F'g awesome blood work results, need tips

[swole12014]

First, just wanted to thank everyone for all their tips on my first cycle of test e, dbol, and deca. Started off 5'9", 195, 15%bf, finished at 203, 10% (calorie control). Got my blood work back today, test serum norm levels for my age of 38 348-1197; my result, >1500, free test norms 8.7-25.1, my result >51. Liver and kidneys didn't fair too bad either with just minimal increased levels (doc says check back in 6 months. Everything else is superb. Thoughts on running detox between cycles? Am I correct in assuming after PCT is best?

 

[Arabian]

Your bloodwork turned out great. You could not ask for better results however are you going to stay on a TRT dose of Test say 250 per week year round or are you going to cycle off and on equal amounts of time? If you stay the TRT route then you do not need a full PCT regime however check out NTBM for all of there state of the art PCT therapy regimes. They really put the research and development in to ensure you are getting the very best PCT available. Use Radar15 for a discount code or pm me and I will personally assist you.

 

[Nelson Montana]

First, just wanted to thank everyone for all their tips on my first cycle of test e, dbol, and deca. Started off 5'9", 195, 15%bf, finished at 203, 10% (calorie control). Got my blood work back today, test serum norm levels for my age of 38 348-1197; my result, >1500, free test norms 8.7-25.1, my result >51. Liver and kidneys didn't fair too bad either with just minimal increased levels (doc says check back in 6 months. Everything else is superb. Thoughts on running detox between cycles? Am I correct in assuming after PCT is best?

Congrats on the cycle. You can go into liver detox right away. Stick with N2GUARD (which I presume you're using). The only ingredients that can improve on that are picroliv (which is in protein factory POST CYCLE) . That actually regenerates liver cells. Plus TUDCA and I'd throw in some Liv 52 for the hell of it.

By the way, the new version of N2GUARD will have Tudca, picroliv and the active ingredients in Liv 52 so it will be the ultimate unstoppable liver protection product.

 

[stevesmi]

maybe its early in the morning but what the fuck am I reading here?

you ran blood work while you were still on cycle and got bloods showing high T, ummm... that's normal. you still have hormones in your system..all that proved was your gear was legit. its gonna take 5-6 weeks from your last injection for your esters to clear ... if you bothered to check your LH and FSH you would of gotten a reality check quick. your doctor is a fucking idiot for not checking those

and also who on here gave you advice to run a dbol/deca/test 1st cycle? I guarantee you in about 4 weeks you will be back on here and crying that you can't get an erection and you feel like shit. yes you need a pct http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html and you should start it immediately as the hormones are leaving your body.

oh and fire your idiot doctor for not realizing what I just posted

 

[Nelson Montana]

maybe its early in the morning but what the fuck am I reading here?

you ran blood work while you were still on cycle and got bloods showing high T, ummm... that's normal. you still have hormones in your system..all that proved was your gear was legit. its gonna take 5-6 weeks from your last injection for your esters to clear ... if you bothered to check your LH and FSH you would of gotten a reality check quick. your doctor is a fucking idiot for not checking those

and also who on here gave you advice to run a dbol/deca/test 1st cycle? I guarantee you in about 4 weeks you will be back on here and crying that you can't get an erection and you feel like shit. yes you need a pct http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html and you should start it immediately as the hormones are leaving your body.

oh and fire your idiot doctor for not realizing what I just posted

No mention of how long he's been off but of course that's a big factor. I also would recomened to anyone reading this not to use dbol and deca together. There's a much higher risk of gyno with that combo.

 

[stevesmi]

No mention of how long he's been off but of course that's a big factor. I also would recomened to anyone reading this not to use dbol and deca together. There's a much higher risk of gyno with that combo.

do you really believe his T levels are >1500 off cycle? I don't either.

people make the mistake of running bloodwork too soon before the esters have even cleared the body then they hop back on juice without even allowing the body to recover. this is a major mistake I see a lot with guys and essentially they are just staying on when they do that

OP you gotta run bloods several weeks AFTER pct. not during pct. and you need to give your body atleast time on= time off to recover depending on what you ran. sometimes it can take 6 months to recover.

 

[littleb]

maybe its early in the morning but what the fuck am I reading here?

you ran blood work while you were still on cycle and got bloods showing high T, ummm... that's normal. you still have hormones in your system..all that proved was your gear was legit. its gonna take 5-6 weeks from your last injection for your esters to clear ... if you bothered to check your LH and FSH you would of gotten a reality check quick. your doctor is a fucking idiot for not checking those

and also who on here gave you advice to run a dbol/deca/test 1st cycle? I guarantee you in about 4 weeks you will be back on here and crying that you can't get an erection and you feel like shit. yes you need a pct http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html and you should start it immediately as the hormones are leaving your body.

oh and fire your idiot doctor for not realizing what I just posted

+1..... I like the way you call it like it is.... no b.s good mod...

