Experts Needed!!!! Newbie Cycle Critique

[manny78]

What happened to the days where a first cycle was 500mg of test for 8 weeks with clomids or novaldex for PCT ?

 

[comebackkid.]

I'm calling bullshit. I work with an endo. You are telling me your natural test levels are 3,000 ng/dl!?!?!?!? No way!
250mgs of test a week will put you at 3,000 ng/dl. The normal reference range is 300 to 1,200.

No need to call "bullshit." Maybe my conversions are wrong when applied to AAS.

Either way, is anyone able to answer the questions I asked? I was told this was the forum of experts.

Bueller?

 

[slat1]

No need to call "bullshit." Maybe my conversions are wrong when applied to AAS.

Either way, is anyone able to answer the questions I asked? I was told this was the forum of experts.

Bueller?

Everyone here uses different pct.
I followed this when I used:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

 

[comebackkid.]

Everyone here uses different pct.
I followed this when I used:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

Thank you.

 

[cranny]

BTW. I went from 200 to 220 on ten weeks of 250mgs of test ent. Your diet drives your results.
I am 256 right now. I have never used more then 500mgs of test.

Completely agree w/ slat1. IMO your doses are way too high for a first nor is a combo nec. Your diet will play just as an important role as the gear you're on. You would do well w/ a test only @ 250-300/wk. cycle. No need for more than one compound on your first run. It's just overkill. I just don't understand why so many newbs. jump on the bandwagon w/ other newbs. spewing diarrhea of the the mouth about all these crazy stacks and dosages for a first run. Not flamming bro. Yes, the gear will help. I just want you to see that it's your diet that will help you just as much, not big cycles.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Everyone here uses different pct.
I followed this when I used:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

I agree with this PCT, strictly based on my personal experiences... I've tried different PCT from different angles and this seems to be the most effective for me so far:

Wait appropriate amount of time after last inject (3 days, up to 2 weeks)

HCG at 500iu ED for 2 weeks
Nolvadex at 20mg ED for 3-4 weeks
Clomid at 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks
Aromasin or AIFM throughout entire PCT
Vitamin E (for better HCG uptake)

 

[digit0x]

BTW. I went from 200 to 220 on ten weeks of 250mgs of test ent. Your diet drives your results.
I am 256 right now. I have never used more then 500mgs of test.

props slat. thats the most efficient use of gear. bang for your buck without the sides or possible permanent disruption of HPTA.