Extra Strength Anavar?

[Mavy]

What do you guys who run var think of adding a slight dose of dbol to it? My friend has done this the last few cycles and loves it. He calles it Extra Strength Var. I am thinking of doing this with EQ for next cycle. Basically it would look something like this. Instead of running 60mg of var, it would be 45mg/day of Var, and 15mg/day of Dbol. Basically Var with a little extra "Kick".

With the lower dose of dbol, it dosent override the var, but provides a little extra pump and mass synergystically with the var, where it dosent provide this. These 2 together are probably the 2 best roids for promoting the buildup of protien. And it wouldnt be any extra stress on the liver seeing as how it would be 60mg of var anyway, without going the extra-strength route. Basically its just dropping the var down a slight notch, and putting some powerful dbol in. Also, its such a low dose on the dbol that many of the negative sides would not surface. What do you guys think of this, as I am seriously considering it. Would you think that 60mg of var would be better than the "extra strength" route, i.e., 45mg/day Var + 15mg/day of dbol.? Its definately not the "in style" way to run var thats for sure.

Mavy

 

[monkey arms]

Sounds interesting, how long are you planning on running this and are you going to run anything else. Would you take the Dbol once a day or split it up?

 

[Mavy]

I am planning on running it with EQ. Would split it up 3 times/day, so that its only 5 mg of dbol spread out 3 times per day. I am pretty sure that I am going to try this, so i will let you know. Just hoping that the dbol dosent somehow "ruin" the effects of the var. I can only see them working together, and juging on how strong my friend is, I would know that it is great for strength.

 

[DieselDan]

Sounds interesting. I'm planning on running var for 10 weeks with EQ and Sust. I might add some dbol for the first few weeks. Let keep the opinions coming.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

conventional wisdom isnt always right!! I like ur idea, very interesting, and if your friend has had great results perhaps its something worth looking inot for others as well!

 

[out of control]

Only one way to find out let us know if it works

 

[jubei]

Dbol plus letro is working much better than winny for me, the winny was fucking owning my joints. I don't see the problem with what you propose, although I don't know how much stronger dbol with an anti-e will be than var. My guess is not much, but at least it would be cheaper.

 

[Whacked]

Mavy----I like the idea a lot actually! Make sense. Keep us posted!

WHY NO TEST with that cycle? ust curious?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Looks good to me.

 

[Mavy]

Bumpin up for JATCA69.

Older post for some feedback. I am doing the D-Var right now, and liking it. Running it with NPP, and test. Yum Yum!

Mavy

 

[_Yossarian_]

Good strength gains Mavy? Im going on a rock climbing trip at the end of September and was going to jump on some var @ 60mg/ed starting next Monday, but if the dbol works well I might lower the dose and try it your way. Im focusing on strength, although if the mass comes with it, I wont complain.

 

[shortstack]

whats the gains like? how much npp and test?

 

[_Yossarian_]

ne4vermind Mavy, I saw your post on Jatca69's thread. Sounds awesome, Im going to hit it up on Monday 40mg var w/ 20mg dbol

 

[Mavy]

Ya bro, if I had to choose, between 60mg of var/day, or 40mg var/day + 20mg dbol/day, I would definately take the dbol+var combo.

"Im focusing on strength, although if the mass comes with it, I wont complain."

- lmfao! Im sure most dont complain at that.

Shortstack: Gains are 8lbs so far - 3wks and 5 days in so far. Only running whole cycle for 6wks. I have had a few issues with finding time to eat/tain on this cycle, so it will be interesting to see how it works out. NPP 200e3d, Sust 250mg, on day 1, 7 and 21. Var and dbol throughout. Dbol first week only at 25mg/day, now the combo of the two. I hoenstly feel that dbol gives me more strength than var when running solo. But the two of them together seem to working quite nicely, and I would say takes the cake over just either one of them alone.

Mavy

 

[liquidmuscle]

i have both dbol/var and eq...looks like i may give it a shot

 

[rjl296]

id do it

 

[Dial_tone]

I get a ton of bloat from Dbol but it's a good idea.

 

[geoboy]

Ya bro, if I had to choose, between 60mg of var/day, or 40mg var/day + 20mg dbol/day, I would definately take the dbol+var combo.

"Im focusing on strength, although if the mass comes with it, I wont complain."

- lmfao! Im sure most dont complain at that.

Shortstack: Gains are 8lbs so far - 3wks and 5 days in so far. Only running whole cycle for 6wks. I have had a few issues with finding time to eat/tain on this cycle, so it will be interesting to see how it works out. NPP 200e3d, Sust 250mg, on day 1, 7 and 21. Var and dbol throughout.

