You may think you eat like a BB cause you out eat more mashed potatoes than your old man at the table but that aint shit. Seriously you need to eat 6 times a day. You dont have to eat so much you puke, well you might, but a good ammount with high protein. Throw some mrps in there with your protein shakes. See the thing is, yes your going to grow on AS, ecspecially your first time. But chances are if you cant gain now, then your going to lose all you gain 100%. I see it all the time in a couple friends i have, But thats non of my business. Plus, heres the big key, your first cycle is your best by a longshot. Youll grow like a weed. So say you work hard and get to 185 or so then hit juice, you ll be way further ahead. Hope you listen bro. If you dont then get some test in there
