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stosstruppe
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He's cheating on you!
Uh...
Uh...
They will str8'n out once they are graduated, and done school.
uamaverick
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This made me lol.
ChristianDom96
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my dads fiances kid is the worst hes been a problem since me and my dad met him he is 12 btw and has always been argumentative,disrespectful, talks back, no common sense. only time hes good is if hes playing his video games. my dad told me man he is lucky he aint my kid id beat his ass
billfred
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His Father's son.
And mothers if thats her in the avi.
And not living in a neighborhood where bullets go through your living room window
True, but I bet SB would keep him in line, just sayin'
He sounds like yet another product of our delinquent pop culture. Parents have a lot of shitty influences to fight these days. Most just don't even bother though it seems.
dutchman063
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Dont blame the influences..its called bad parenting
spoken like peeps without teenagers...
my oldest was an absolute fucking smart mouthed bitch living in an affluent area in an excellent school system with a mother (me) that has never been afraid to whoop her ass and she was NOT given every damn thing shes ever asked for (Id be out a few grand just in shoes otherwise)
little bit of age, couple of small life experiences...shes turning out to be an ok human being
my next daughter has had a tighter more sheltered environment, was a very sweet kid...hitting difficult teen yrs...same shit from her
it really is mostly hormones and some emotional growing pains
they know enough to get in trouble but not enough to stay out of it..meh
everyone thats had something to say, you were model teenagers?
my oldest was an absolute fucking smart mouthed bitch living in an affluent area in an excellent school system with a mother (me) that has never been afraid to whoop her ass and she was NOT given every damn thing shes ever asked for (Id be out a few grand just in shoes otherwise)
little bit of age, couple of small life experiences...shes turning out to be an ok human being
my next daughter has had a tighter more sheltered environment, was a very sweet kid...hitting difficult teen yrs...same shit from her
it really is mostly hormones and some emotional growing pains
they know enough to get in trouble but not enough to stay out of it..meh
everyone thats had something to say, you were model teenagers?
redsamurai
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except that you need to understand that our economic system is predicated on divorcing children from their true selves. The amount of money spent by marketers to achieve this goal is breath taking. If you can dictate to people who they are you control them. During the teen years is when this is at it's most vicious because after that a human being "usually" settles into a regular pattern for the rest of his/her life. It's not many people who continue to grow significantly past this period. Superficial characteristics change but the underlying foundation is set during the teen years in the vast majority of people. So during this time the brain is bombarded every other minute with contradictory stimulus. There's a reason why most of the counry needs prozac. So to blame it all on bad parenting is not accurate. It's my opinion that if you don't raise your kid in a tower in the woods somwhere, ur screwed no matter what you do.
Fuck no. But when I was thirteen (which is close to v's sons age, I think) or any age for that matter, my old man would've beat the shit out if me if disrespected my mom or wore my pants hanging off my ass. Are you telling us that there was zero good advice in here before your own?
dutchman063
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I know...blame it on society.. its an easy copout
redsamurai
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no, not society....the free market. When you have people with PHD's in psychology and neurology actively seeking to get in your kids head every where he looks, what can parents do except lock their kids up? Part of it is society mate no doubt....but we're a society that was groomed from our own childhoods to do the same things to our children that were done to us. Dude the food companies hire biologists to come up with ingredient ratios' that alter our childrens brain chemistry to where they crave certain foods, and those foods are always high processed sugar...which causes attention deficit disorders. I do blame parents who feed their children this unadultered shit then get mad when the kid barely acknowledges their existence when they tell him something because his brain has been put into lala land.
I was a pretty good kid, yes.
But, I am male.
And my parents weren't divorced.
My older bro was the major screwup, so I had a good example of how not to be, along with 4 good examples (mom, dad, oldest bro, and sis) of how TO be.
It gets better, 13 to 18 sucks with the peak being 15 (at least with boys). Try to keep them occupied, ideally, get them into sports. Try to get an adult male they can "hang" with or be mentored by if dad is hands off. Expect them to hate you (mom), it's like hardwired. Most teen males have a phase where they have major, major problems with older women in authority (there is a reason tribal cultures sent the boys of this age off to the other side of the jungle with the men, seriously, they're not fit for polite society for a while).
