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Favorite 2 choices for gear

favorite 2 choices for gear?

  • DBol

    Votes: 116 20.1%

  • Test (any kind will do)

    Votes: 404 69.9%

  • EQ

    Votes: 94 16.3%

  • Anavar

    Votes: 87 15.1%

  • Primobolan

    Votes: 47 8.1%

  • Deca

    Votes: 108 18.7%

  • Winstrol

    Votes: 72 12.5%

  • Anadrol

    Votes: 22 3.8%

  • Fina (other form of Tren)

    Votes: 150 26.0%

  • Growth Hormone

    Votes: 41 7.1%
  • Total voters
    578
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little chris

little chris

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Tried this poll before but placed it in the wrong forum, sorrry guys.
What are your 2 favorite choices for gear or your 2 most used, just curious.
 
Another one of these, eh?

The answer is often going to be "whatever 2 the person has used."

The question should be, "for those who have used them ALL, which 2 do you think are best?"

Actually, there are only 4 viable choices when it comes to roids.

Test (preferably sus)
Var
Primo
D-bol

Everything else is second rate.
 
liftsiron: Honestly; How much better is adding EQ than just taking more test and more var?
 
Nelson Montana said:
Actually, there are only 4 viable choices when it comes to roids.

Test (preferably sus)
Var
Primo
D-bol

Everything else is second rate.
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Your ration is wrong as each person defines the word viable differently. To one person the cons of an anabolic might be worth it, to another they won't be.

Test sucks for me, I have never had more horrible side effects from anything else and gained nothing. Anavar was another "winner." Never tried primo though ...

Fina and dbol are my choices.

-sk
 
Among all the things I tried (Test, anavar, deca, dbols, winny... what else ?): test and anavar.
 
Nelson do believe that EQ and Anavar show basically the same results? I thought that EQ was better for vascularity and putting on a little size where as anavar was mostly for strength.
 
Someone just asked me what was comparable to Primo and I said Var, but I guess EQ would be a more accurate answer.

I tend to disregard vet gear because I just don't trust it. In terms of an anabolic/androgenic ratio, Primo, var and Eq are very similar. But whereas var and primo have virtually no side effects, I can't say the same for EQ, thus, I can't in good concionce recommend it.

I know var has a recomndation as a strength drug and it's been postulated that it has something to do with creatine synthesis. Truthfuly, I find all orals to be superior in regard to providing strength gains.
 
Ok Nelson here's my situation, I have 8 amps (250) of schering testoviron depot and about 1250 5mg denkall anavar. I was going to add in QV EQ for 8 weeks (around 300mg) too but do you think its a watse of money and I can get pretty much the same results on a 8-10 week cycle of just var and test or should I add the EQ and go for a 12 weeker. I just feel that 8 weeks isn't gonna give me the results I want which are 15lbs of lean mass.
 
Well, if you''re familiar with my concepts you know I don't believe in long cycles.

Sure, you can add the EQ, but it's essentially more drug. You might as well add more test or more var.

How many pounds you want to gain is irrelevant. The body can only hold on to so many pounds gained at once. (I believe 10 to be the maximum). So you can gain 80 pounds if you like, but you'll still only wind up with 10 -- if you're lucky. Since the body likes to maintain homeostatis, you might hang on to more, but it'll be fat.
 
without a question, thehands down winner is..................

WINSTROL DEPOT AT 400MG A WEEK.
 
machaveli said:
it has been test and dball but its about to change to test and fina
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Test and Fina have always won. I had a thread going about a year ago, over 30,000 hits ... Test and Fina won.

-sk
 
One thing I overlooked is the fact that many people don't care about the health sides.

