Fat loss - Round 2

[Cuts]

I'm gonna start dieting hardcore again tomorrow... gotta shed some blubber quick. My goal is to lose 15lbs in 2 1/2 weeks (from 9/23 to 10/10). I'm gonna restrict cals bigtime, do AM lifting and cardio, and use NYC. I'll incorporate some carb-ups to keep leptin levels high where I deem fit. Anybody wanna team up... give me a little competition maybe ?

 

[Cobin]

I'll compete with you, I gained a few pds , I fucked up my bulking diet basically eating everything in sight when I knew better, gonna lean out again before I bulk again, I read the gains are better. I will try and lose 5-10lbs in 2 wks, hows that?


Edited to add, I think this will be good motivation for me, thanks for making a challenge like this, its what i need.

 

[georgie24]

your on bro!!

i need to drop 20

 

[Cuts]

I'll compete with you, I gained a few pds , I fucked up my bulking diet basically eating everything in sight when I knew better, gonna lean out again before I bulk again, I read the gains are better. I will try and lose 5-10lbs in 2 wks, hows that?

Edited to add, I think this will be good motivation for me, thanks for making a challenge like this, its what i need.

10 lbs in 2 weeks is totally doable... but it's gonna take some serious discipline and will-power. I lost 17 lbs in 2 weeks last month... and most of that was fat too.

In regard to your PM to me which stated...

"1136cals 21.5gf 223gp gf=grams of fat sgf=saturated grams of fat gp=grams of protein"

I think this is TOO low bro. I mean, I know you're only like 150 lbs so you need less cals than me but 1100 is almost nothing--I say up the cals to about 1500 and incorporate some AM-empty stomach lifting + cardio everyday... wait an hour to 1 1/2 hours after that to eat your first "meal" and make that a shake with mostly protein and some low GI carbs (I use uncooked oatmeal). IMHO, you oughtta eat 5 meals/day, spaced about 3 hours apart each... with meals 1,3,5 being shakes, and only meals 2 & 4 being real food.

This is what I ate to lose that 17 lbs last time:

Meal 1 (1 1/2 hours after AM lifting & cardio) - 1 1/2 scoops Triple Threat + 1/4 cup uncooked oatmeal with water--blended

Meal 2 - 3" Subway chicken breast Subway sandwich with double meat

Meal 3 - 1 scoop TT with water

Meal 4 - the remaining 3" from the aformentioned sandwich

Meal 5 - 1 scoop TT with water

I know this isn't much food, and it was damn tough sometimes, but looking in the mirror every morning seeing the fat coming off helped me to stick with it. I ate some extra carbs for Meals 1-3 every 3-4 days to keep my leptin levels up (and to keep my sanity).

I'll post my #s tomorrow morning when I take them, and I'll remeasure every week. Good luck, and keep us posted as to your progress. later

 

[Cuts]

your on bro!!

i need to drop 20

Let's do it bro... I think if you really turn on the discipline, you can do that within a month. good luck

 

[Cobin]

Ok,I have a treadmill I do my cardio on, would it be wise to do 45min AM cardio first then eat 1 1/2 hrs later then goto the gym during the day when I can? I lift 3 days a week/each muscle once a week, gonna stay heavy to try and prevent muscle loss. I will post my stats tomorrow and update weekly. How often do you carb up? I wasn't gonna carb up for the first 14 days then carbup one day maybe 150g-200g complex clean carbs then diet again the next day, that sound right?


Thanks

 

[Cuts]

Ok,I have a treadmill I do my cardio on, would it be wise to do 45min AM cardio first then eat 1 1/2 hrs later then goto the gym during the day when I can? I lift 3 days a week/each muscle once a week, gonna stay heavy to try and prevent muscle loss. I will post my stats tomorrow and update weekly. How often do you carb up? I wasn't gonna carb up for the first 14 days then carbup one day maybe 150g-200g complex clean carbs then diet again the next day, that sound right?

Thanks

IMHO, 3 days/week lifting each muscle group once/week is fine if one is trying to put on size, but if your main goal is to maximize fat loss, the best you'll be able to do is maintain muscle--not put any new muscle on... and IMO the best maintenance workout regime is a BFL style one--that's what I've been doing and it's working quite well for me. And I don't know about going heavy--I'd stick b/w 8-12 perfect form reps with moderate weight if I were you.

Cardio sounds good.

14 days without a carb up!? Par deus would have a heart attack if he heard this ! No way bro... you gotta keep leptin in check... 14 days with low/no carbs is way too long. Like I said, I personally "carb-up" one every 3-4 days for meals 1-3, but you may need to more or less often. I think the best gauge to decide when you need a carb-up is a subjective one--just judge how you feel--your body will tell you when it needs carbs, and this will most likely be every 3-7 days. Good luck.

 

[Cuts]

O.k., stats as of 9/23:

197.5 lbs
32% bf (as per my Tanita scale--I think it overestimates by about 5%) -- 63.2 lbs of blubber

Goal to reach by 10/10 (17 days of dieting):

182.5 lbs
26% bf -- represents a 15lb fat loss with 100% muscle maintenance

I'll remeasure next Monday.

 

[Cobin]

Don't think I'd be able to put much muscle on while dieting , just want to mantain what I have, I keep reps 8-10 while mantaining.

I'll post my measurements later, thanks.

 

[MkZk]

Yo Cuts!

U studied in hungary? Me too. Which univeristy?

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Was going to post stats Saturday, but was embarrased.

237.8#
31.9%Bf

I was shooting to loose 28.6 pounds of fat before Thanksgiving, would get me down to 22.5% (sparing muscle loss).

