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Example diet while on DNP
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Millie said:
Why? whats the differance between 16 or 20 with DNP? I know there are serious repurcusions with steroids and many other things in the body building world when your under fully matured state but DNP? Im not planning on useing the dnp right now anyways im gonna bulk up for the time being then use it next year im just curious since there seems to be a very limited showcase of diet plans while useing DNP
Millie
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the difference is that at 16 your body is still developing. also from your previous posts it is obvious that you have not started training yet. you are looking for the easy way out. but DNP is no joke. it is only for experienced bb's. just because you have read a lot of information on training and dieting, does not make you experienced.
even ECA's are not recommended for people under the age of 18. why don't you follow the excellent advice you were given in your other thread? start working out and get rid of all the junk in your diet. this will do wonder for you at this point. and forget about DNP!
even ECA's are not recommended for people under the age of 18. why don't you follow the excellent advice you were given in your other thread? start working out and get rid of all the junk in your diet. this will do wonder for you at this point. and forget about DNP!
LaviathanX
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Well said, Millie.
There is a very very fine line between an active dose of DNP, and a lethal dose. At 16, you're a fat burning machine, and especially will be when you bulk up. You won't get ripped in a week, sorry. Bulk up this year and then go on a keto diet for a month or two. That's the quickest way to lose fat without losing muscle, and without killing yourself.
There is a very very fine line between an active dose of DNP, and a lethal dose. At 16, you're a fat burning machine, and especially will be when you bulk up. You won't get ripped in a week, sorry. Bulk up this year and then go on a keto diet for a month or two. That's the quickest way to lose fat without losing muscle, and without killing yourself.
Creatureofnight
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"There is a very very fine line between an active dose of DNP, and a lethal dose."
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This is not a flame. But im curious as to if you know this from first hand use of DNP or is this what you read somewhere?
Now im not saying its ok for him to be embark on a DNP cycle. I actually think its a terrible idea and not becuase your 16 (I2ancid), its a combo of your not even regularly training and have never dieting in the past, so how do you even have idea as to what methods are effective for you?
That being said, DNP is not a joke ( I have done many succesful cycles). Its a serious compound that is very much effective and relatively safe ( Imo) IF USED WISELY. I will also go on record as saying, if an effective dose for someone is 400-600mgs a day, taking 800mgs will not make you drop dead ( Basically what laviathanx wrote). Just taking as much much as 200mg a day can increase metabolism by as much as 25-30 % and no one would die on this dose, so how is the lethal dose remotley close to what dose is needed to be effective. Just because your not sweating or have terrible sides, doesnt mean the powder isnt working. It takes about 2-3 days to even start getting sides and some dont expierance them at all.
Either way, i dont think I2ancid should be using, but thats not up to me.
I will answer his question though :
A good diet especially while on your first run w/ DNP would be something in the park of 50-60% carbs/30-35% pro/ 15-20%fats(mainly just EFAs)
You should be taking in extra anti oxidents and i reccomend a liver protecter like milk thistle. Fruit is also a plus while on, to hep restore glycogen in the liver (DNP depletes liver glycogen )
DNP is very partial to muscle, so even if lifts go down Due to fatigue, its unlikely you have lost any LBM. Unless diet is terrible.
I have noticed, HIGH GI carbs made me hotter and seemed to increase the effectiveness of the DNP.
Like i said, i dont think you should be using DNP. But i rather give you solid info so you dont hurt yourself if you choose to use down the road.
I have a good read on DNP that covers alot of questions if your interested just drop me an e-mail.
[email protected]
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This is not a flame. But im curious as to if you know this from first hand use of DNP or is this what you read somewhere?
Now im not saying its ok for him to be embark on a DNP cycle. I actually think its a terrible idea and not becuase your 16 (I2ancid), its a combo of your not even regularly training and have never dieting in the past, so how do you even have idea as to what methods are effective for you?