For example, test and winny will yield similar results to test and var, but your lipid profile would be far worse.
 
test and FINA. Love winny too when stacked w/fina. Deca provided nice gains when stacked with sust. Dbol makes you blow up. Looking forward to trying a EQ/Fina/winny stack w/ a light dose of test.
 
hey nelson-
i know yo don't like long cycles, so what is the max number of weeks you would run var with another mild side effect one such as primo?

also what are your thoughts on running it with another oral?

primo, dbol, ect.

thanks
 
Primo and var woould be very mild and you can stretch it out a bit longer. I wouldn't do d-bol for more than 3 weeks, but I realize that's conservative for some people.
 
liftsiron: Honestly; How much better is adding EQ than just taking more test and more var?


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Adding EQ is far better than just doing more test and var, eq gives you added hardness with a hell of lot more vascularity. If one were to follow your narrow range of thought, why not just do more test and forget the anavar altogether?
:)
 
Also Nelson if you so concerned with helth why would you list D-bol as one of your choices, EQ is far less harsh than d-bol on a mg per mg basis.
 
liftsiron: What you consider my "narrow range of thought" is probably just your inability to realize your own lack of comprehension. (Insert smiley face here)

Avavar provides the anabolic qualities without the androgenic side effects -- THAT's why you can't just use more test. But the hardness and vascularity you'd get from EQ can be achieved by using more Var. (Think about it and I'm sure it will sink in.)

The reason I recommend D-bol is because it's so effective -- FAR more effective than EQ, mg for mg. You don't need a lot of d-bol.

Come on, it isn't that hard to figure out. But it seems a lot of people are too eager to argue without investing any thought into what I'm saying here. I always provide reasons behind my statements, whereas I feel some people take it as a persoanl attack on what they like. They get defensive, and then they get insulting. And as everyone knows, that's when the REAL smart opinions begin!
 
Come on, it isn't that hard to figure out. But it seems a lot of people are too eager to argue without investing any thought into what I'm saying here. I always provide reasons behind my statements, whereas I feel some people take it as a persoanl attack on what they like. They get defensive, and then they get insulting. And as everyone knows, that's when the REAL smart opinions begin!

No you rarely give reason, you just espect people to take you at your word, which often is incorrect. You need to come off your high horse buddy, I bought your book and consider it a pure waste of money, even for a beginner to these boards. (insert smile Face)
 
liftsiron......

i've read your posts on this board for a while and i think you're a fuckin miserable, lost, asshole!

what dont you take a fuckin chill pill and if that doesn't work then a loaded 38 to the cranium should do you some justice...BITCH!
 
leancuisine liftsiron......

i've read your posts on this board for a while and i think you're a fuckin miserable, lost, asshole!

what dont you take a fuckin chill pill and if that doesn't work then a loaded 38 to the cranium should do you some justice...BITCH!


Ahh, leancusine once agin, the inbred little hillbilly bitch speaks out. And once agin you have nothing useful to offer you worthless, lifeless 23rd chromasome missing faggot.
 
As for you Nelson, I have nothing against you, and your e-book would be helpful to novices, so I retract my previous statement, but never the less your arrogance annoys me some of the time.:)
 
Aah, I know you don't mean what you say sometimes liftiron. I've heard you praise my book, calling it "an excellant read." Now you're pissed because I corrected you. But I got arrogent because I felt you were being disrespectful. ("narrow range of thought"? WTF?)

This is exactly the type of stuff that we need to avoid on this board. EVERYBODY chill.
 
Aah, I know you don't mean what you say sometimes liftiron. I've heard you praise my book, calling it "an excellant read." Now you're pissed because I corrected you. But I got arrogent because I felt you were being disrespectful. ("narrow range of thought"? WTF?)

This is exactly the type of stuff that we need to avoid on this board.

I have to agree with you, sometime I am a little to fast on the draw, I also felt that you were somewhat disrespectful, so I added a little unneccessary sentiment. Once agin I will state that I am of the opinion that eq, anavar and test is far superior as far as the compitition look goes, compared to higher doses of anavar and test alone which will not give you the added vascularity that eq will. As I said before I agree with you much more than I disagree with you, nice thread on chest training by the way.
 
