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Exemestane (Aromasin) The king of anti-estrogens

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Ahhhhh-romasin®! The king of anti-estrogens.

This post is kind of long, but take the time to read it, it's probably the most important thing you'll ever read if you're a BB'er (haha well maybe not, but there's some gold in here)

Exemestane, sold under the name Aromasin® by Pfizer, is an orally available suicidal aromatase inhibitor. <This sentence describes exactly why exemestane is the king of anti-e's for bodybuilding purposes.

Because exemestane is steroidal this gives it a favorable estrogen suppression profile and confers a few really awesome benefits over other anti-estrogens both on paper and in real experience. Steroidal anti-estrogens have the benefit of being lipid-friendly and they all lower SHBG which increases the ratio of free to bound testosterone, which as many experienced BB'ers know can have a relatively profound positive impact on gains.

I think it is important to understand how drugs work in order to properly dose them, exemestane is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor, this means that it binds with aromatase enzymes and as it does so permanently disables the enzyme and destroys it. Hence the "suicidal" this chemical is like a kamikaze pilot out to destroy your aromatase enzymes which is what makes it so damn special.

Exemestane's half life in the male body is actually very short (~9 hours) and it is quickly eliminated, however, since as soon as it enters your bloodstream it quickly destroys 80-90% of the aromatase enzymes present in your body, it is effective in maintaining significant reductions in estrogen for up to 72 hours after a single 25mg dose. Estrogen levels only begin to rise again after your body has begun to make new aromatase enzymes to replace the ones destroyed by exemestane.

There is a great study on the pharmacokinetics of exemestane in men which found the following:
-24 hours after one 25mg dose estrogen levels are reduced by 70-80%
-72 hours later estrogen levels are still 40% below baseline even though the drug itself is almost completely eliminated
-120 hours after initial dose estrogen levels return to baseline (without rebounding)

this means that you can find the timing and dosage that works for you, i've seen some guys recommend between 25mg ed and 12.5mg e4d, and you can see why both are effective while providing different levels of estrogen suppression, and it is this flexibility that makes exemestane such a versatile anti-e.

BUT WAIT, there's more. Aromasin is also a badass PCT drug! In males exemestane was found to increase total testosterone by ~60% after 10 days @ 25mg/day, however the same study found that while it increased total testosterone by 60% free testosterone was increased by over 100 percent! that's right, it DOUBLES bio-available testosterone (natty of course).

I can tell you this much, when I take aromasin for PCT the results are dramatic, honestly my libido is never absent at any point during PCT and I absolutely feel great within a matter of days, and this is taking 12.5mg ed, the only side effect i notice is stiff joints and other stiff areas ;)

the good:

-powerful AI capable of stopping gyno completely on its own (for aromatizing compounds)
-has powerful bloat-reduction effects
-lowers SHBG, increasing free test & makes all other AAS more bio-available (read: more gains)
-can actually boost libido on and off cycle
-increases IGF-1
-NO adverse changes in lipid profiles for men (granted if you are using it on cycle this may be different)
-is NOT liver toxic
-no estrogen rebound

the bad:
-typical aromatase inhibitor issues here include stiff joints and possibly lethargy
-more difficult to come by than a-dex or letro

Appropriate uses for Exemestane:


#1) on cycle estrogen control - that's right, any and all estrogen related problems can and should be corrected with this compound, from gyno to acne to bloat exemestane is a panacea, run it at 12.5mg e4d for gyno protection and bloat control, or run it at 25mg ed for pre-contest or for gyno sensitive individuals or moon face. the beauty of aromasin is it's okay to use preventatively and not just as spot treatment for gyno as it doesn't hurt gains nearly to the degree that other anti-e's do, i'd still recommend using anti-e's only if you need them, but if you must use one throughout your cycle, you couldn't pick a better compound to use.

