Extreme weight loss mid cycle?......ulter, mac?

[alcatraz1662]

I am in week 17 of a 20 weeker:

1-20 Test C 500mg/EW
15-20 Winny 50mg/ED
1-20 AIFM

Here's the deal.....I started the cycle off at 224lbs; 13-14%BF, and up until week 15 or so I was 234-235lbs; 11-12%BF. Making great progress, I took a week off from lifting for a jiu-jitsu tournament and upon returning, I started on week 15 with the winny.

Now here's the thing, upon starting the winny I dropped the AIFM and started adex at .5mg/ED along with nolva at 40mg/ED and B-6 to help rid of some light gyno symptoms, which is now gone.

As of today I tipped the scale with clothes on at 222lbs.......!! That's a 12 pound loss in 3 weeks!!

What the hell could be causing this extreme weight loss? I'm not losing any strength, I'm actually getting stronger...which is def. due to the winny. But being 5 weeks out from football camp, the weight loss poses a big problem.

I'm thinking the combination of nolva and me going a little overkill on the adex could have caused this.....I'm dropping the adex and going back to AIFM, and bringing the nolva down to 20mg/ED....and eventually doing away with it until PCT.

Help me out, guys. What could it be? K ahead of time.

P.S. No, it's not my diet or water intake......that's been the same since I started.....

 

[immortalis]

upon starting the winny I dropped the AIFM and started adex at .5mg/ED along with nolva at 40mg/ED and B-6 to help rid of some light gyno symptoms, which is now gone.

As of today I tipped the scale with clothes on at 222lbs.......!! That's a 12 pound loss in 3 weeks!!

maybe slow loss of some water retention? Hell, i dunno... thats a lot of weight in 3 weeks and to not lose any strength surely it cant be muscle loss.

Bump for more looks.

 

[DannoMight]

How many cals a day are you eating. And if you've been eating cleaner you will be leaner.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

winstrol will dry you out. taking nolva with winstrol may increase this effect (some drying is through the PgR activity which nolva upregulates)

how much AIFM were you using? sites? exfoliating?

 

[alcatraz1662]

How many cals a day are you eating. And if you've been eating cleaner you will be leaner.

I forgot to post that....this shit is going to kill you actually......during weeks 1-10, I was only taking in about 2700-3000 cals and was putting on weight! I've gradually increased my cals to 4000-4500 from weeks 11-17 (being home from college allows me to eat better).

It's just weird, bro...

 

[alcatraz1662]

winstrol will dry you out. taking nolva with winstrol may increase this effect (some drying is through the PgR activity which nolva upregulates)

how much AIFM were you using? sites? exfoliating?

Well, the weight loss didn't start until I stopped taking AIFM, and started adex and nolva at .5mg/ED & 40mg/ED; respectively.

As of today, I dropped the adex and went back to AIFM.....nolva is 20mg/ED and will be dropped in a week.

Before I replaced the AIFM with the adex, I was doing 3-4 pumps a day. When I could; I would do 1 pump in the morning, 1 pump in the afternoon, 2 pumps at night.....if not, just 3 pumps in a single sitting. I rotated sights between wrists, feet, and inside of hips. I was exfoliating too. The AIFM was working great, it's just that I switched to adex and nolva for some slight gyno.

 

[mikey007]

I dont understand why you are so worried about the weight?? How do you look? Its obvious you have lost alot of water and before you ask, YES 12 pounds! If you want to do things right, drop the scale and measure your body parts and take your BF % and then monitor your growth that way. This should be done at the start of the cycle of course.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

at your body weight just adjusting your sodium intake could cause a drop like that, though its most likely due to winstrol effects on water balance

 

[alcatraz1662]

I dont understand why you are so worried about the weight?? How do you look? Its obvious you have lost alot of water and before you ask, YES 12 pounds! If you want to do things right, drop the scale and measure your body parts and take your BF % and then monitor your growth that way. This should be done at the start of the cycle of course.

The weight is very important to me in that I play collegiate football. Coming in as an expected starter 14 pounds light (5 pounds lighter than then end of last season) is a big problem.

Thanks Macro, if my weight continues to drop and goes sub 220, I'm going to drop the winny......and in that case would end the cycle with the winny, PCT, and start Pure CEE.....

 

[TracDT1]

The weight is very important to me in that I play collegiate football. Coming in as an expected starter 14 pounds light (5 pounds lighter than then end of last season) is a big problem.

This sounds very similar to my story except for the fact that my weight loss also was aided by cardio...I was about 295 and lean but prolly 19% then I started cardio as part of the off-season program and I lost about 7 pounds and then when I started my PCT (Hcg,nolva,clomid,adex) I lost another 5...I also play football(d1a) and having weight can def be a plus at diff spots (I play DT so u can see why I need the weight)...moral is that I am prolly more like 16% now and still weigh 283, my strength is only down a little bit and I feel great...so I know how it can be from losing the weight, but if u still have the strength and yur feeling good, u can put the weight back on once yur done with the adex and winny especially...just as long as yur strong and lean for the season...yull get the weight back...and I am def speaking from experience cuz I just went through this same exact thing...good luck bro yull be fine

 

[macrophage69alpha]

once you come off the winstrol your water balance should return to normal

 

[alcatraz1662]

This sounds very similar to my story except for the fact that my weight loss also was aided by cardio...I was about 295 and lean but prolly 19% then I started cardio as part of the off-season program and I lost about 7 pounds and then when I started my PCT (Hcg,nolva,clomid,adex) I lost another 5...I also play football(d1a) and having weight can def be a plus at diff spots (I play DT so u can see why I need the weight)...moral is that I am prolly more like 16% now and still weigh 283, my strength is only down a little bit and I feel great...so I know how it can be from losing the weight, but if u still have the strength and yur feeling good, u can put the weight back on once yur done with the adex and winny especially...just as long as yur strong and lean for the season...yull get the weight back...and I am def speaking from experience cuz I just went through this same exact thing...good luck bro yull be fine

Thanks man, appreciate the advice. I'm increasing my cals by about 600-1000 by adding a weight gainer shake in my daily diet. Hopefully that'll hold me out until the winny is over. K to you, brother.