Hey Nelson after consideration I'm thinking of dropping EQ from my (testoviron, anavar cycle) not because I don't think it will produce good results, I just don't feel like injeting myself 2-3 time a week. I would like to substitute it with another oral that will produce decent quality gains that aren't all water. I thought of Dbol but I figured that may be too much on the water retention along with the test. What would the minimum dosage of dbol be to see results without heavy side effects...10mg,15mg per day? I don't want to crash after my cycle.
 
I can't believe that everybody is forgetting this unbelievable stack : Cell-Tech + Nitro-Tech = amazing results
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LOL !

My favourite so far is test and dbol, will try anavar in the future when I,ll be rich though :fro:
 
YOu guys please keep the personaly bickering to PM or e-mail. Yes this is a problem on the boards when you have to read through 10 posts of childish fighting to get to the goods you are looking for.

Now ... I have tried everything on the list except for Anadrol, Fina, and Growth Hormone (and I dont ever plan on using these). These are my favorites in descending order.

1.Primo
2.Anavar
3.EQ
4.Test
5.Dbol
6.winny
7.Deca

Nelson, have you ever done EQ before? I think that you really underestimate this drug. It is a great anabolic. I would normally use primo in its place, but there is not much of a choice nowadays because of how rare primo has become. When buying EQ from an underground lab, say like L-F-C for example, there is no difference in the standards in which it is made compared to say L-F-C Enanthate. Now buying from a vet, and a human pharmacy, there will be a difference in the standards. I love EQ.

Cheers,
Mavy
 
Diesel3d said:
test and dbol.

Learned fromexperience there is no reason to mess with anything else.
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true, id throw fina up there but i don't like the fact that im pissing out apple cider colored urine,aggression,and insomnia
so its:
test/dbol -strong anti E for me
 
Right now i like test/dbol.... as i get older and assumably more wealthy i'll be going with GH/anavar/EQ stacks to keep sides to a minimum and try to keep my body looking fit.
 
I can't understand how you guys can spend that much money on GH, but to each his own. I've been wanting to try EQ but it seems preety hit or miss since their are alot of QV and Ttokkyo fakes going around, and with the exception of Denkall everything else requires a million stabs a week.
 
All depends.

For pure strength and mass I prefered dbol and test.

But when I don't want to look like a pufferfish I lean towards the test/anavar cycle. Expensive, but well worth it...
 
Nelson Montana said:
How many pounds you want to gain is irrelevant. The body can only hold on to so many pounds gained at once. (I believe 10 to be the maximum
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So a short cycle gaining about 10lb would be better and if I was to start another cycle would I gain another 10lbs and get to keep that also?

(Providing I worked at it with diet, exercse, etc)

Gel
 
tren, and more tren. Test is great for rounding out a cycle, but it isn't anything worthy of being a fav. Hopefully in a month I will be able to replace the "more tren" with var.
 
Prior to my last cycle, I would have said test/d-bol. Then I found tren!!!!!! Now, test/tren.
 
TEST and EQ on the injectable

My favorite stack:

Test Enan or Cyp
EQ
D-bol
 
Nelson Montana said:
The body can only hold on to so many pounds gained at once. (I believe 10 to be the maximum). So you can gain 80 pounds if you like, but you'll still only wind up with 10 -- if you're lucky. Since the body likes to maintain homeostatis, you might hang on to more, but it'll be fat.
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Ok, so my cycle where I went from 160 to 200, went down to 190 were mostly "fake" gains, even though messurments at my biopath showed a massgain of more than 2/3?

I guess I'm just special..
 
"Another one of these, eh?

The answer is often going to be "whatever 2 the person has used."

The question should be, "for those who have used them ALL, which 2 do you think are best?"

Actually, there are only 4 viable choices when it comes to roids.

Test (preferably sus)
Var
Primo
D-bol

Everything else is second rate."


