fat around hips

[sconoscuito]

okay I want to get rid of it, I run 3+ miles in the morning in around 24 minutes, then lift and do some sprints and I see great results on ckd diet and takin some supps like thermo lipo etc.. but anyways I decided to play basketball in college and my coach invited me to practice so I dont wanna make myself look like a fool, that fat down there in the middle is what 1. slows me down 2. white man cant jump = me 3. its just ugly and makes me look really outta shape and I hate it.

so can anyone help me make the process of gettn rid of it a little faster? I know its slowly gonna go away but is there any secrets to it I need to know?

1 year of college life and doing jack shiit did it to me by the way

im 6'6 223(now) came down from 230 in about 2 weeks.
anyways I used to be fast, skinny(200lbs) and thats where I wanna be now with more muscle.

my ass, lower abs, and lower back especialy around my hips is whats killing me, if anyone can point me to some exercises that would be very tight

 

[spatts]

Fat loss is about 99% diet. You lost 7 pounds of water in two weeks, due ot decreased carbs. Weight loss is easy, fat loss takes more strategy.

You can't target burn body fat.

Running 3 miles and then doing sprints is very catabolic; you end up with a fat and bone composition.

Train less. Eat better.

 

[gymtime]

Fat loss is about 99% diet. You lost 7 pounds of water in two weeks, due ot decreased carbs. Weight loss is easy, fat loss takes more strategy.

You can't target burn body fat.

Running 3 miles and then doing sprints is very catabolic; you end up with a fat and bone composition.

Train less. Eat better.

Could not have said it better.

Do some reasearch. Learn how to eat like an athlete, and how and when to train and do cardio. It'll change your life.

 

[sconoscuito]

Im doing the ckd people say it will get me ripped so I dont know what better to do, drinkin some protein etc..

oh well we'll see what happens

 

[spatts]

I'm tellin ya, your training is causing muscle loss. Assuming the above is true, your metabolism is slowing down, and you're holding on to fat. Are you sure you're in ketosis? If you really want help, post up your diet and training in full detail.

 

[sconoscuito]

well I just started training like I said about 2-3 weeks ago, after 1 year break, I'm 19 and Im in college and 1 year of beer drinking did lots of damage. so now Im trying to get back in shape and possible play basketball this season. anyways right now here is my diet.

3-4 themorixin pills a day, I space them out and take each pill with 2 liporexins

I wake up at around 7:50, i go running on empty stomach(3 miles around 24 minutes on average)
9am, eat few eggs(4 maybe)
at 11 I eat again, usually some tuna,
from 1130 to 130 im in class, then at 2 I drink some protein shake(designer whey or something) then go back to class till 3, after im done i eat few cheese sticks...
then at like 5pm I eat a steak or chicken breast with maybe salad or something, go work out for few hours and do some sprints, come home and drinkin another protein shake and im done for the most part.

no coke, bread or anything that contains carbs.

just to make sure I'll say this again. for 1 year I did jack shit except drink beer and maybe some homework.
so my belly grew. now its been little over 2 weeks and I lost 7-8lbs and my stomach is slowly becoming flat but I wanted to find out if theres a better way..

training: i do situps in the morning ussually around 100, then do them when I lift(incline situps) like around 50 maybe cause its kinda hard. I also do leg raises or whatver you call it that works ur lower abs, i try to go for 100 but usually do like 70-80 a day.
I lift everyday maybe there are some days that I miss but I try to go to the gym everytime I can.

right now I dont care how big my biceps or triceps are I just wanna lose as much fat as I can and be in the best shape I can be for basketball.

im 6-6 223 right now, last summer not this one I was 6'6 186 and pretty low on buddy fat, not sure now but I think every single pound that I gained over last year is pure fat.

in this past 3 weeks i've seen imporvements from day one to day 17-18 but I wanna see more so if you can recomend anything I will gladly listen to you.

 

[big_bad_buff]

what's up scono, where do you live in Wa?

 

[sconoscuito]

yea

 

[spatts]

When you lift, what is your split? How often are you working what muscles, and what set and rep scheme?

 

[sconoscuito]

it depends but I do my abs everday but other then that I do upper body one day next day i do legs etc...

usually its like this though. shuoders and chest, or arms and back,

then for legs I do same rutine pretty much all the time, squat, leg press and couple of other stuff

then I basically do 10x3 sometmies 4 sets.

 

[spatts]

Why do you do abs every day? Because you believe it will help you lose fat there?

