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[calyptus]

halo has an androgenic rating of 1900. It is the most androgenic steriod available. Do not give out any more idiot advice

Psst, the anabolic/androgenic ratings on the website profiles are drawn from a study concerning rat prostate, completely irrelevant concerning humans and certainly human muscle. Big Cat even said it is the biggest steroid blunder ever.

So instead of being a parroting jackass do your own research.

That's because of the sheer ludicracy of trusting numbers from vida based on levator ani against ventral prostate weight in rats ... I think we've all chuckled a great deal at those numbers in the past.

The levator ani is an androgen dependent organ, with much lower threshold for androgen activity, and in no way reflects the anabolic potency of a compound in skeletal muscle. The ventral prostate in turn is no model for skin, scalp, etc. The rat AR, as well as expression levels of co-regulators differ from those in humans as well. In short, those numbers come as close to the truth as the pope to a gay convention.

Small detail, methyltrienolone is the biggest androgen available. It's cousin, it's name escapes me, is believed to even be stronger, with yet another methylation added to it. But there is no research data for it yet.

 

[calyptus]

Excluding cheque drops you really cant get any more androgenic than halo bro, period. Androgenic = secondary sexual characteristics ... halo gives aggression, strength, crazy sex drive, and can increase body/facial hair like fucking crazy. If the #s and the results of halo dont deem it androgenic, I dont know what would.

Let's take a look at the effects of glucocorticoid deprivation, which comes from an anti-glucocorticoid, which halo is.

increased neural drive : check
increased hematocrit and hemoglobin levels: check
increased agression: check
increased appetite: check

fluoxymesterone still is an androgen, but by far not such a huge one as stated so many times before.

 

[Tatyana]

Psst, the anabolic/androgenic ratings on the website profiles are drawn from a study concerning rat prostate, completely irrelevant concerning humans and certainly human muscle. Big Cat even said it is the biggest steroid blunder ever.

So instead of being a parroting jackass do your own research.

That's because of the sheer ludicracy of trusting numbers from vida based on levator ani against ventral prostate weight in rats ... I think we've all chuckled a great deal at those numbers in the past.

The levator ani is an androgen dependent organ, with much lower threshold for androgen activity, and in no way reflects the anabolic potency of a compound in skeletal muscle. The ventral prostate in turn is no model for skin, scalp, etc. The rat AR, as well as expression levels of co-regulators differ from those in humans as well. In short, those numbers come as close to the truth as the pope to a gay convention.

Small detail, methyltrienolone is the biggest androgen available. It's cousin, it's name escapes me, is believed to even be stronger, with yet another methylation added to it. But there is no research data for it yet.

Interesting info.

Do you have the links to any of these papers, like you have said, also think it is important to do your own research and go to the primary source.

This is one of the problems on BBing boards, there are smart peeps, people who are in the medical/scientific area, but they have to go under names like 'Big Cat' (just using his name, I don't have the foggiest who that is).

I am aware of the two compounds that you mentioned, one of my mates did a cycle with one of them, he was doing scary amounts of weight on leg press (600 kg+), I will have to ask him what he thought of the results.

Also, lads, let's leave all these little digs out of the discussions please (I am really tempted to edit them out of your posts) it isn't going to do anything but provoke a reaction and we don't need a forum full of geared up or clomided up lads having it out.

Ta

 

[calyptus]

If u got access to this study, it's an eye-opener.

Saartok T, Dahlberg E, Gustafsson JA.Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.

 

[RADAR]

i'm about to be 20 and i'm in college. if i said i was 28 it was unintentional.

Then you need a few yrs to peak, your hormones are already flooding your body -USE THEM



There's nothing like hard work!
RADAR

 

[halfcenturian]

If u got access to this study, it's an eye-opener.

Saartok T, Dahlberg E, Gustafsson JA.Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.

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Just saw your remark........

No time to retaliate now, I am taking a break, and need to catch a plane.

FYI, calling me a parroting jackass, or any other mentor or mod on EF is hazardous to your cyber health, Mr. 43 posts.

I'll deal with your punk ass - when I return.

Perhaps a few of the, mentors / mods, will have a word with you in my absense.... Junior.



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[M1chael]

calyptus is totally right here. Dont be mislead by those absurd anabolic/androgenic ratios, measurement values base on 2 procedures, the weight of the prostate and the levator ani muscle in mice. What does that tell you for a human? nothing. I can guarantee you will not gain anywhere the muscles with halo compared to test, you rather build 1900% more muscle with test. Halos produced aggressiveness and strength comes from cortisol inhibition and effects on the CNS.

There are better alternatives today, halo is very harsh, thats no fiction, imo the most dramatic side effect beside the dangers for liver and especially kidneys is that behaviour towards beloved family and friends you will regret big time. halo, never again.
Just to lift 20 pounds more or being "harder" for a few days to grin like an idiot on a show.

 

[Roc86]

Anabolic = "The phase of metabolism in which simple substances are synthesized into the complex materials of living tissue."

Androgenic = A steroid hormone that controls the development and maintenance of masculine characteristics

-Halo is androgenic in every sense of the word. Sex drive, strength, hair loss, aggression all are extremely prevalent with halo -almost IMMEDITALEY.

Not to mention it isnt very "anabolic" in that you arent going to put on noticeable mass running halo alone.

Dont listen to this meathead fellas or youll end up bald with a prostate the size of a grapefruit. Halo is very androgenic - end of thread.