I have dropped carbs down, only getting them from vegetables, no breads, pastas, sugars. Eating lots of tuna steak, chicken, and vegetables, occassionally a 93% lean hamburger patty for a treat. Will refeed this Saturday on my leg day, and every Saturday afterwards.

Doing am cardio, lifting in the afternoon. No time in the morning to lift, I have to leave for work at 5am lots of days, meaning 3am wake up call to jog.

If I could loose 10# in 2 weeks I would be estatic. I would go celebrate with an extralarge meat pizza, then would have to do it again the next week.

I'll keep up with this thread, let's do it.

 

[Cuts]

Yo Cuts!

U studied in hungary? Me too. Which univeristy?

DOTE in Debrecen... how'd you know I studied there? What about you?

 

[Cuts]

If I could loose 10# in 2 weeks I would be estatic. I would go celebrate with an extralarge meat pizza, then would have to do it again the next week.

I'll keep up with this thread, let's do it.

It CAN be done bro... 10lbs in 2 weeks CAN be done (I don't know about that pizza celebration though lol ).

What kind of thermogenic(s) you using? NYC is the SHIT for me.

Yeah... LET'S DO IT.

 

[georgie24]

OK IM IN. is it for one month or our goal? id rather do it for a month all out

 

[MkZk]

DOTE in Debrecen

I read it in one of your posts somewhere. I'm in Szeged. Yeah, it's easy to get gear here as u mentioned.

u still after the GQ, lean look? "cause if u are I'd recommend: moderate protein (not high), high carbs, low fat. Weight train as hard as you'd normally do, but do lots of cardio. At least 30 min 6 days a week.

It worked well for me. I'm ripped now. Lean face. Still got strength. Today I did one arm rows for 5 reps with the 145lb @ a body weight of 156 pounds.

 

[Cuts]

OK IM IN. is it for one month or our goal? id rather do it for a month all out

Well, I'm going for 6 weeks total... till Oct. 31st... gonna drop 27.5 lbs by then. One month ALL OUT sounds badass bro. DO IT. Time to turn on the DISCIPLINE.

 

[Cuts]

u still after the GQ, lean look? "cause if u are I'd recommend: moderate protein (not high), high carbs, low fat. Weight train as hard as you'd normally do, but do lots of cardio. At least 30 min 6 days a week.

It worked well for me. I'm ripped now. Lean face. Still got strength. Today I did one arm rows for 5 reps with the 145lb @ a body weight of 156 pounds.

Yeah bro... I want that GQ/Men's Health cover boy look... and I gotta get it in a hurry cuz interviews (residency) start up for me real soon.

Those are some sick poundages at your BW! I gotta get my lean face back bro... that and a 6-pack and I'll be a happy man... I don't give a shit about strength... I just wanna look good for the ladies !

You've got a PM...

 

[Cobin]

Wasn't able to get to a scale today, will put stats up tomorrow


For cardio I did, 3 runs at the 40 yrd dash then 30 mins slow pace cardio after that at 140bpm then tonight I do firefighting training so we do PT, did 8 laps around the parking lot along with pushups,jumping jacks etc.

I ate like shit today though, was out of eggs and low on cottage cheese, So I had 3/4 cup cottage cheese 1 can tuna 9oz chicken and about 5-6 tbsps of natty pb. Not really that hungry though, I will buy some food tomorrow and be set, right now I feel pretty good, think I lost some waterweight cause I feel alittle thinner and not as loose in the gut region.


Post my stats tomorrow.

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

It CAN be done bro... 10lbs in 2 weeks CAN be done (I don't know about that pizza celebration though lol ).

What kind of thermogenic(s) you using? NYC is the SHIT for me.

Yeah... LET'S DO IT.

Yeah, NYC is the shit, I ussually rotate it every two weeks with Hydroxycut.

 

[MrRTTB]

I think it is possible. I've lost lots of fat in no time. If I'm hungry I eat some sallad and protein like fish or chicken. I Eat carbs 4 meals per day, but never more than 50g per meal. I'm a student and have tried to go below 150g carbs per day, but it is to tuff and It makes me crazy, I can't study or anything if I go to low on the carbs, I get tired as hell too. I eat about 300g of protein, 200g carbs and 50g fat from omega3. I do morningcardio as long fast walks for one hour 4 times per week. Also train in the gym every other day while cutting. I eat very slow GI carbs, only from fiber oatmeal with psyliumseeds that lower the GI even more. I take ALA to each carb meal(4 carb meals per day).

 

[Cuts]

Yeah, NYC is the shit, I ussually rotate it every two weeks with Hydroxycut.

Why do you do that? Have you found it/they work better rotating them like that?

And how would you compare Hydroxycut to Xenadrine & Betalean? Thanks!

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Why do you do that? Have you found it/they work better rotating them like that?

And how would you compare Hydroxycut to Xenadrine & Betalean? Thanks!

I think it keeps your body at a lower tolerance, for awhile ephedra, then nor-ephedra. Seems to work good with the NYC as far as ECA's, I have a pretty good tolerance. Hydroxy and old Xena are comparable, never have tried Betalean.

I bought some ketostrips today, I estimate I am around 140 mg/dL. Whatever that means, I know, lots of ketones in my urine. I do wonder if that is too much though. I have read that people in the Cambridge Diet, late 70's, died because their bodies started turning to their hearts protien for energy source.

The strip is nice though, at least I know I am burning fat from somewhere.

 

[Cuts]

I think it keeps your body at a lower tolerance, for awhile ephedra, then nor-ephedra. Seems to work good with the NYC

I think I might just have to give that a try... thanks ... karma your way...