My son is 27, calls me nearly every day, we talk politics and religion ... but he was a total fucking asshole for several years -- which, BTW, he totally admits to. Just remember, it's not you, it's them and consider the source (raging hormones, mood swings, confusion about relationships and moving out of childhood, coming to grips with future independence).
My son is 27, calls me nearly every day, we talk politics and religion ... but he was a total fucking asshole for several years -- which, BTW, he totally admits to. Just remember, it's not you, it's them and consider the source (raging hormones, mood swings, confusion about relationships and moving out of childhood, coming to grips with future independence).
Typo
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It's society, and not bad parenting, but parents that are also affected by the same society.
In my community we don't have any problems with youth/teenagers that I always hear about. It's all about values that are taught to them that makes them who they are.
You can't blame hormones, just like roid rage is a myth. It's all about the character of their role models.
Prime example of how it cannot be simply blamed on "bad parenting"
Sure there are bad parents out there and yes, parenting and the environment you grow up in have a major impact, but there are SO many other variables.
I dont know what made me do stupid things as a teenager, i was immature and dumb. Some of that carried over into adulthood lol took me a while to grow up. I was never a fuck up or trouble maker, but boy was i stupid
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EarthRider
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this
i may have done some stupid shit, but i never fucked with my parents and always gave them respect. If I talked back to my mom she would give me a sore jaw and then dad would follow when he got home. So I just knew better
Will you follow this same discipline technique with your own kids?
You know a dad can't beat a daughter like he can a son.
And yes, I became qualified to give parenting advice when my wife became pregnant.
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EarthRider
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well no I wont smack them. But there life will be a living hell if they talk back to there mom. Life will be awesome if they show respect
blueta2
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I agree.....My parent never hit me, but my Mom had this look that I knew if I pushed, I was cruising for a bruising.
I messed up many times, but I came from a home where talking was encouraged and we didn't have to hide anything.
When I came home high, I told my Mom, When I got preggies, I told my Mom. I was not punished, but guided.
My parents are 80 and we all conduct ourselves the same way.
Kids today are meek! Parents today are as meek!
I won't go into how some parents have no right to be parents, but hey, it's everyone's right to breed
blueta2
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are you kidding me!!!!!
Roids cause a chemical change in the body, no myth there.....good god!
And no, there are SHITTY parents out there raising shitty kids.
Society or not. I grew up as a teen in wealth (parent were poor before that) and they made me work for everything I had/have. They could have handed me everything I asked for because "they could"< they didn't! They taught me the value of a buck and made me work as early as 14 yrs old.
Typo
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No I'm not kidding. You can't blame teenage hormones for bad behavior. Any person even slightly educated in youth behavior will tell you that.
Yes there are SHITTY parents raising shitty kids, and them parents are SHITTY due to the society they have been exposed to and are indulging in.
blueta2
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You don't need to have kids to see what is!
You have a smart mouth no? So why do you think your daughter would not follow your example?
If I was a mouthy bitch to my Mom, I would have lasted 30 seconds on the planet. It's not "who they are" most of the time, it's what they learn.
Kids are sponges and take from their parents
blueta2
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I'm not blaming hormones for bad behavior. I am saying Roid Rage is real! ugh!
Shitty parents yes, were probably raised by shitty parents. No doubt!
I never became a parent or wanted kids because I was SMART enough to know I had no patience for them and was too selfish. Others, well they feel this need to leave their seeds on the planet even knowing they SUCK at life, but still have kids.
Typo
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This sentence makes no sense at all...
blueta2
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everyday hormonal changes in people are normal. Roid Rage is not a normal hormonal change.
Not sure what doesn't make sense?
Typo
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Roid rage is not what you think. It is similar to the teenage problem.
Teenagers won't react badly to their hormone changes if they have been provided a secure and mature up-bringing.
In the same way a man won't get roid rage if he doesnt have violence or aggressive out bursts in his nature.
canadianhitman
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Hormones.
If I hit you with the same dose of hormones a male gets hit with at that age, you'd be psychotic. A little patience and understanding, and a guiding hand will get him through the turmoil...it's going to be alright as long as you stay on top of things.
If I hit you with the same dose of hormones a male gets hit with at that age, you'd be psychotic. A little patience and understanding, and a guiding hand will get him through the turmoil...it's going to be alright as long as you stay on top of things.
canadianhitman
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I don't fully agree.