That being said, DNP is not a joke ( I have done many succesful cycles). Its a serious compound that is very much effective and relatively safe ( Imo) IF USED WISELY. I will also go on record as saying, if an effective dose for someone is 400-600mgs a day, taking 800mgs will not make you drop dead ( Basically what laviathanx wrote). Just taking as much much as 200mg a day can increase metabolism by as much as 25-30 % and no one would die on this dose, so how is the lethal dose remotley close to what dose is needed to be effective. Just because your not sweating or have terrible sides, doesnt mean the powder isnt working. It takes about 2-3 days to even start getting sides and some dont expierance them at all.
Either way, i dont think I2ancid should be using, but thats not up to me.
I will answer his question though :
A good diet especially while on your first run w/ DNP would be something in the park of 50-60% carbs/30-35% pro/ 15-20%fats(mainly just EFAs)
You should be taking in extra anti oxidents and i reccomend a liver protecter like milk thistle. Fruit is also a plus while on, to hep restore glycogen in the liver (DNP depletes liver glycogen )
DNP is very partial to muscle, so even if lifts go down Due to fatigue, its unlikely you have lost any LBM. Unless diet is terrible.
I have noticed, HIGH GI carbs made me hotter and seemed to increase the effectiveness of the DNP.
Like i said, i dont think you should be using DNP. But i rather give you solid info so you dont hurt yourself if you choose to use down the road.
I have a good read on DNP that covers alot of questions if your interested just drop me an e-mail.
[email protected]
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
stay away from the D buddy.. Get a few years of self discipline with dieting and training on your own first. You can't rely on DNP you're whole life, it's eventually going to come down to you and you alone.
Creatureofnight said:
Thanks for your input, alot of people misunderstand me, I probably have more self discipline then 99.9% of people my age once I set my mind to something I dont stray at all. I appreciate all the input on the people telling me not to do it but I know what im doing. it is true I have not experienced it but I do know what im doing anyways. iv read MANY articles on dnp iv known in detail about it and its dangers for over a year and now that I have the chance to try it im going to go for it... not right this instant but in the future about a year from now. I have money, alot-- I can afford to buy a daily supply of redmeat and chicken meant to last a week everyday. I can bulk up easily, all I need is a year, I have 50lb free weights and a bench and a year. thats all I need
MrMakaveli
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Bulk then hit Mod-low Carbs+ALA + A.M. windpsrints with E/C/A, no need for DNP especially at 16.
macrophage69alpha
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if you are considering DNP at 16... you may have some pathological adiposity issues..
if you could give some more info as well as current weight, bodyfat, etc.. it is a lot easier to get an understanding of the situation and be able to give solid reccomendations..
any specific issues that you are looking to resolve (ie puffynips) etc..
if you could give some more info as well as current weight, bodyfat, etc.. it is a lot easier to get an understanding of the situation and be able to give solid reccomendations..
any specific issues that you are looking to resolve (ie puffynips) etc..
LaviathanX
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Creatureofnight,
I have read quite a few times, on this board, that the effective dose and lethal dose are somewhat close. Moreso when testing in rats. I'm not makin it up, just takin it from other respected people's posts.
I have read quite a few times, on this board, that the effective dose and lethal dose are somewhat close. Moreso when testing in rats. I'm not makin it up, just takin it from other respected people's posts.
Creatureofnight
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Laviathanx- Once again bro, im not flaming but thats the point i was making. You yourself, shouldnt make a statement that the effective dose is close to lethal dose if you have no firsthand expierance or real world application.
Thats like saying being a teacher is the greatest job in the world, but you have never stepped into a classroom.
again, this is not a flame just how i feel.
Thats like saying being a teacher is the greatest job in the world, but you have never stepped into a classroom.
again, this is not a flame just how i feel.
Creatureofnight said:
What I read this as is, "You can't comment on the lethal dose of DNP, unless you've taken it."
Either you're dead, or you have first-hand clinical experience just from taking DNP. That doesn't follow.