 

[SteelWeaver]

If you like the CNS effects of ECA (i.e. the boost), then cycle away, but apparently the thermogenic effects of ECA increase the longer you're on the stuff. Unfortunately the same doesn't hold true for NYC, so the benefits drop and tolerance develops the longer you're on it, so maybe it's worth cycling the NYC but not the ECA ...

Anyway, there was a thread about this on the women's board a while ago - I think it might even have been my thread - something about thermogenics work better the longer you're on them. MS and Ceebs, I think, posted some great links and info in there if you're interested in knowing more ......

 

[Cuts]

Thanks Steel... karma for you ...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Thanx Steel, that backs up my hypothesis that it works for the NYC but not the ECA. But throws another look at the ECA. Seems the longer I use them though the less I feel them. As far as fat-burning properties, that is another subject.

I know if I keep caffiene out of my diet for a couple months and then do some it is potent as hell.

I am starting to dread having to refeed on Saturday, thought I would look forward to it.

Karma to ya cuts and steel.

 

[PoyeBoy]

Hey yall, just read this thread for the first time, I am on sort of on a keto diet so maybe I can be in on this too.

Stats:
5'9"
188
about 12-13% bf
Can see top four abs good, but bottom 2 are almost non-appearent

I have not been counting cals, protien, or fat, I am just concentrating on eating no carbs.

Typical day:
Cardio 30-45 min

meal 1: 2 scoops whey w/milk, 15 gms carbs

meal 2: 3 egg omlete, 2 strips bacon, 2 sausage links

meal 3: 6-8oz of salmon steak, beef, chicken, or fish w/ decent sized salad or green vegatables

meal 4: 1 6oz can of tuna or 2-3 pieces of beef jerky

meal 5(postworkout): 2 scoops of whey w/creatine

meal 6: 2 scoops whey w/1.5 tblspns flax

______________
That is on a workout day. on a non workout day I usually only drink 2 shakes, and meal 5 is usually chicken w/small salad or chicken and shrimp salad.

I take creatine
1 gm cla per meal(I got it free, so why not)
about 2 tblspns of flax
2 xenidrines in the morn before cardio, 2 miday

I used to be around 192, I have only been doing this for 9 days and lost 4 pounds!

BTW, What is NYC? I have heard of this before.

 

[Cuts]

BTW, What is NYC? I have heard of this before.

Check it out bro...

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/Merc...re_Code=AFS&Product_Code=AN&Category_Code=WLP

Combined with a strict diet and lottsa cardio, stuff works better than even DNP IMO... and you don't feel like shit on it (like you do on DNP) either. Good luck with your fat loss bro... hopefully someone here will give me some worthy competition ... karma for you...

 

[SteelWeaver]

I am starting to dread having to refeed on Saturday, thought I would look forward to it.

Karma to ya cuts and steel.

You're both welcome

One other thing - if you're dreading your refeed because you think you won't be able to eat enough or something, you might want to know that ECA/NYC etc. interfere with the carb-up, so it's best to give them a miss on refeed days. (And gives your receptors a little rest ...)

 

[Ceebs]

One other thing - if you're dreading your refeed because you think you won't be able to eat enough or something, you might want to know that ECA/NYC etc. interfere with the carb-up, so it's best to give them a miss on refeed days. (And gives your receptors a little rest ...)

Yup. ECA/NYC will blunt the effectiveness of the refeed, and vice versa.

Personally, on refeed days, I only take one multivitamin in the morning, and r-ALA throughout the refeed. Whereas every dieting day, I'm popping some vitamin, mineral, or other pill literally every 2 hours. Never let it be said I don't swallow...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

One other thing - if you're dreading your refeed because you think you won't be able to eat enough or something, you might want to know that ECA/NYC etc. interfere with the carb-up, so it's best to give them a miss on refeed days. (And gives your receptors a little rest ...)

Thanks for the advice, I don't like doing them on leg day anyhow, hard to keep my breath.

It's not as much as bieng able to eat enough, I think I can handle that, it's just the thought of eating carbs. I think I will stick with cereal and pop tarts for the most part, oh yeah, I was also wanting a double chicken breast sandwich from Subway, on wheat.

Got any other suggestions as far as re-feeding foods? I want to keep it healthy and not go overboard.

 

[Cuts]

Damn it! I've been dieting hardcore now for 4 DAYS and still no visible/subjective fat loss!?

I have a theory: When one starts a diet, there is approximately a 4-7 day delay before the results start to manifest. What do y'all think?

 

[PoyeBoy]

Yeah for me it does take a while, sometimes you dont even know its there, then BAM! It seems like you loose it all at one time.

I woke up one morning and I can see my abs, and they keep getting better.

 

[Cobin]

When I diet, I see results the next day, or I feel them atleast, anyway I haven't been able to diet all week, which sucks but I am gonna start over on friday and give it another go, wish me luck. I'll post stats up later.

 

[Shankerr]

hey, is it too late to join in??

I wanna drop 10-15 by the 10th (when i go home for a few days from school) wanna get those abs back out hardcore! I'll even join in late.

I'm basically gonna cut out about another 400kCal/day from my current cutting diet, and cut carbs down to about 50g/day (morning and post workout)

Cardio in the morning (7am)

Diet

Morning>
1/4cup oatmeal with 1 scoop whey
3 egg whites
1 thin slice ham
water with 5g of glutamine shaken in

mid morning>
shake with 2 scoops and water, flax oil

Lunch>
2 chicken breasts
1/2 cup broccoli

Mid aft>
shake with 2 scoops and water, 1 can tuna

Dinner>
8oz extra lean steak, 1 cup broccoli

post workout>
shake with 3 scoops, 350ml milk, 5g glutamine, 1tbsp natty PS flax oil

Hows that look? I usually don't eat that littel, but I wanna drop by the time I go home! (that way I can start right into a good lean mass cycle for a couple months before bulking as soon as I get back here) I'll also be running a carb load next each sunday from now till the 10th where I'll take in about 500g carbs per.

stats are ...