Rage? No, of course not...someone with a good up-bringing will catch themselves before it becomes all-out crazy rage.
But they will be shorter-tempered, they will show a more aggressive side, and they will be a little more self-absorbed. This is natural to some degree when a major flux of hormones hits.
canadianhitman
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EarthRider
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My parents never like beat me hit me. but if i talked back she would smack my mouth. They would just make my life miserable when i was an ass. But when i was good life was good.
So that explains why you are a fucktard
Hormones I was a bitch from about 13 to 17 .... On occasion I still am no real reason now though lol
you're somewhat on but a little off too...my kids have always been taught to respect persons in a position of authority...
if I was a smart mouthed ass to a parent or heaven for fend someone outside of my home (teacher, cop whatever) Id get my fuckin face cleaned off
my kids would never get their face cleaned off but Im not shy about spanking when theyre younger and grounding for an eternity from everything they value when theyre older
I put up with small smart assed comments directed at me from them but lord help any of them if theyre directed outside of the house
also...I grew up in an upper middle class enviroment with the best of most things in life and parents that always showed a lot of interest in me
that said..I was very possibly satan in my teens and early twenties
to typo; roid rage the emotion is very much real...its acting out on it that isn't
a normal well adjusted adult will recognize that theyre overreacting and respond accordingly
oh...and as an addendum
what goes through my head (what you see on elite) and what I say out loud are usually two totally different things unless I really know you...then they arent that different
what goes through my head (what you see on elite) and what I say out loud are usually two totally different things unless I really know you...then they arent that different
redsamurai
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depends on doseage dude. There is a point where you can drive even the most docile person to violent and aggressive behavior if you A) have a high enough dose and B) keep it going long enough eventually you'll change anyone's brain chemistry. This is why I don't fuck with synthetic hormones anymore.
All this post is awesome but especially the last part hello people we have this thing called self control you either execute or you don't if you don't rather than blame something take responsibility for your shitty behavior you acted on it.
stosstruppe
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Well, you've got to remember that there is no such thing as "one size fits all" when it comes to human behavior and how we react to hormonal shifts. Take women, some get really bad PMS, some breeze through it every month and don't understand what the others are bitching about (same thing with menopause).
I will never forget one time my son and I were having an argument, he was about 14 or 15 at the time, and in the middle of shouting at me he bursts into hysterical tears. He literally sobbed "what the FUCK is wrong with me?!"
Shit, by then I could hit him with everything I had and he'd barely notice. He's a tough SOB, always has been.That's when you beat him until he stops crying. He'll learn eventually
I was literally the perfect child
valedictorian, no drugs, excelled in sports, respected my parents, protected my sister, visited my grandparents frequently by myself, never drank till My mid 20's, did my chores, never partied, never went out on the weekends with friends.
Just sayin
valedictorian, no drugs, excelled in sports, respected my parents, protected my sister, visited my grandparents frequently by myself, never drank till My mid 20's, did my chores, never partied, never went out on the weekends with friends.
Just sayin
Yea, about that age most moms can't do much with them.
ChristianDom96
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sounds like me now im 16. i love to visit my grandparents
WoodyO
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Your C- average doesn't qualify as valedictorian unfortunately.
ChristianDom96
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actually i have B(85%) average
Sounds like youve been making up for it ever since lol
Took the words right out of my mouth
Unfortunately there are so many parenting styles, some are all up in their kids business, some dont pay enough attention, there's no successful formula but there are pretty common mistakes.