#2) PCT. Aromasin is the premier PCT drug in my experience... honestly PCT is kind of fun with aromasin (maybe that's a stretch) but it's a breeze compared to clomid/nolva and significantly better than a-dex (more powerful and fewer sides) it works excellently with HCG and keeps the extra aromatization from the HCG injects at bay (you can even run higher dosages of HCG above 500iu/inject) and another bonus is since it's safe and comfortable to run for longer periods of time, you can stretch your PCT out to 6 or 8 weeks for suppressive cycles to make sure you get everything back in full working order

#3) gyno reversal - in conjunction with a SERM (raloxifene or tamoxifen) and/or a DHT derived compound aromasin can be effective in reversing/reducing existing gyno

#4) off cycle testosterone boost - sometimes if i dont feel like running a cycle but still want a little extra kick i'll take 25mg EOD for 4-6 weeks, gains aren't improved all that greatly but significantly, but i do it more for the libido/mental effects anyways.

#5) hypogonadism - so you're getting older, you've been cycling since you were 21 and your natty test levels just never get back in the good range, but you don't wanna go HRT??? aromasin will get you back in the game without having to take the plunge for HRT.

inappropriate uses for exemestane:

#1) giving your gf hot flashes

well that's my write up for the best anti-e out there, i'm sure i left some stuff out, if anyone has any questions feel free to PM me or ask on this thread

reference:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/co...NDEX=30&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT
 
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Ahhhhh-romasin®!
Aromasin is also a badass PCT drug! In males exemestane was found to increase total testosterone by ~60% after 10 days @ 25mg/day, however the same study found that while it increased total testosterone by 60% free testosterone was increased by over 100 percent! that's right, it DOUBLES bio-available testosterone (natty of course).
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I've been saying this for years but people have it set in their minds that if it isn;t a SERM it isn't for PCT. That is a notion put in their head by a slew of morons including Bill Roberts, Lyle McDonald, Pat Arnold and the fools that declared themselves experts on this board before they got shit canned out of here.

With a-dex and the new supps Clomid and Nolva are as outdated as rotary phones and muskets.
 
Good thread. The importance of having knowledge of these compounds is oftentimes overlooked. Check those numbers! This drug was DESIGNED for us for chrissakes
 
I've been saying this for years but people have it set in their minds that if it isn;t a SERM it isn't for PCT. That is a notion put in their head by a slew of morons including Bill Roberts, Lyle McDonald, Pat Arnold and the fools that declared themselves experts on this board before they got shit canned out of here.

With a-dex and the new supps Clomid and Nolva are as outdated as rotary phones and muskets.

Nelson in your opinion what kind of dose of adex is best for pct? i used 0.5mg eod and i was ok but my next cycle im running 500mg of test, would you suggest a bump in adex? also i got hcg this time.
 
Nelson in your opinion what kind of dose of adex is best for pct? i used 0.5mg eod and i was ok but my next cycle im running 500mg of test, would you suggest a bump in adex? also i got hcg this time.


That's plenty. Add POST CYCLE and Sustain and you can cut it down to 0.5mgs twice a week.
 
That's plenty. Add POST CYCLE and Sustain and you can cut it down to 0.5mgs twice a week.

Thanks nelson, yeah ill add in the post cycle and sustain this time, if i can import them into oz! man there crackin down on every thing i think tribulis is banned on the import list now!

If i can get them how long take the supps for, 4 weeks? and adex 6 weeks
 
Thanks nelson, yeah ill add in the post cycle and sustain this time, if i can import them into oz! man there crackin down on every thing i think tribulis is banned on the import list now!

If i can get them how long take the supps for, 4 weeks? and adex 6 weeks

Depends. The POST CYCLE you can take indefinitely. It's always good to keep e in check, especially once you're "up there" in age. lol The a-dex should be taken along with the cycle and maybe a month afterward. I like tapering down with the dex.
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Arimidex and Aromasin two different substances? Arimidex being a competitive AI and Aromasin being a suicidal AI, meaning, there is no rebound of higher Aromatase levels post-Aromasin use as opposed to Arimidex?
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Arimidex and Aromasin two different substances? Arimidex being a competitive AI and Aromasin being a suicidal AI, meaning, there is no rebound of higher Aromatase levels post-Aromasin use as opposed to Arimidex?