Age 21
male
6'3"
209lbs
12%

cardio 7 days, lift 5 days

I also use ECA stacks for cutting

 

[Cuts]

hey, is it too late to join in??

I wanna drop 10-15 by the 10th (when i go home for a few days from school) wanna get those abs back out hardcore! I'll even join in late.

No way bro... join us ... you have exactly 2 weeks then, to lose AT LEAST 10 lbs. Can it be done? HELL YES IT CAN. Do it bro... cut those calories & do a shitload of cardio... keep posting to motivate others... good luck... karma for you...

 

[Cuts]

Yeah for me it does take a while, sometimes you dont even know its there, then BAM! It seems like you loose it all at one time.

Yeah! That's how it is with me too!

Cobin get to it!

karma for all...

 

[Shankerr]

Well, I'm ready to rock, got my diet designed, got my alarm set to do some cardio in the morning, and just got off the phone with my girl back home, so the date is set. October 10th, I shall be at no more than 200lbs, preferrably around 195, which will be very cut and vascular!

I figure I am gonna do some cardio (45 mins) in the morning, and again about another 1/2 hour post workout before I come home. Diet is all set, carbs are low, and the rest is nicely balanced!

Wish me luck

And to everyone else thats doin' this, good luck lads!

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

My F'ing scale lies! Geez, I gained 2 pounds since yesterday. LOL, need to forget that thing. The ketostrips have me looking good though. I just want to see some major wieght loss, It is close to the end of the first week, and not halfway there.

 

[Cuts]

FBD: The scale DOES lie the first 1-2 weeks bro. Just friggin stick to it... the lbs WILL come off!

Like PoyeBoy said above... you just wake up one morning and BAM!!! you see that you're losing fat FAST!

I'm happy to report, for me that morning is RIGHT NOW !!!!!

Keep it up fellas... looks like I'm in the lead ...

 

[Shankerr]

Well, I had a bad start.... last night, I realized that I did five graphs for an economics project completely backwards, so i was up until 4:30am fixing it.. So, no cardio this morning. However, I jogged home from class, went straight to the gym, had an amazing shoulder session, then did an hour of cardio, feelin good now! Weighed in at 208 this afternoon. Lookin good so far!

Now, I have to head back to class for an hour or so, and after that, I'm heading back to play some squash, should be another good solid hour od super intense cardio!

Hows everyone else doin?

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Keep it up fellas... looks like I'm in the lead ...

In the lead, enjoy your riegn for a brief period!

Cuts, when did you start? It's great your seeing results, one of my co-workers asked me today if I had lost wieght, which is a good sign, even if it was a dude. Damn, he's checking me out, I might have to beat him down.

I cheated today, I ate at Wendy's. A salad, first time I have ever had a Wendy's salad, and I needed extra ruffage to get me regular. I think this high protien has me clogged up.

 

[Cuts]

In the lead, enjoy your riegn for a brief period!

Cuts, when did you start? It's great your seeing results, one of my co-workers asked me today if I had lost wieght, which is a good sign, even if it was a dude. Damn, he's checking me out, I might have to beat him down.

I cheated today, I ate at Wendy's. A salad, first time I have ever had a Wendy's salad, and I needed extra ruffage to get me regular. I think this high protien has me clogged up.

lol I started this past Monday... diet's gone flawlessly so far... but now the weekend's here, so this'll be the real test. Yeah, a friend of mine commented to me too today about how my face looks leaner . Why do you say a Wendy's salad is cheating?

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Why do you say a Wendy's salad is cheating?

Was a joke, it actually did me good, ruffage!! The bacon on it was probably a little much, but if that is as bad as I cheat I can live with it.

My freaking scale told me I have lost 2 pounds, but I have went up .8% in BF. LOL. The ketostrips have me hitting real high.

Yeah, the weekend. My nieghbor just came over and talked me into going out, it's not that big of a thing, I don't drink, but I can't stay out long and expect to run 2morrow. I think I will skip this refeed. What do you think? It has been like 9 days, the ketostriips still have me high. Just wonder what the consequences would be of pushing my first refeed to 16 days.

 

[Cuts]

I'm a big advocate of listening to your body... if you feel you can keep carb depleting and don't need a refeed then I say go for it... your body will tell you when you REALLY need carbs. At least that's how it works for me...

Yeah bro I'm going out tonight too... gonna take it easy on the alcohol though... just a couple Jim Beams-Diet Cokes... this is gonna be my "refeed" lol! Plus I'm feeling generous... this'll give y'all a chance to catch up to me ...

Have fun tonight bros ...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Hell, I already made it back home, it is raining so much here things were kinda slow anyways.

The refeed, I feel great now. I am waking up easier in the morning, not as sleepy during the day. Not really hungry anytime. Tommorrow will be actually 9 days, and I think I can do without a refeed for 16 days, thats not a tall order. I don't want to eat carbs, I don't want any. It's strange, cause I thought that I would be craving badly by now. This is the first time I have done a complete depletion, minus vegetables.

Have fun tonight Cuts, and you know regular coke would probably be better with the whiskey. And throw in a few stout lagers for good measure, and don't forget the late night Krystal's rush.

 

[Shankerr]

ok, I'm 206 as of this afternoon, down 2lbs. All this cardio and cut cals has paid off, even only after a few days.

abs are peeking out!