 

[sconoscuito]

yeap... why? its not gonna do it?

also its not just that i wanna have strong abs cause whatever you do in basketball most of it comes from the middle part of your buddy, be it jumping moving sideways...

thats what ive been told all my life, well only 19 years of it but maybe ive been listening to wrong people? anyways the mission here is to get rid of all the fat in the middle(stomach, hips, ass? and back) and i know its not gonna come from just sitting on my ass and eating right, no matter what you people tell me im not doing that

other then that my ears are wide open for your comments

 

[Liftbig]

yeap... why? its not gonna do it?

also its not just that i wanna have strong abs cause whatever you do in basketball most of it comes from the middle part of your buddy, be it jumping moving sideways...

thats what ive been told all my life, well only 19 years of it but maybe ive been listening to wrong people? anyways the mission here is to get rid of all the fat in the middle(stomach, hips, ass? and back) and i know its not gonna come from just sitting on my ass and eating right, no matter what you people tell me im not doing that

other then that my ears are wide open for your comments

training your abs for purposes on the court is a very valid reason. kudos for that.

listening to spatts is not like listening to the wrong people. Its more like listening to the RIGHT people, she knows her stuff.

no one said you will lose fat just by sitting on your ass and eating right. theres more to it than that. just lift weights, build up some muscle. the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn/need.

im going to say something about all the thermos your taking. get your diet right first, take off weight that way first, and then add the thermos if you feel you need more. just by eating right and training harder and smarter youll be suprised by what you can do, especcialy at 19.

 

[sconoscuito]

oh no I meant to say people I have listened to in the past, thats why im glad i found this message board and Im thinking about doing exactly what you told me, dropping all those thermos and going back to natural.
i just got some flaxed oil and multivatamin, im gonna add some protein powder cause theres no way i can eat 6 healthy meals( no time) so instead of eating something shitty im just gonna drink some protein shake.

I dont mind doing my abs that much is cause I can do it and I can feel my 6 pack underneath my fat and thats what i need to get rid off..

"just lift weights, build up some muscle. the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn/need. "

i forgot about more muscle more burnt calories so i'm gonna concentrate more on that too.

tommorow im getting a gym membership 2 minutes away from where I live so that should solve all the problems, I can just walk over there in the morning or at night so less worries and less missed work outs.

anyways thanks again, learning something new everyday

 

[Liftbig]

good to hear. this board is a great place, with a plethora of information, and very helpful people. youll be on the right track.

remember if you want that fat to come of around your mid-section. its gonna have to be a total body thing. you have reduce your overall bodyfat %.

 

[spatts]

sconoscuito,

You want to get bigger, faster, and stronger...right? That's what every athlete wants. How do you get bigger and faster? You add muscle to your frame. You decrease fat and add muscle. How do you add muscle (hypertrophy)? You go to the gym, rip the muscle fiber (this is what you're doing when you train) and then you go home and eat and sleep, and hopefully do some active recovery. When you tear your muscle fibers your body, in an effort for homeostasis, intitiates a repair response to heal those muscle fibers. Every time you let those fibers heal, they heal a little larger. This is hypertrophy...muscle growth. If you never let those fibers heal, you just keep ripping, and ripping, and ripping...and you never get anywhere. Your body is under stress, you lose muscle, your metabolism drops, etc...You really only need to train a muscle about once or twice a week, depending on whether or not you're going to failure and your split. Trainer smarter, not longer.

Sprinting should be treated like weight training. It operates on the same fuel. That means, you should eat before and get a fast absorbing protein afterwards. If you are training to put on muscle and get faster, ditch the CKD and do some carb rotating so that you can keep your workouts fueled while keeping the bodyfat in check. No gas in the car = the car doesn't go. Are you an athlete or a fitness model?

Abs: Train them for size and strength. The abs are just like any other muscle. Screw crunches, they will not make you strong. Train them heavy and train them once or twice a week...let them heal. See above. Otherwise you keep ripping, and ripping, and ripping...the abs are like any other muscle. Rip, heal. Rip, heal.

and as I said before...YOU CAN'T TARGET BURN BODYFAT. It's physiologically impossible. You can do crunches all day long and you won't burn tummy fat. You can back extension all day long and you won't burn that tire. It doesn't work that way.

Right now you are giving your body a double whammy....you are training too much and only eating for about 1/10 of it. If you eat complex carbs before your weight training or sprints, and then just fibrous carbs after that, you can keep the body fat in check while optomizing your training. Do your long term cardio (your 3 mile run) either AFTER weights or on its own day. If you can, do your running in the AM, and you weights/sprints in the PM. Eat during the day to fuel your weights/sprints and then stick to fibrous carbs (veggies) and protein/fat after that. You are still cycling the carbs this way, but instead of cycling by day of the week you are cycling by training...based on need. I eat the same amount of protein and fat all the time, but my training day carbs are about 150-200g, and my non training day carbs are about 5-75.