I think when it comes to parenting it all comes down to teaching action - consequence, a huge problem in parenting I've seen in patients and even people I observe is that they never follow through, they tell the kid "one more time that you -insert undesirable action- and I wont -insert reinforcement-" so kids never learn their parent's true limits and just walk over them, my parents never gave a second chance, No meant No period, if we ever questioned that No we'd get it worse
However I dont have kids and I dont know how hard it may or may not be to discipline my kid while they fake remorse and puppy eyes
I was still a good kid as well, never touched a beer until 21 even though legal age was 18, I did smoke and have sex since 16 but always used protection, other than that I've been a good egg too
I think when it comes to parenting it all comes down to teaching action - consequence, a huge problem in parenting I've seen in patients and even people I observe is that they never follow through, they tell the kid "one more time that you -insert undesirable action- and I wont -insert reinforcement-" so kids never learn their parent's true limits and just walk over them, my parents never gave a second chance, No meant No period, if we ever questioned that No we'd get it worse
However I dont have kids and I dont know how hard it may or may not be to discipline my kid while they fake remorse and puppy eyes
Souns like my family, brother and sister, none ever did anything significant as teens no drinking, no sex, no run always, no sleep overs, no parties, good grades, stayed home, didnt hang out much, then there was Nancy
I was still a good kid as well, never touched a beer until 21 even though legal age was 18, I did smoke and have sex since 16 but always used protection, other than that I've been a good egg too
Even as a 14 y/o little fucker with attitude, he'll be a better man than you could ever hope to be.
This is my exact problem. No positive male influence. His dad is so immature it borders on retardation. We got together when I was 16 and it seems like he never grew up. I left for many reasons, one of those being that my kids deserved better.
Overall my boys are good, excellent in school, dedicated to sports, respectful to most adults. But my oldest and I are butting heads cause I moved out of the shitty neighborhood I was in. he doesn't want to change schools and lose all his friend's. So he is throwing the attitude.
Just to update all you guys, I did move out of the ghetto. No more bullets thru the window, my kids can actually go outside.
And I'm not afraid to discipline him. He did try that "I'm bigger than you now, mom" crap. I did show him he wasn't messin with you're average bear by tossing his ass in his room. I took his cell phone and video game console while sat there with his mouth hung open.
Someone said he's his father's son, this is so true. His dad let's him get away with whatever he wants. I dont. So when I get on him for something he wants to go to dads. And his stupid father uses that to chip away at me and the boys relationship. Christ, I work close to 50 hours a week, go to school, provide a home for the boys, pay for everything they need. Thier dad lives with his mother, is jobless and constantly in trouble, but he is super awesome cause he let's them do what they want. It's so frustrating.
And I'm not afraid to discipline him. He did try that "I'm bigger than you now, mom" crap. I did show him he wasn't messin with you're average bear by tossing his ass in his room. I took his cell phone and video game console while sat there with his mouth hung open.
Someone said he's his father's son, this is so true. His dad let's him get away with whatever he wants. I dont. So when I get on him for something he wants to go to dads. And his stupid father uses that to chip away at me and the boys relationship. Christ, I work close to 50 hours a week, go to school, provide a home for the boys, pay for everything they need. Thier dad lives with his mother, is jobless and constantly in trouble, but he is super awesome cause he let's them do what they want. It's so frustrating.
It makes it really hard when they undermine your authority and he does it just to be an ass.
My son's father uses the excuse : "well I only see him once a month, what am I supposed to do, ground him for the short time he's here?"
Uh YES!
So that's his excuse to act like a friend instead of a father? My ex tell me my teenager is old enough to know right from wrong so he needs no more gidence. What BS.
blueta2
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Trying to make sense of an addict is like going to the hardware store for a loaf of bread. Don't even try!
Does your ex's actions really effect your son is a bad way? Like, so you see signs B is depressed or acting out because of your ex?
His dad isn't an addict, he's just a fucking moron
Yes it affects my son. He acts out every single time while visiting his dad. I think he pushes and pushes because he has no idea whete the boundaries and limits are ( there are none)
Oh you're thinking of lumberg. Thankfully, no kids with him
*ebony*
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my brother tried to be like that in his teens, then my mom straighten him out and showed him who was boss. pretty sure they call child protective services for that now. lol
My ex called the cops and my son went whining to them that I pushed him. They told him if he was acting like a little jackass then I could.
It just sucks that my ex picks apart my relationship with my boys. Today I told them they had to come home and my ex planned a trip to the amusement park. He knew I wanted them back and had 3 days to take them. But he planns this stuff on the day I get them back and then tells the kids that I said they can't go. But it's more like they can go in his scheduled time.
isn't at least the oldest one smart enough to figure out something like that (him planning a last second trip right before he and they knew they had to go back to you)? If so, then he should be able to see what's going on and one would think that would make him think his dad is being an asshole.