 

[Shankerr]

Well, day three now I guess... I went out last night for a few hours dancing, managed to not have a single drop to drink. took some will, and had to put up with a bunch of shots from my mates, but I think I'm better off.. This morning, got up, ate a nice breakfast (1 thin slice ham and four egg whites, water) took and ECA, and headed to the gym. Had a nice chest today, set a new personal best for incline dumbell today too! Did 40mins of nice hard cardio after and jogged home.

This week i am hoping to make some more headway in the water weight department, and get off another few lbs! I'll post agian daily if I can to keep updates frequent!

Lets get everyone else who is participating posting daily too! itd be good for everyone concerned to have a bit of inspiration! Anyone who is participating, and posts some progress reports will get karma from me!

Shane

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

I wieghed today, I am down 4.4 pounds this week. Scales are strange though, and the BF calculator is only showing .9% improvement. I need to throw the scales out the window and just keep moving.

Skipped a.m. cardio this morning. Did chest, 30 min. cardio. washed my car and rotated the tires.

Thinking about getting on the treadmill and playing some Madden2003. The only time I let myself play PS2 is on the treadmill. Set it at 3.5 mph and high incline. Takes me forty minutes to get through a game.

 

[Cuts]

FBD & Shankerr: You guys are badasses... I screwed up pretty bad on the weekend, and I was feeling really guilty about it, but reading how you two are making such awesome progress is re-motivating me !

"Failing isn't falling down... failing is when you don't get back up"

Turning on the discipline again today for next Monday's weigh in... keep up the good work bros...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

"Failing isn't falling down... failing is when you don't get back up"

Keep that attitude man. You have inspired me cause last week you seemed to be in tune. Partnering up has kept me focused.

A little knowledge, Ground turkey has way more fat that lean hamburger meat. Talk about being pissed when I found that out.

Mom's mashed potatoes, fried okra, corn on the cob, butter beans, biscuits and a ham. My thoughts of the day! Good thing I am single and can't cook like that.

 

[Cuts]

It's amazing what one good workout can do for your psyche... I felt bad all day yesterday, but I woke up this morning at 4:30am, went to the gym, had a badass workout, came home, and did some intense cardio, and now I feel friggin awesome! I'm back with a vengeance gentlemen ...

Keep up the good work...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Had a good back/bi workout today with cardio at the end. I was watching Levrone workout today, damn I want arms like that, they are just freakin huge.

Unfortunately I woke up at 5 this morning and couldn't get in my morning 3.5 miles. Have to wake up at 3 for that. I like took a nap Monday afternoon, watched the game, went back to sleep and did not get up.

Diet is going good, but I think the refeed on Saturday is necessary.

Glad to see you back in the spirit Cuts. Keep It Up.

 

[barnidge]

What is your cal intake on diet days(12xs?) and Refeed days(16xs?)? Thanks

 

[Cuts]

What is your cal intake on diet days(12xs?) and Refeed days(16xs?)? Thanks

For me...

Diet days: about 8 x bw

Refeeds: about 13 x bw

Seemingly low... but I'm unfortunately cursed with endomorphic genes...


Another good 5am workout followed by 30 minutes of exhausting cardio... looking leaner in the mirror ... looking forward to weighing in next week...

 

[Shankerr]

DOwn to 198 as of today! Feelin good too

today was a non-training day, I filled it in with about an hour and a half of ccardio split between this morning, and this evening. 85g carbs today total in my diet. Closing in on my deadline, I also started tanning again yesterday so i can get a ncie base going befroe my goal date of next wednesday

Cuts - no worries brother, you can still make up for a bad weekend! We all have 'em, just bust your ass and all will be forgiven!

 

[barnidge]

Great jobs bros.

Are you taking an appetite suppresant to help you keep your cals low? How often are you refeeding on average?

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Around the same as Cuts , Some days a little lower.

My first refeed will be Saturday, which will be 16 days total.

I take Hydroxycut and cycle it every two weeks with NYC.

I weighed in last night at 232.2, 5.5# and 1.9% so far. Sorry to cut it short but it's almost 3:30 am and I have 4 miles to run before I fight traffic to dc.

Later.

 

[Cuts]

DOwn to 198 as of today! Feelin good too

Cuts - no worries brother, you can still make up for a bad weekend! We all have 'em, just bust your ass and all will be forgiven!

You're down 8 lbs!? Badass dude... badass.

Thanks bro... I'm back now though... had some crazy cardio this morning... I'm sweating so much it looks like I just got out of the shower... NYC rules!

 

[Cuts]

Great jobs bros.

Are you taking an appetite suppresant to help you keep your cals low? How often are you refeeding on average?

Thanks!

Only thing I'm using is NYC... not sure if that suppresses the appetite or not but it sure does burn fat! I'm refeeding about once/week...

 

[Cuts]

Around the same as Cuts , Some days a little lower.

My first refeed will be Saturday, which will be 16 days total.

I take Hydroxycut and cycle it every two weeks with NYC.

I weighed in last night at 232.2, 5.5# and 1.9% so far. Sorry to cut it short but it's almost 3:30 am and I have 4 miles to run before I fight traffic to dc.

Later.

3:30am... fucking badass.

 

[Shankerr]

yeah man, down 8lbs. I think its mostly water though. As for appetite supressant, just taking EC stacks (24mg E 200mg C) twice daily, once before my morning cardio, and once before nite cardio. My diet has only been about 1500 - 1700kCal/day and well under 100g carbs in there.. (between 37g which was the lowest, and 92g, highest) rinking about a gallon of water, and a gallon of crystal light per day. its kind of a bullshit diet, and I know it, but I am managing to split it into five to six meals per day, spread out between 7am and 9pm, and it seems to be working. I haven't had a refeed yet, gonna do that when i go home no doubt for four solid days ;-) I figured I could punish myself for one week, to reap the rewards for a few days after!...!!! My girl back home is all excited to see me, so I figured not only should I look my best, but also be able to go party it up with her and be lighthearted for a few.

