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extended sust 2 deca

instant.muscle

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i know people r gonna tell me bad idea, but i'm just asking u 2 wish me luck
my current progress is week 8.
week 1-4 20 mg dbol ED
week 1-10 250 mg sust once week
week 11-16 20 mg dbol ED
week 11-20 300 mg deca once a week.

i was gonna stop at week 8 but i said fuck it i wanna try this deca i got out and c how it works.
 
in week 8 i'm up bout 19ish pounds, yall can also tell me what u think about this cycle, thanx for ur info and thanx for wishin me luck guys.
 
Yeah, i did the same with the sust. Great stuff. You don't need mega doses of anything to get some great lbm. I'm not a fan of deca though. Dbol is great, those pumps are just tremendous.
The only thing I can criticize about this cycle is the deca and the dbol at the end of the cycle. I mean, I just don't see the point.
 
Good luck man, but if i were you i would start the Deca/Dbol for your next cycle. I would run PCT after your Sus/Dbol and then start your deca/dbol. Whatever you plan on doing i hope it goes over smoothly. I like your low dosage approach, thats how i plan on doing it.
 
While I admire you use of low dosages and the very solid progress you've made while side stepping the 'more is better' trap, I will warn you not to fall into the other trap of not wanting to come off. Having a fair amount of experience with drug usage, I am very leary of any desire that goes against my original plan or sound logic. Reasons like 'fuck it' aren't too solid and generally reflect some subconscious desire talking rather than your in-control logical self.

Also, deca is a long ester, it's going to take a while to build into your system. I'd start taking it week 9 to smooth your transition so it builds in as the test drops out without leaving a gap (deca is slow to release into the blood and build concentration - you'll have a gap otherwise). One of the reasons people don't run very long cycles is that the gains tend to really slow down further out. Most people net a lot more from two 10 week cycles than one 20 weeker. Most find it necessary to swap drugs (which you are doing) and increase the dosage. Also, Deca is fairly suppressive. Not the best way to end a long cycle and you will have no test at all in your system part way into the second half leaving deca which is a poor androgen replacement in several facets.

Some things to think about but whatever you decide, good luck.
 
yeah thanx, the sust will stay in until about the end of week 12. i'm relatively young so i will react a lot better 2 the deca than sust, so i should REALLY c some kick ass results from this. thanx guys!
 
instant.muscle said:
i'm relatively young so i will react a lot better 2 the deca than sust, !

Why do you say this? Age doesn't play any part in how one reacts to a test blend vs. deca.
 
Madcow2 said:
Why do you say this? Age doesn't play any part in how one reacts to a test blend vs. deca.

trust me. it matters, say u were 20 or 40, seeing how ur test levels r alrdy higher at 20, the 40 year old would have FAR better results. but say a person took a small dose of test, seeing how his test is already off the chart naturally (like mine is) would not respond that much from 250 mg of sust maybe from 500. but would respond much better 2 deca. get it? thanx guys
 
instant.muscle said:
trust me. it matters, say u were 20 or 40, seeing how ur test levels r alrdy higher at 20, the 40 year old would have FAR better results. but say a person took a small dose of test, seeing how his test is already off the chart naturally (like mine is) would not respond that much from 250 mg of sust maybe from 500. but would respond much better 2 deca. get it? thanx guys
There is a tremendous amount wrong with that reasoning on why a younger person would respond better to an equal dose of deca vs. test.
 
instant.muscle said:
when i drop the sust will i need n e pct like chlomid 2 get my test levels back up or the deca and dbol will b enuf?

Man I didn't even see this. As long as you have roids in your system, your natural test is shut down. Deca and Dbol will continue the suppression and deca is a powerful suppressor - maybe the worst. Don't even start PCT until you are 3 weeks past your last deca injection. And after 20 weeks or so with zero natural test and finishing with deca you should run a heavy PCT cycle.

Between this gem and your assertation that young people benefit more from deca over test due simply to age and natural test levels - I really advise you to break this into 2 cycles. You don't have a solid enough foundation of knowedge to make this decision and in the long run, you'll get more from 2 cycles.

I know it's not what you want to hear and I sound like a dick and you will do whatever you want anyway, but if I didn't say this I'd be doing you a massive disservice simply to keep you happy by telling you what you want to hear. I truly wish you the best but I'm not going to tell you that you are equipped with enough knowledge to make a responsible decision about this. My advice is to come off as planned, do PCT, and hit another cycle after a period of natural training once your test is recovered.
 
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