Remember not to count fiber in with the carbs. If 2/3 cups of green beans has 7g carbs, and 3g fiber, then the total carb is 4g.

 

[Mike_Rojas]

sconoscuito,

You want to get bigger, faster, and stronger...right? That's what every athlete wants. How do you get bigger and faster? You add muscle to your frame. You decrease fat and add muscle. How do you add muscle (hypertrophy)? You go to the gym, rip the muscle fiber (this is what you're doing when you train) and then you go home and eat and sleep, and hopefully do some active recovery. When you tear your muscle fibers your body, in an effort for homeostasis, intitiates a repair response to heal those muscle fibers. Every time you let those fibers heal, they heal a little larger. This is hypertrophy...muscle growth. If you never let those fibers heal, you just keep ripping, and ripping, and ripping...and you never get anywhere. Your body is under stress, you lose muscle, your metabolism drops, etc...You really only need to train a muscle about once or twice a week, depending on whether or not you're going to failure and your split. Trainer smarter, not longer.

Sprinting should be treated like weight training. It operates on the same fuel. That means, you should eat before and get a fast absorbing protein afterwards. If you are training to put on muscle and get faster, ditch the CKD and do some carb rotating so that you can keep your workouts fueled while keeping the bodyfat in check. No gas in the car = the car doesn't go. Are you an athlete or a fitness model?

Abs: Train them for size and strength. The abs are just like any other muscle. Screw crunches, they will not make you strong. Train them heavy and train them once or twice a week...let them heal. See above. Otherwise you keep ripping, and ripping, and ripping...the abs are like any other muscle. Rip, heal. Rip, heal.

and as I said before...YOU CAN'T TARGET BURN BODYFAT. It's physiologically impossible. You can do crunches all day long and you won't burn tummy fat. You can back extension all day long and you won't burn that tire. It doesn't work that way.

Right now you are giving your body a double whammy....you are training too much and only eating for about 1/10 of it. If you eat complex carbs before your weight training or sprints, and then just fibrous carbs after that, you can keep the body fat in check while optomizing your training. Do your long term cardio (your 3 mile run) either AFTER weights or on its own day. If you can, do your running in the AM, and you weights/sprints in the PM. Eat during the day to fuel your weights/sprints and then stick to fibrous carbs (veggies) and protein/fat after that. You are still cycling the carbs this way, but instead of cycling by day of the week you are cycling by training...based on need. I eat the same amount of protein and fat all the time, but my training day carbs are about 150-200g, and my non training day carbs are about 5-75.

Remember not to count fiber in with the carbs. If 2/3 cups of green beans has 7g carbs, and 3g fiber, then the total carb is 4g.

^^This is the best possible advice you can get, sconoscuito. Don't spin your wheels like most people. Be sure not to rush your weight loss.

 

[sconoscuito]

aright I guess I'll have to go with that, sounds pretty good.. plus im kinda tired of being lightheaded most of the time from whatver Im doing wrong right now.

anyways does cardio in the am sound good on an empty stomach? or should i do that every other day or so

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Personally I think cardio 3 times a week is plenty. I think a.m. cardio is fine. Remember, most of your weight loss will be the result of diet changes.

Eat some good carbs like oatmeal on your weight training days. If you keep the carbs too low, your muscles will be depleted of glycogen and you won't have any energy.

And it's definitely true that the more muscle you have the more energy you burn during the day. Build up all the muscles of the body.. do big moves like squats, deadlifts, bench, rows, and overhead presses.

 

[sconoscuito]

hey what do you call that exercise which is kinda like deadlift but you take it up all the way to your chin, and do a little jump, well you need to in order to pull that bar up all the way up there?

I used to do that, is that deadlifts or something else?

rows? is that seated rows where you sit down and pull that thing.

 

[Liftbig]

maybe your thinking of cleans.

 

[Mike_Rojas]

hey what do you call that exercise which is kinda like deadlift but you take it up all the way to your chin, and do a little jump, well you need to in order to pull that bar up all the way up there?

I used to do that, is that deadlifts or something else?

That sounds like a power clean. That's an excellent exercise you can add to your routine. Be sure to use good form.

http://www.fitrex.com/fitness_info/exercise55.html

rows? is that seated rows where you sit down and pull that thing.

I was talking about a barbell row:

http://216.171.173.34/misc/RojasRow.wmv

You can also do them with the opposite grip (palms facing body)

 

[sconoscuito]

yea thats the one, and i got the form down cause my coaches(trainers tought be how to do in hs) I had a friend who lifted the whole thing up with his back, it was hilarius.

oh and I know the barbel row too althoguh I havent done it much...

aright thanks a lot guys, starting tommorow one last change in diet and lifting I hope.