Closing in on the deadline, how are the rest fo you lads making out?? I'm going to get some pictures done this sunday, I'll have to send some to show ya what I managed!

Hey, where the fuck can i get NYC?? I can't buy it in Canada, and no one will ship it here either..?? which is gay... Do you guys know of a store chain that I might try up here??


Well, I'm back to writing this fuckin paper. Thanks to any of you that responded to my questionnaire entitled "The Protein Poll" posted in General Chat for this paper too! Got all my info compiled, and rockin on it!

 

[Cuts]

yeah man, down 8lbs.

Hey, where the fuck can i get NYC?

Great job bro... keep it up... looks like I do have some competition after all ...

Anabolic Fitness doesn't ship to Canada ???

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

3:30am... fucking badass.

It sucks man, you get used to it. I ussually am in the office by 5:30 or on site in dc around 6. Bitch is I usually work to 4-5pm. Salary, all that hard work for a degree.

I have alot more energy now that I have been doing morning cardio. My ankles are starting to bother me some, which is a concern becuase they are weak.


I got to NYC Sunday, I can't freaking wait! That stuff rocks. I get home now and my shirt and top of my shorts are literally soaked with sweat, wringing wet. The NYC will kick even harder.

 

[Cuts]

O.k. gentlemen... I'm back in the driver's seat... had a great week... BUT now it's Friday again... damn weekends!

My mantra for the day: MIND OVER MATTER.

Keep up the good work bros...

 

[Shankerr]

Keep it up Cuts, weekends are fine, just gotta stay focused. I find weekends even easier, since I am never pressed for time between classes and what not, so I have more time to focus on eating a right proper diet! just think of it that way. If ya go out, pull the trick that I do... get one beer, and hold it all night! drink it if you want, and just hold the bottle. or get water in a highball glass, looks like gin or vodka

Anabolic Fitness doesn't hipt to canada. on their website, I think it actually said specifically that they wouldn't ship NYC to canada, which kinda sux from what you guys say!

anyway, have a good one

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

BUT now it's Friday again

Just hang tough man.

I like weekends. I don't have to wake up at 3 to do cardio. Get to go to the gym in full force, legs Sat & chest Sun. The problem with weekends is I am not as scheduled as during the week. I have to remind myself to eat.

Plus football comes on, which means on the treadmill watching football or playing Madden.

 

[Manu]

Hi all,
If it isn't too late i will join you also. I returned from long vacations and have maybe some 10 kilos to lose. I almost didn't trained and eated without restritions. Maybe the more intelligent would be to go slowly but i feel like starting with some more radical. I will post shortly again with more data.
Karma for you Cuts

 

[ROLGOR]

Hey Cuts. Hadn't seen ya in awhile. Your hideing over here in diet huh? sounds like your hard at it. I'm planning on giving swolecats diet a shot in a couple months. I have heard nothing but good about it.

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Hi all,
If it isn't too late i will join you also.

Nope, too late. Your going to have to wait till next spring now.

Man, yesterday's refeed killed me. The carbs made me lazy as hell. Loved the Quizno sub though.

Just made my 4 miles without slowing down. Time to bump the distance up a little. I think I am happier not eating carbs. This next round is going to have more cardio, and I am going to NYC from the ECA. I think this next round is going to be even better.

How was your weekend Cuts?

 

[Cuts]

Hi all,
If it isn't too late i will join you also. I returned from long vacations and have maybe some 10 kilos to lose. I almost didn't trained and eated without restritions. Maybe the more intelligent would be to go slowly but i feel like starting with some more radical. I will post shortly again with more data.
Karma for you Cuts

Never too late to get a 6-pack bro . 10 kilos huh? I'd say that's about 2 months of solid dieting... go for it.

have some karma

 

[Cuts]

Hey Cuts. Hadn't seen ya in awhile. Your hideing over here in diet huh? sounds like your hard at it. I'm planning on giving swolecats diet a shot in a couple months. I have heard nothing but good about it.

Hey bro... I've been around... yeah I'm on a valiant quest for a 6-pack... I've tried it before but quit just short of the prized sixer... but this time I'm going all the way! I'll give swolecat's diet a look... good luck with it... karma for you...

 

[Cuts]

How was your weekend Cuts?

I'm proud to report that it was damn good ... stayed in Friday... drank only a little (3-4 drinks) on Saturday... didn't go nuts with food... all in all, maybe I didn't lose fat, but I definitely didn't gain any either.

Looking much leaner... pants fitting looser... weighed in yesterday... down 16 lbs & 5%bf in about 4 weeks! Got another 15lbs to go...

At what bf% do y'all think it's time to start training abs?

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

At what bf% do y'all think it's time to start training abs?

I didn't know there was a required leanness to be able to do crunches. I have been messing up all my life, no wonder I have no six pack.

Congrats on the weekend. My freakin refeed day sucked. I hate carbs! I gained back 2 pounds looks like, but my BF% is at 30%, so down 2% in 2 weeks.

 

[Shankerr]

good lad Cuts avoiding drinks when you're out is tough, but ya managed to do it!

Weekend was alright for me, did a bit of a carb up yesterday, ate about 200g over the day, felt good, adn i got in a killer biceps and back workout after gettin some serious carbs into me ;-) TOday, back to normal.