Anyway, from what I understand, the lethal dose is twice the effective dose. That's incredibly low when you're dealing with masses of less than a gram. But you might try searching or asking on the anabolics board, I'm sure someone can quote you some specific research studies.
bishonen said:
Some people have an intolerance for it. I've been told that women are generally more intolerant than men. I went up to 800mg/day of powder and I weigh 180 lbs. It was very uncomfortable but I'd imagine that I'd have to take well over a gram at once before it'd be a problem. As it was I took 200 mg every 4 hours. There's no doubt that a moron could kill themselves with the stuff but morons are prone to that, anyway.
LaviathanX
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My thoughts exactly, bishonen. If I took a lethal dose, then I can't exactly speak from experience. Say you take a dose of ECA, and forgot you took it, so you take another. No big deal, you'll just be really jittery. But if you take a dose of DNP and forgot you took it and took another dose, you will definitely have some serious problems and no doubt end up in the hospital. I have also read that the lethal dose is around twice the recommended dose. Since every drug effects everyone differently, somebody's normal dose might be nearing a lethal dose for you. Anyway, this thread is about what diet you should go on, so whatever 
Later yall.
Later yall.Creatureofnight
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What I read this as is, "You can't comment on the lethal dose of DNP, unless you've taken it."
Either you're dead, or you have first-hand clinical experience just from taking DNP. That doesn't follow.
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My thoughts exactly, bishonen. If I took a lethal dose, then I can't exactly speak from experience.
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Bishonen- Since your hanging on my every last word, that was a mistake. I meant to write was " You cant comment on what an effective dose is, unless you have taken it. My point being that LaviathanX is talking out of his ass w/ his reccomendations because he has never used it so therefore pocces's no real world application.
Hes going on the word of someone else on a message board who is probally doing the same.
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Say you take a dose of ECA, and forgot you took it, so you take another. No big deal, you'll just be really jittery. But if you take a dose of DNP and forgot you took it and took another dose, you will definitely have some serious problems and no doubt end up in the hospital.
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Another classic example of you not knowing what your talking about. First and formost, if you cant keep track of how many caps you take, you shouldnt be using it all. Second if someone is using in the vicinity of 400-600mgs, mistakingly taking another cap will not send you to the ER.
I'll explain. If someone wasnt expierancing real discomfort (sweats,trouble breathing,stinky farts and lethargy) and by accident forgot he took a cap and used 200mgs more of what he was using, he will not end up in the hospital. Now if sides are evident and your sweating your ass off, first and formost i think you will be damn sure to know how much your using and will not mistakingly be taking more...
I really hope no one gets the impression that i think DNP cant be harmful. Thats not my point at all. My point is someone shouldnt be throwing around half ass info on a topic they know nothing about from and expierance standpoint.
Either you're dead, or you have first-hand clinical experience just from taking DNP. That doesn't follow.
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My thoughts exactly, bishonen. If I took a lethal dose, then I can't exactly speak from experience.
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Bishonen- Since your hanging on my every last word, that was a mistake. I meant to write was " You cant comment on what an effective dose is, unless you have taken it. My point being that LaviathanX is talking out of his ass w/ his reccomendations because he has never used it so therefore pocces's no real world application.
Hes going on the word of someone else on a message board who is probally doing the same.
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Say you take a dose of ECA, and forgot you took it, so you take another. No big deal, you'll just be really jittery. But if you take a dose of DNP and forgot you took it and took another dose, you will definitely have some serious problems and no doubt end up in the hospital.
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Another classic example of you not knowing what your talking about. First and formost, if you cant keep track of how many caps you take, you shouldnt be using it all. Second if someone is using in the vicinity of 400-600mgs, mistakingly taking another cap will not send you to the ER.
I'll explain. If someone wasnt expierancing real discomfort (sweats,trouble breathing,stinky farts and lethargy) and by accident forgot he took a cap and used 200mgs more of what he was using, he will not end up in the hospital. Now if sides are evident and your sweating your ass off, first and formost i think you will be damn sure to know how much your using and will not mistakingly be taking more...
I really hope no one gets the impression that i think DNP cant be harmful. Thats not my point at all. My point is someone shouldnt be throwing around half ass info on a topic they know nothing about from and expierance standpoint.
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