 

[RickRock13]

Yeh, this hormone panel bloodwork is pretty much pointless really. Bloods should be done after all esters have cleared and a couple weeks after PCT to see where everything is at. The only thing the test is reading is the exogenous hormones still in your body, and not your own

 

[swole12014]

Ouch. What a mean group of SOBs you are! With regards to running blood too soon, my objective was to ensure I had good gear. With all that other negativity you're spewing, I don't compete, don't make a living of my build or anything similar. Helps me get laid a little more and avoid fat man discrimination in many instances. All that said, thanks for the suggestions but it's not all that serious to me to continue running to the doctor's office, etc etc. My only concern is that my health is good, (I've been off cycle about 5 weeks now and everything came back normal a couple days ago per my regular physician), and I maintain MOST of my gains, which I have. Btw, I may have lots to learn but am no idiot. I know not to start a cycle for at minimum your last cycle including PCT, which went pretty good by the way. My dick worked fine though I was a little tired on occasion, no worries. You seem to be a pretty knowledgeable guy Steve. May be more beneficial to ask questions for understanding rather than assuming and resorting to being an ass first, or not speak at all.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ your dick will work fine while hormones are in your system.. but watch another few weeks when things trickle out and see what happens.

i'm not giving you shit for running bloods.. i'm giving you shit for running 3 wet compounds for a first cycle.. you dodged a big bullet here and you don't even know it.

if I sound like an ass then sorry.. but you know how many guys run that stack as a first cycle and then end up with gyno?

and yes your bloods confirmed you had good gear, but the real blood work comes after pct. then we will celebrate. I've seen guys run that stack and 6 months after having total T levels in the 100's or 200's .. enjoy the way you feel now cause its gonna be a rough recovery.. I would get on PCT ASAP

 

[VikingBro]

Ouch. What a mean group of SOBs you are! With regards to running blood too soon, my objective was to ensure I had good gear. With all that other negativity you're spewing, I don't compete, don't make a living of my build or anything similar. Helps me get laid a little more and avoid fat man discrimination in many instances. All that said, thanks for the suggestions but it's not all that serious to me to continue running to the doctor's office, etc etc. My only concern is that my health is good, (I've been off cycle about 5 weeks now and everything came back normal a couple days ago per my regular physician), and I maintain MOST of my gains, which I have. Btw, I may have lots to learn but am no idiot. I know not to start a cycle for at minimum your last cycle including PCT, which went pretty good by the way. My dick worked fine though I was a little tired on occasion, no worries. You seem to be a pretty knowledgeable guy Steve. May be more beneficial to ask questions for understanding rather than assuming and resorting to being an ass first, or not speak at all.

I'm no expert, or intermediate and probably would fail as a novice when it comes to aas. However, after reading the title of the thread and reading the original post I asked "where are the rest of the numbers?"

To you have the other results you can post? for F'g awesome bloods I was expecting high end range of normal for the good stuff, low end range of normal for the bad stuff and all signs pointing to a full and awesome recovery.

 

[swole12014]

Should I had done longer than the 5 weeks pct I did? Liqui clomi, aromasin, teststack rx, and ostarine at dosages the mods here typically recommend. I did feel pretty bad, up until a couple of days ago.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ considering it takes 5-6 weeks for a deca ester to even clear your system what good is a 5 week pct?

you need to run minimal 8 weeks and probably push it to 12 after deca. that's why its a bad choice for a first cycle.

 

[swole12014]

Guess that's why you're an expert and I'm not. I had already decided not to ever do it again because seems like it lets you injure yourself without knowing thus, once you come off, bam, you're screwed because you've made a minor injury worse working through it. I'm taking lots of b6, teststack rx, and have both some liquiclomi and liquidex. I'll pay attention to my body and adjust as needed. Thanks for the insight.

 

[swole12014]

Btw, you do have a point about too many wet compounds. Within a couple of weeks of starting the cycle, I felt like the Hulk, but my nips were looking pretty big, and really sensitive. I cut the dbol dosage in half at that point to like 10mg/day and ran the deca 8 weeks vs the recommended 10. My last deca pin was right around June 5th

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ 2 wet and 1 dry.. or 1 wet and 1 dry

never 2 wet or 2 dry. especially for a newb