Looking forward to the conclusion of this dieting thing though, I'm more or less at my goals, and lookin forward to going home this week to show off a bit!

 

[Manu]

Nope, too late. Your going to have to wait till next spring now.

Nice joke.

FarBeyondDriven, just curious about something, is that your pic in your avatar? seems there's some weight you have to lose.
Good luck with dieting.

 

[Manu]

Thanks Cuts.

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Nice joke. FarBeyondDriven, just curious about something, is that your pic in your avatar? seems there's some weight you have to lose. Good luck with dieting.

Yeah, I been focusing on bulking up for a couple months. Can't sculpt a peeble ya know. Nah, thats not me, don't know who it is, found it on uglypeople.com, it's my alias's. When it all comes down on this board I figure they will knock on my door looking for an obese black guy, I'll be like, oh, he moved to Hollywood to be a Chippendale a few weeks ago.

Actually the more the better!! Welcome

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Cuts, Shankerr? Where are you boys?

Down 3.5% BF. and 10 pounds in like 16 days.

Don't know if I can run in morning, think my knee is getting inflammated. Spent about an hour thinking of a meat lovers pizza tonight. Stood strong.

How ya'll doing?

 

[Cuts]

Cuts, Shankerr? Where are you boys?

Down 3.5% BF. and 10 pounds in like 16 days.

Don't know if I can run in morning, think my knee is getting inflammated. Spent about an hour thinking of a meat lovers pizza tonight. Stood strong.

How ya'll doing?

Hey bro... GOOD JOB BRO! I'm still working hard... fat loss seems to have slowed down for some reason. In your opinion what is the main reason that fat loss during an intense diet and exercise regime, although initially fast, slows down after a few weeks... b/c I've noticed this happening with me before? Is it...

A) decreasing leptin and/or a falling BMR

B) the need to cut calories further, since LBM has decreased since the beginning of the diet

C) developed tolerance to the thermogenic one is using

Or is it something else? What do you think?

Thanks bro...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Could possible be all of the above. I am not really a dieting guru, if I was I would be playing with my sixpack instead of these love handles. Might want to change up on what kind of cardio your doing, is it HIT or just like jogging?

When was your last refeed? I am starting to worry that I may mess up my metabolism. Any experts have opinions on this?

 

[Manu]

You are still with Triple Threat ? i think it is some protein powder (?), if so why don't you try to substitute it with some "real food"? i think it could work.
Also i do the same question as FarBeyondDriven: " when was your last refeed"?

 

[Cuts]

Yeah... I use about 2-3 scoops of TT/day...

I think that very well maybe my main problem... to few calories/carbs for too long a time... gonna up the carbs a little for a couple days and see what happens...

 

[SOEX]

You guys mind if I join in your thread? Seems like a good motivator.

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

You guys mind if I join in your thread? Seems like a good motivator.

Welcome aboard man.

Cuts, doesn't TT have carbs in it? Don't know, I bought 3 tubs of the stuff and haven't really used it yet. I have shyed away from alot of protien powders here lately. I can buy some steak, tuna and chicken and eat good. But the powders come into play when bulking

 

[SOEX]

Ok, I can give what stats I know, but I don't know my BF%.

I'm currently 24 Y/O, 5'11, and about 180lbs. I'd say my BF is around 20%. I've been dieting off of nothing but steak and air popped pop corn (protein drinks in there too). So far it's been working pretty well, just takes time.

I typically go to the gym 2 times a day, do 4 exorsizes with weights, and then do 15 minutes cardio with a heart rate at about 140-170. I also do some stretching and do abs every day in those gym visits.

From what I've been able to tell, my caloric intake has been about 1300 for this whole time, and it's been killing me I think. I've just changed my calories by adding some oats to my protein and also adding 10 little pretzels to each meal.

My meals look like this now -

8 am - 4 ounce steak with steak sauce

9 am - 10 little pretzel nibblers (sourdough!)

10am - protein drink with quick oats

12pm - 4 ounce steak with steak sauce

1 pm - 10 little pretzel nibblers

2 pm - protein drink with quick oats

4 pm - 4 ounce steak with steak sauce

5 pm - 10 little pretzel nibblers

6 pm - protein with quick oats

8 pm - 4 ounce steak with some air popped pop corn.

Sometiems a drink before bed, sometimes not...

According to my calculations, that's about 2100kcal now. Which should be better for me. All the carbs are good, no fat carbs. Just enough to get some glycogen in those muscles and keep my head on straight.

So total, I have -
44g fat
129 carbs (mostly from oats and pretzels)
227 protein

What do you guys think of that? Does that sound good?

With all my hopeful caloric expendatures I do, I should be burning way more than I'm taking in. I don't get cravings from food anymore, but now it's just me wishing time would go faster.

Good luck guys, after being 1.5 months into this diet, I'm hoping things will pick up a little with the addition of carbs. Going with steak only was starting to relaly hurt me, also the lack of calories were taking it's toll.

I've dropped some significant amount of body fat, but I'm still working on losing the fat around the abs and I also get fat pockets over my pecs that I have to lose. I'm going to keep doing this till christmas with Thanksgiving and Christmas as my cheat days.

I'll keep you guys posted. I track most of the things I do with www.fitday.com. It seems to help.

 

[SOEX]

BTW, here's the link to my info.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=Xahn

You can see what I eat, what I do for activities, and my journal. It helps me keep track of what I'm doing, and gives a little insight to my whole diet.

 

[Fonz]

Some of you guys aren't eating enough.

Dieting is not about fat-loss!!!

Its about MUSCLE PRESERVATION.

Whi cares if you lose 10lbs of fat if you also lose 5lbs
of muscle.