The problem is, my son is mad at me. I moved to a better area, therefore, he has to change schools. I've tried to explain over and over that the school is better, but he doesn't care. He just want to be with his friend's.
I also think he doesn't like all the responsiblity that he has at my place. My ex lives with his parents, they do everything for the kids. I have to provide a home, put food on the table. I can't serve the kid hand and foot. Their father doesn't work, he can spend all day with them. I can't.
tryin2tone
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My son is 12 now and still tells me he loves me, even after he gets punished. I just tell him that in a year he won't, and for about 5 years after that he won't. But I know if I just keep doing what I need to, when he's an adult he won't resent me like I do my parents. Love this thread, so much good advice.
tryin2tone
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Thats the problem with teens nowadays. They know that they can call cps or the cops if mom or dad put their hands on them. I got my ass whooped when I was younger, got my mouth smacked for lying and is like to think I turned out a better adult for it. You're not allowed to punish your kids anymore.
True!
This is my current situation dealing with the bullcrap from teenagers.
I have a cousin very close to me. He really is a sweet, kind person. We became close together 3 years ago, have done tons of fun stuff together, UFC events, Harlem Globetrotters, MLB, NHL and NBA games, movies, skiing, camping trips, I attend all of his sporting events and even coached him last fall, he periodically invites me over for dinner on sundays, I spoil him on christmas and his birthday, etc. He tells me he loves me and gives me hugs and sometimes tells me not to leave when it is time to go. Now he's 14 1/2 and he deleted me off of Facebook, cleared my text log and contact information from his phone, and basically told me to go fuck myself (he doesn't swear, but that's how it came across).
Why did he do that? Because I made a comment on a photo on his facebook page. He saw Zach Galifinakis in Vegas while he was there with his friend and their family. He posts the pic with the comment "It's Alan!", and I say "Sweet, but that's Zach Galifinakis! Who's Alan?" I didn't know until later that it's the character from The Hangover. Never saw it. So, he fucking deletes me off of Facebook, and accuses me of invading his space. trying to buy his love and friendship (What the fuck is that? He's my family for hell sakes and he attached to me first), and basically tries to delete me from his life. What the hell?
Turns out he thought I was trying to get him in trouble for having seen the Hangover because he knew he'd get his ass kicked by his mom for seeing it. The next comment after he deleted mine was from his mom "Who's Alan" so he says (LMAO) "It's a guy from the Hangover movie.... I saw it in a preview once." His mom responds "Your mom is a lot smarter thn you think. Have fun with Jake and be safe. Love you!!" "K, love you too." So his mom doesn't even reem into him, and it gets played off cool.
So, I text him saying that when he realizes what a brat he is being for deleting me and accusing of me of trying to buy his friendship and love, and remembers the real reason why we are supposed to be best buds to come talk to me and that I love him no matter what even if he feels like he hates me right now and that if he is struggling with something, I'm right here for him and will do anything to help him. He didn't even respond, so right now it's the silent treatment and I am not going to beg him to talk to me. Screw that, when he figures his crap out, I'll be here. In the mean time, I will be talking with his mom because this is bullshit and I'm worried about him. She has been very supportive of my relationship with him since day 1 so she'll listen to me and hopefully help her son pull his head out of his ass.
Teenagers suck ass bro. I coach high school baseball. They are fun, but they are also very tempermental. Especially the freshman and sophomores. The Seniors act like sdicks to the younger players, but they have atleast grown up a little bit and don't have the retarded bullcrap drama-esque attitude about everything being such a big deal.
Lumberg
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Damn, how old are you?
billfred
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Mitch would own that thread.
You're worried about him why? Bc he deleted you off FB? Fuckin a, he's a teenager. My son has deleted all family off FB (not me) bc he doesnt want adults interfering in his communication with his teenage friends. Cant say i blame him!
Anyway, you cant get too worried if teenagers like you or not. Their feelings change with the wind.
I was going to say something similar. Rule #1....don't comment on the teen's fb page. It's the only reason I'm still on my son's. I can monitor it from time to time but I never comment. It's just not "cool" and he forgets I'm even there.
totally! I'm also not allowed to tag him in any photos LOL!
ChristianDom96
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i could care less if my family comments or tags me on fbook. i dont see what the big deal is about it. some relatives i dont even know add me on fbook
