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I thought the article was quite thought provoking. But that being said, I agree with mekannik and muskateer about our 'ancestors'. Equating neadrethals from 100K years ago to us now is like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, they are both fruit, but that's about where it ends. Yes we have some similarities as those ancestors, due to how we've evolved (I hate that word), but that where it ends. Everyone is not the same and won't respond the same to the same stimulus.
 
Empty Wallet, sorry for the delayed response.

What I meant was you wouldn't want to eat something like Meatloaf, mashed potatos, etc before a workout, you'll probably get sick, plus your body wastes energy digesting it.....something easily digestable like a banana or a pb sandwich, things like that are what I eat, maybe some oatmeal........
 
hell, I can smell the roids coming out of that dude's pores through my monitor!! k, not so much =//

about eating 3x a day I agree, I don't think it's too valuable for bodybuilders to increase their metabolism. on the other hand, I do agree its very useful to burn fat and keep lean body mass

he states that people should do their workouts in famine (ie. in the morning after you wakeup) and that people shouldn't ingest carb + prot after a workout because that screws up the GH levels and it increases insulin levels. I found that a weird statement (although it's a very controversial topic) and went after something to backup my lack of trust in this "doctor"

I'll post small parts of an article

Volek JS. Influence of nutrition on responses to resistance training.
[Journal Article] Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise.
36(4):689-96, 2004 Apr.

"Carbohydrate and protein intake significantly alters circulating
metabolites and the hormonal milieu (i.e., insulin, testosterone,
growth hormone, and cortisol), as well as the response of muscle
protein and glycogen balance."

and

"Infusion of amino acids or exogenous administration of amino acids
with or without carbohydrate stimulates protein synthesis after
exercise (2,4,45,59). Compared with placebo, carbohydrate intake (1 g
glucose·kg-1 body mass) immediately and 1 h after a bout of resistance
exercise resulted in higher plasma glucose and insulin, decreased
myofibrillar protein breakdown and urea nitrogen excretion, and
slightly increased fractional muscle protein synthetic rate (50).
These favorable effects of carbohydrate intake on protein balance were
achieved from a simple redistribution of the timing of the subject’s
habitual dietary energy intake. Consumption of both protein and
carbohydrate results in even greater effects on protein balance.
Protein synthesis was stimulated ~400% above preexercise values when a
protein and carbohydrate supplement (6 g essential amino acids and 35
g sucrose) was consumed 1 or 3 h after a bout of resistance exercise
(45). Consumption of this same protein and carbohydrate supplement
immediately before exercise resulted in increased amino acid delivery
to muscle and greater net muscle protein synthesis compared with
consumption of the supplement at various times after exercise (58).
These effects were evident in both men and women. In summary, there
appears to be an interaction between increased availability of amino
acids and increased insulin after exercise and the timing of
supplement ingestion (i.e., immediately before exercise) may be
important to maximize the anabolic response (58). Consumption of a
protein-carbohydrate supplement at times around exercise (i.e.,
immediately before and immediately after exercise) may provide the
ideal anabolic situation for muscle growth.

The amino acid composition is an important consideration when
examining the effects of protein feeding. Essential amino acids have
been shown to be primary regulators of muscle protein synthesis with
little contribution from nonessential amino acids (54,59,60). The
branched-chain amino acids, particularly leucine, appear to be the
most important stimulators of skeletal muscle protein synthesis (31).
Recent work indicates that it is the extracellular levels of essential
amino acids in the blood that regulate muscle protein synthesis as
opposed to intramuscular amino acids (8). Certain amino acids may also
regulate protein breakdown (30); however, these affects appear to be
less important in magnitude than those controlling protein synthesis
at physiological concentrations of amino acids."

and

"Supplying additional protein or amino acids may augment adaptations
to training but precise timing of protein intake may enhance the
response further. A recent study in elderly men investigated the
effect of timing of protein-carbohydrate supplementation on muscle
size and strength responses to 12 wk of resistance training (14). The
supplement (10 g protein, 7 g carbohydrate) was consumed immediately
or 2 h after each training session. The group who ingested the
supplement immediately after exercise had significantly greater
increases in (mean ± SEM) lean body mass (1.8 ± 0.7% vs -1.5 ± 0.7%),
muscle fiber area (22 ± 6% vs -5 ± 6%), and quadriceps femoris area (7
± 1% vs no change). These data indicate that altering the timing of
calories, without altering the amount consumed, can impact chronic
adaptation to training. Specifically, early intake of protein and
carbohydrate after a workout is more effective at increasing skeletal
muscle hypertrophy and lean body mass than a supplement consumed
later. These findings are in conflict with a study that showed no
differences in acute measures of protein balance when protein was
ingested 1 or 3 h after exercise in healthy young subjects (45). This
apparent discrepancy related to timing of protein ingestion highlights
the importance of linking acute studies that measure protein kinetics
to long-term training studies that assess outcome measures related to
muscle size."
 
necr0potenc3 said:
hell, I can smell the roids coming out of that dude's pores through my monitor!! k, not so much =//
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You said it, lol.

Excellent post though. I find the best way to solve a controversial training issue is just to experiment on yourself. Over the past 13 years, I lifted weights on an empty stomach once .....it was the worst workout of my life and I never did it again.

I can't obviously post something like I just said to back me up.....so thanks for digging up the science.

If anybody doesn't believe what you posted, give the Doctor's training and nutrition advice a try......don't use Gh and Test, and see how crappy your workouts are.
 
musketeer said:
AFter all the criticism though, I would like to think that I'll be that well off at 70!

Yeah, respect does need to be given where it is due. For any age, the guy looks phenomenal.
 
I believe he is right that the body adapts to whatever you use it for (train). He is obviously extremely active all the time and his body shows it. It's great to hear there is another prime example, other than Jack LaLane, of someone taking excellent fitness into their 70's.

Very cool.
 
delphiOne said:
I believe he is right that the body adapts to whatever you use it for (train). He is obviously extremely active all the time and his body shows it. It's great to hear there is another prime example, other than Jack LaLane, of someone taking excellent fitness into their 70's.

Very cool.

Although Jack LaLane would tell you he owes it all to juicing :p
 
BiggT said:
Empty Wallet, sorry for the delayed response.

What I meant was you wouldn't want to eat something like Meatloaf, mashed potatos, etc before a workout, you'll probably get sick, plus your body wastes energy digesting it.....something easily digestable like a banana or a pb sandwich, things like that are what I eat, maybe some oatmeal........

Ah it's cool man don't worry about. Thanks for the clarifycation!
 
some great points in there.. but yeah they didn't live very long in cave man days... so I think there is some good things to follow but the diet is a very personal thing.. what works for one person may not work for another... so I dont think he should be so close minded about that subject...

but great read thank you for the link!!
 
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