By the time you reach your goal weight, maintaining that weight
is near next to impossible because of your muscle loss.

I'll join your thread.

I'm focusing on lean muscle gain/small fat loss.
As of this AM.

Stats: 193lbs
BF: 7.5%

And FYI everybody: Throw those Tanita bodyfat scales away.
They tested me with those and 16%!!! LOL

Calipers are better.

Fonz

 

[SOEX]

Fonz,

Could I get your input on my current diet (not the one before I added the carbs)?

Thanks bud.

 

[Cuts]

Some of you guys aren't eating enough.

Dieting is not about fat-loss!!!

Its about MUSCLE PRESERVATION.

Whi cares if you lose 10lbs of fat if you also lose 5lbs
of muscle.

By the time you reach your goal weight, maintaining that weight
is near next to impossible because of your muscle loss.

I'll join your thread.

I'm focusing on lean muscle gain/small fat loss.
As of this AM.

Stats: 193lbs
BF: 7.5%

And FYI everybody: Throw those Tanita bodyfat scales away.
They tested me with those and 16%!!! LOL

Calipers are better.

Fonz

Hey Fonz! Long time no see bro . Yup... you know me man... I've been trying to get that friggin 6-pack for 2 years now lol!

Fonz, I think you're right about losing fat while preserving muscle being the main goal... and if I was in your shoes at 7.5% bf (that is friggin awesome by the way), I would indeed be focusing on the same thing. But I've been screwing around a lot this summer... drinking and binging at McDonalds afterwards, and I am BLATANTLY FAT now. I'd estimate I'm at around 23% bf right now... and I just want to lose this fat IN A HURRY. I think I'll be able to put on LEAN MUSCLE afterwards... no more "bulking" cycles for me after this... just "lean mass" cycles.

So what's your formula for maximizing fat loss? Thanks bro...

 

[Cuts]

Cuts, doesn't TT have carbs in it?

Yeah, it has about 7g of carbs for every 20g of protein... but it just tastes so damn good... I don't think I could stick with a zero carb protein powder for too long... and I'm in this for the long haul lol...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Well, I blew it today. Had my weekly progress meeting at one of my jobs, no once else I work with was able to be there due to our annual meeting. The property manager tried to grille me on a couple items and get me to make promises that would be hard to keep. Along with she tried to be tuff. I didn't fall but it was real f'ing stressing. So I went and had some pizza. It wasn't really that good. So life goes on. Didn't run this morning due to my knee starting to bother me. Double time in the morning.

 

[Manu]

Hej all.
I post some diet as a thread apart but i will post it here.
My stats and some modifications in diet.

I am 1,725 meters, i think 5,65 feet tall and 89 kilos (196 pounds).
around 24 % bodyfat.


- morning cardio
meal 1 (30 minutes after) = 168 grs. Tuna + 1,5 grs. Vitamin C (39,64 grs protein, 196 cal.)
meal 2 = 84 grs. tuna (19,82 grs prot. 98 cal.)
3 egg whites (57,5 cal. 12,625 grs. Prot. 3,5 grs. Fat)
1 egg (87,6 cal. 7,56 grs. Prot. 6,6 Fat)
3 grs. fish oil
meal 3 (Pre workout)= 1/2 scoop whey (11 grs prot. 65 cal) + 40 grs oatmeal (160 cal.) + 3 grs vitamin C + vitamin E 1000 I.U. + creatine
meal 4 (Post workout) = 75 grs dextrose (300 cal.)+ creatine + 2 scoops Whey (44 grs. Prot. 260 cal)
meal 5 = 168 grs. Tuna + 1,5 grs. Vitamin C 39,64 grs protein, 196 cal.
3 egg whites = 57,5 cal. 12,625 grs. Prot. 3,5 grs. Fat
- 1 egg = 87,6 cal. 7,56 grs. Prot. 6,6 fat
3 grs fish oil
meal 6 (bedtime) = 84 grs. Tuna , 98 cal.

Plus: 6 liters water +. Some cabbage or brocolli in meals 2 and 5...

Ratios:
Protein = 214,34 grs.
Carbs = 115 grs
Fat = +- 30 grs
Calories = 1663 cal

 

[Manu]

Hey Fonz
At 7,5 % congratulations. Can you give an ideia of your diet?
It is truth about diet beeing about muscle preservation, isn't also truth that at higher body fat a more restrictive diet can be not so bad?..

 

[heart doc]

Cuts, you the same FMG on SDN

Cuts:

YOu the same FMG on SDN network? How are the interviews coming? Hope you do well in the match.

 

[Cuts]

Re: Cuts, you the same FMG on SDN

Cuts:

YOu the same FMG on SDN network? How are the interviews coming? Hope you do well in the match.

Small world the internet... lol... yeah that's me alright ... you've got a PM...

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

What happened to all the dieters on this post?

I myself took a couple days off, yesterday and today. Ate clean, lifted, laid off the cardio though cause my knees have been bothering me, hit a few golf balls.

Starting back towards ketosis tommorrow.

I finally got a network adapter for my PS2 so I will be spending alot of time walking on the treadmill.

How you doing cuts, any good updates?

 

[Manu]

What happened to all the dieters on this post?

I didn't startet yet. I can feel all muscles in my body when i do any movement because of trainings thins week and the time i stopped. I think it is not possible to diet right now but this monday i plan to start maybe with more carbs and progressivly going down.

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

Understand, I was thinking of bulking some today. But I need to loose some of this before I do that.

 

[Cuts]

Well, it's 6:30am on Sunday morning, and I just finished a gut-busting cardio session... so I'm still around . Gonna weigh in Monday morning...