Yes , but the effects are very similar. SERMS act on a different principal and consequently have a negitive sides on a lot of guys as well as the potential for a rebound effect. Femera is also similar to Aromasin and Dex but seems to be more of a libido killer though it's uncertain why that is.
 
Bumping a good read.

Got me some Aromasin. Gonna try a bit tonight to see if it can bring my E levels down just a touch. Is 6.25mg too small of a dose for weekly HRT estrogen maintenance?
 
^ ya, well forget about splitting one of these little buggers into quarters. Fucking impossible. I have brand name Aromasin from Pharmacia (Italy.) They look like miniature round tic-tacs. I was able to cut it in half, but that's about it. The 'candy coating' makes them fall apart.
 
I'm going to be running a d-bol cycle (6 weeks @ 50mg) and intended on having a-dex on hand throughout for sides. Can I run this (at 12.5mg every 4 days) instead? I'm quite worried about sides not from past experience at all but trying to have as much on hand as possible.

If so would I then be able to ALSO run it as PCT? I've used it for PCT in the past with success but that's the only time I've ever used it.

Thanks
 
I'm going to be running a d-bol cycle (6 weeks @ 50mg) and intended on having a-dex on hand throughout for sides. Can I run this (at 12.5mg every 4 days) instead? I'm quite worried about sides not from past experience at all but trying to have as much on hand as possible.

If so would I then be able to ALSO run it as PCT? I've used it for PCT in the past with success but that's the only time I've ever used it.

Thanks

Do you mean 0.25mg (QUARTER OF A TAB) every four days? man it depends on how prone you are to sideS, but 50mg of dbols a day is bound to hit most people, imo you will need atleast .25mg a DAY.
i would say run right threw pct would also be a good idea
 
Guys need help!

Did a few rounds of sustenon and decca back in 2001 and 2002 . First cycle was ok. Second cycle crashed badly. Never recovered from it. My test results are at about 500 from 310 after using hcg.. My testes are always soft, have ED problems, hair keeps falling although not bald yet. Now, I was very athletic and strong b4. I am 34 and feel 70. No Muscle mas infact if I train I just get injured easy, bad libido, fatigue, even my girlfriend is stronger than me now.. Used to have libido like a Horse in spring, just by the wind blowing past my trousers! I want to kick my body back as I feel depression kicking in for sure. I know I have higher estrogen. and lower bone density too

FINALLY!
MY QUESTION

1) If I take the aromasin should it put my system back in order as doctors here dont know squat in UK.
2) As a deactivator how long and what dose, should I take it without causing permanet suppression of estrogen. I hear 2 weeks is enough?. Don't wanna loose bone mass, (estrogen needed for healthy bones unless u wanna shrink a few inches)
3) will my good estrogen return to normal after I stop aromasin i.e replenish itself. AND how long doe this take? (as just wanna return things back to normal)
4) basically will aromasin cause a permnant suppression of E or will my new aromatase enzyme be produed later, and if so how long?

Wouldn't mind a new short cycle after to catch up 7 lost years of being weak and fatigued. However really dont know what roids to take to get my health back carefully.

I have been to every specialist here.

I am reaching out guys.
 
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cheers:)


it so strong that since using it on and off for 2 years belie it has permanently altered ability to mediate Estrogen for the better

have noticed it takes alot more to get bloat even while NOT using it
 
I'm currently running Arimidex @ .5mg/EOD while on my Test cycle. I may give Aromasin a go next time around when I run Test/Tren/Beastrol.
 
Aromasin blows Adex out of the water ESPECIALLY on how it feels

Adex makes some feel incredibly moody ( suspect brain estrogen connection)

Aromasin feels natural as if you just gave your self fuel injection lol
it feels good for you in moderate doses
 
Just wondering on a test 500mgs a week will i need to use aromasin? I have no sides or anything 4 weeks now. i just have it as a just incase symptoms show.
Good read though!
 
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