Mavy

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you're at around 500 mg ew of NPP? that seems high compared to what I've seen reccommended elsewhere (200 low end - 400 high end)

 

[_Yossarian_]

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you're at around 500 mg ew of NPP? that seems high compared to what I've seen reccommended elsewhere (200 low end - 400 high end)

Geo, Ive pushed npp up to 600mg /week during my last cycle and it was way too much for me, the sides were out of control to the point where I dropped it all together. Id recommend a dose and duration like Mavy's, when I hit it up again, thats the way Ill go(Ill never run nandrolone again without some dostinex on hand though)

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Mavy again.

 

[Judo Tom]

i think that would be a real nice cycle

the only thing i have to ask/say is that all 17aa's are not created equal and some are way more toxic to the liver than others so 1 + 1 might = 3 or 4 not sure how to word it but i hope you know what i mean

although you are choosing var and a lil dbol so i doubt your liver values will climb much during the cycle

 

[Generic MALE]

Geo, Ive pushed npp up to 600mg /week during my last cycle and it was way too much for me, the sides were out of control to the point where I dropped it all together. Id recommend a dose and duration like Mavy's, when I hit it up again, thats the way Ill go(Ill never run nandrolone again without some dostinex on hand though)
QUOTE]

I have never done deca or nandrolone.

What sort of sides?

Do you feel recovery from NPP is fairly quick? or does it shut you down hard?

 

[jatca69]

Mavy-looks like you have started the dbol-var revolution!!! Thanks for pulling this up for me. I was running 60 mg of var a day...gonna switch it up and see how it feels. Thanks again. K 4 U on my thread.

 

[JAYMAN014]

Mavy, do the 8pds seam to be solid lean muscle mass or do you see alot of water weight added as well?

 

[geoboy]

Geo, Ive pushed npp up to 600mg /week during my last cycle and it was way too much for me, the sides were out of control to the point where I dropped it all together. Id recommend a dose and duration like Mavy's, when I hit it up again, thats the way Ill go(Ill never run nandrolone again without some dostinex on hand though).

what were your sides at this dose?

 

[_Yossarian_]

At 600mg I was bloated as hell, started to loose hair(which Ive never had happen, even with high doses of test and proviron), and my nips started to hurt really bad. I know it was from the deca because I was using 25mg aromasin and 20mg nolvadex e/d.

The gains were great in the beginning, and my joints felt awesome. Recovery was alot faster with npp than with deca, but I think Im still shut down a little(came off 4 weeks ago)I wouldnt run it again over 500mg for a duration of no longer than 6 weeks.

 

[Mavy]

Damn bro ... I was actually thinking on upping my dosage slighly, like to maybe 200mg eod, as I am experiencing zero sides so far. Maybe not such a good idea though after reading this. I am probably at my personal threshold for the sides/gains ratio and shouldnt push it I guess if things are going well.

jayman, the gains feel pretty solid, but I am sure there is water here. About half the gains came in the first 10 days where I ran the dbol only with the NPP and Sust. Damn those 3 traditional drugs were well together.

geoboy, I dont think my dosage are that high. That is why I was even contemplting bumbing them up for the last few weeks here. In fact, I wouldnt run NPP any lower than 200mg e3d.

 

[DaveTSI]

Some of you may remember me talking about doing 2wk on, 4wk off cycles for 6 months with var/dbol/prop. Well, i started the prop and got terrible test flu and the injection hurt so much i couldnt operate. So my plan has changed completely. 40mg var/30mg dbol for 6weeks, and i cant believe the gains already. 7lbs in 5 days, and this may really surprise you ug lab haters, but this is on Orbit gear! i feel fricken great in the gym already. I can tell already that in six weeks im going to be moving some retarded amounts of weight. Thanks for this idea of xtra-strength var MAVY!

 

[Mavy]

lol .. no worries bro .. but you might want to be carefull with your liver. Didnt some of that Orbit anavar test out to be double the concentration? You could very well be taking 80mg of var, and 30mg of dbol making your oral dosage 110mg per day. Just something to think about bro. But nice gains so far for sure, hope that you keep a lot of them.

Cheers,
Mavy

 

[DaveTSI]

the batch # on my var is diff from the overdosed batch, but that doesnt mean anything i guess. Im taking milk thistle and tylers and tons of water so ill be fine. I know var is an oral but its alot easier on the liver than most others. think about the dudes who take 150-200mg ed of drol, an some even stack more on top of that! ill let you guys know how it turns out.

 

[geoboy]

At 600mg I was bloated as hell, started to loose hair(which Ive never had happen, even with high doses of test and proviron), and my nips started to hurt really bad. I know it was from the deca because I was using 25mg aromasin and 20mg nolvadex e/d.

The gains were great in the beginning, and my joints felt awesome. Recovery was alot faster with npp than with deca, but I think Im still shut down a little(came off 4 weeks ago)I wouldnt run it again over 500mg for a duration of no longer than 6 weeks.

wow- hair sides from NPP???? Did you ever do high doses of deca to compare hair sides? could it be something specific to NPP formulation vs nandrolone in general causing it?