What an arrogant statement. I am beginning to see what your theory on BB and AAS is Nelson: If it works for me, then it must work for everyone else. etc etc. IE- no cardio, whatever it is.

Different diets work for different metabolisms/lifestyles, different workout routines work for difft people, and difft AAS also work for difft people. There are no generalities here.

Its like saying Fina causes hairloss, don't use it. I know lots of guys who claim to have lost no hair on Fina. I am not one of them so I don't use it. That doesn't mean I am gonna say "no one should use Fina"

Every diet/workout routine/ and cycle needs to be tailored to the individual.

PG


Having said that, My personal fav's are EQ/VAR!!!
 
I've tried test (omnadren), winstrol, d-bol, and deca. Had my best results off the classic deca/d-bol stack, but i'm still looking for somethin better.
 
Mackavelli said:
eq and anavar
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HOLLA! theres my cycle in two days!.. quick question though... i hoenstly was alot bigger then i am now about 1 year ago. I went into a downward slump and stopped lifting and lost alot of weight. My main concern is right now i odnt have neough muscle on me to do the eq and anavar cycle effectively. It doesnt just harden you up and make you more vascular correct? It will add a small amount of lean muscle correct? So if i am 176-178 the minute i wake up in the morning i should end up at 184 no? The reaosn for askign this is so i know whether or not to substitude a more bulking substance with anavar instead of EQ. I have access to real primo.. i just would rather spend a shitload less for a shitlaod more eq.
 
pharmguy said:
You will gain plenty with EQ, depending on how much you eat/train!
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thanks bro.. appreciate the input.. the reaosn being becasue i lost mad weight (not in a good way) and am not exactly fileld with muscle right now. So i wanan gain some but dont want to blow up on test. Took deca before and loved the gains i got even off 6 weeks (i had to stop prematurely).. but afraid of the sidesevryone talks about.
 
little chris said:
I can't understand how you guys can spend that much money on GH, but to each his own. I've been wanting to try EQ but it seems preety hit or miss since their are alot of QV and Ttokkyo fakes going around, and with the exception of Denkall everything else requires a million stabs a week.
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Yea GH is mad expensive. I work at a pharmaceutical company that deals with GH in high quantities, and I can tell you it is insane what they charge for GH. I don't believe I'm allowed to post prices, so I'll leave that off. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Growth Hormone by far is the best overall best. Even though it is the most expensive thing to take the results outweigh everything else.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by pharmguy
You will gain plenty with EQ, depending on how much you eat/train!

I am on 800mg/wk of EQ, I eat about 250g of protein and about 4000 calories and train hard 5 days a week and haven't gained anything. No strength, no mass, only a belly that sticks out from all the food and meal replacement/protein shakes. :mad:
 
Tried fina and got nothing but sore nips and bad night sweats. Best results I've ever gotten have been from test/eq cycles. Currently running sust/var.....1st time with var so if this goes better, I'll change my vote.
 
Test and GH if you have the money! You must be joking if you think Arnold, Kevin Levrone, Flex Wheeler etc got so big on only AS. The GH breaks out over your genetics! AS only makes you come to the best genetics you can have so if you have poor genetics it will not take you longer than that only help you get there faster.
 
trampletheweak said:
Quote:
Originally posted by pharmguy
You will gain plenty with EQ, depending on how much you eat/train!

I am on 800mg/wk of EQ, I eat about 250g of protein and about 4000 calories and train hard 5 days a week and haven't gained anything. No strength, no mass, only a belly that sticks out from all the food and meal replacement/protein shakes. :mad:
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Regardless of your dosage, EQ is alone is not ideal for building mass period. You may see some gains much later in the cycle say about week 8 depending on your responses to EQ for some can start seeing gains sooner. It's best to stack it with a true mass building like test or dbol or just use it to cut down. This is the reason why EQ cause so much anxiety being that too many expect it to do so much more just because it is a known AAS without understanding whatEQ was designed to do.
 
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